Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 3141770)

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Originally Posted by Joveen (Post 3141771)

Me and you in the same boat. I would take the 10 series. Has the same features as the BRZ limited. Best bet is go 2014 or 2015 this platform. Most kinks have been addressed. GLWP can't wait to get myself one too.

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Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141778)

This may sound whiny for some but I'm not a fan of the Scion logo at all and I like the center stack switches in the BRZ so much better haha. It's a tough call. I've been finding a couple one-owner 2013 Limited examples in the high 80k mile range, I would assume these cars are reliable

Originally Posted by Xxyion (Post 3141776)

Try private party. Dealers seem to love to add some markup.

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141778)

This may sound whiny for some but I'm not a fan of the Scion logo at all and I like the center stack switches in the BRZ so much better haha. It's a tough call. I've been finding a couple one-owner 2013 Limited examples in the high 80k mile range, I would assume these cars are reliable

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3141779)

get the lowest mileage and newest build date for sure..

it is very easy to swap out the front bumper/headlights if you really like the BRZ look versus the FRS/86...ya probably can find someone in the opposite situation ^^

you can try to talk down a dealership and it might be possible considering we are heading into the winter months so they probably don't wanna be holding onto it for very long.

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3141783)

10 series has same center stack dual zone AC setup as the BRZ..

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141784)

Good point. Honestly, as far as outside goes, I'd be happy just doing the Toyota badge swaps. Its the interior I wish I could BRZ-ify better. Wish I could find a monogram in my price range hahaha

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141785)

I thought the 10 series still had the 3 knobs instead of all the cool switches and stuff in the BRZ?

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141791)

Do I need to avoid 2013 model years altogether?

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3141797)

nope, 10 series came with the nicer HVAC system & controls like the Monograms...so really the only things you need to replace in the interior if you don't want to see a Scion logo are the steering wheel (easy swap either if you want an aftermarket wheel or the factory BRZ one, there's always someone selling theirs) and the little plastic cover above the glovebox since it illuminates "SCION"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJaItki3Q1c

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3141797)

nope, 10 series came with the nicer HVAC system & controls like the Monograms...so really the only things you need to replace in the interior if you don't want to see a Scion logo are the steering wheel (easy swap either if you want an aftermarket wheel or the factory BRZ one, there's always someone selling theirs) and the little plastic cover above the glovebox since it illuminates "SCION"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJaItki3Q1c



no, most likely you won't run into too many things but it is still preferable to avoid as it is after all the very first build year...I didn't have any complaints with my '13 but my '16 definitely seemed better put together, no rattles or quirks that I had with the '13.

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141767)

Hello! I've chosen the 86 platform for my next daily car after my 300k mile 2001 Accord finally gave out on me. My budget right now is around 13k, and ideally I want a 2013 BRZ Limited with a manual transmission. Those, I can find with around 80-90k on them.

However, I can also find 10 series FRSs with a manual with like 50k on them for about the same price. I prefer the Subaru, and thats what I've been lusting over for the longest time, but should I put aside my preferences and go with the FRS?

I'll be driving the car on almost strictly highways to class during the week and spirited driving on the weekends. No track days or anything.

I'm also assuming I won't be able to talk a dealer down from $14k (around 60k miles on those) or so to 13k on a BRZ Limited. Am I wrong?

PS: I had posted this in the 86 General forum and was redirected here for more Subaru-specific feedback, I'm new here. Also, I have an old truck I can drive in the mean time but I'm lookin to buy an 86 car within a month or so

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141808)

Gotcha. I'll definitely look for 2014+ if I can but I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be making a huge mistake by going with a 2013 in either car if it had the lowest miles and seemed like the better buy

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ (Post 3141824)

We can’t tell you what kind of deal that any given dealership or individual would be willing to give you... all that you can do is show up and start negotiating and don’t seem too eager to buy the car. In most cases, it should be easy to negotiate a grand off of a $14k car.





I prefer the BRZ as well, but if I were shopping used in the low price range that you are looking at, I would buy the lowest mileage, newest year model car in the best condition that I could find. If you buy one with less than 60k miles and under 5 years old... you would even have some factory drivetrain warranty left. The twins are reliable cars in general... BUT many have been owned by young drivers who have modded and beat the piss out of them and then put them back to stock when it is time to trade in or sell the car. As mentioned, the 13s had some bugs that were later addressed, as is often the case with the first year model of any car. There are no guarantees when you buy a used car with no warranty remaining, it could break the day that you buy it.

Originally Posted by Xxyion (Post 3141776)

Try private party. Dealers seem to love to add some markup.

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141781)

Ideally I'd rather do private and just get a PPI. What sucks is I live in Southern Indiana and a 500 mile radius doesnt bring up a whole lot of options for me in my price range. I may have to plan out a trip hahaha

Originally Posted by Chuckls (Post 3141830)

What part of SoIN? Im in SoIN. Louisville / Charlestown.

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3141829)

Hmmmm that is very odd that they would actually want to turn a profit in their business. I guess you work for free?

Originally Posted by RyMi (Post 3141791)

Do I need to avoid 2013 model years altogether?

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3141829)

Hmmmm that is very odd that they would actually want to turn a profit in their business. I guess you work for free?

Originally Posted by Joveen (Post 3149773)

I need help. The genesis coupe is really hugging my mind but I also want a brz. Sigh.....

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3149778)

Have you driven both?

Originally Posted by Joveen (Post 3149781)

Only the brz.

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Originally Posted by Joveen (Post 3149773)

I need help. The genesis coupe is really hugging my mind but I also want a brz. Sigh.....

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3149787)

I test drove both new in 2013. The Genesis (Rspec) had a whole lot more torque, yes, but it just was meh everywhere else.
For example:
First time I sat in my FRS (yes, I bought the one I test drove lol) it felt engaging and special. And that was before I turned the key. The Genesis felt like every single other borimg car I'd ever driven. If you can swing it, try them out back to back.

Originally Posted by Xxyion (Post 3150053)

One of my best friends own the Genesis Coupe. Its a good car and with decent power. I prefer the BRZ as an all around drivers car.

The Genesis feels more...refined. Like theres less road noise, the interior feels cushier, and the ride feels smoother.

But with all that I felt less connection to the road.

The BRZ is more raw, you hear more road noise, the transmission has more feedback and you feel like you are wrangling a beast when you are putting it through its paces.


Both are great cars dont get me wrong, its just what you want out of your driving experience.

Originally Posted by Xxyion (Post 3150053)

One of my best friends own the Genesis Coupe. Its a good car and with decent power. I prefer the BRZ as an all around drivers car.

The Genesis feels more...refined. Like theres less road noise, the interior feels cushier, and the ride feels smoother.

But with all that I felt less connection to the road.

The BRZ is more raw, you hear more road noise, the transmission has more feedback and you feel like you are wrangling a beast when you are putting it through its paces.


Both are great cars dont get me wrong, its just what you want out of your driving experience.

Originally Posted by alphasaur (Post 3150619)

Ive driven the genesis 2.0t, I was not impressed from a power stand point. The handling and everything else felt sort of meh.

Originally Posted by Joveen (Post 3150627)

Bk1 or bk2?

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