New 86
 

Hi forum


Thought I'd introduce myself as I just bought a 2019 toyota 86 gt asphalt manual on Monday. Already got TRD springs and sway bars on there (car really should just come that way). Would have ordered it with them if they had let me order one.



I don't plan to do a lot of modifications, but do plan to drive it excessively and smiling a lot. Occasional autox.



This is my 44th car :) 1st Toyota and/or Subaru though.
Thinking about naming her Chihiro, but not fully decided yet.



David

Hi xdavidx and welcome to the forum - :clap:

Congratulations on your new purchase.

I don't care that you have had 44 other cars - stay further back from parking stops than you ever have had to before.

Everything else you need to know about this car is in the owners manual or maintenance schedule - ;)


humfrz

I can tell from looking at how low and long that front bumper is, this is the best advice to a new 86 owner :) Thanks

Especially true with the TRD springs. Even speedbumps will be your enemy now in some cases. Angled approaches will help avoid any scraping ;)

Welcome and enjoy your new ride, they are a blast!

Thanks. Luckily, I live in southern california where roads are pretty clear and flat and no winters/pot holes to deal with. Sometimes people complain about the roads here and being from NYC I laugh pretty hard when they do. So many lowered cars and exotics around here, that I think they make speed bumps a bit lower and flatter.

Took my car to NYC to visit some friends was a shit show on the bad streets. Avoided as much as I could and still ended up scraping in a parking garage :bonk:

So, seeing the car a bit lower I feel like the wheels especially in the rear are a bit too inset looking now. I guess this is how it happens with these cars... Thinking maybe the TRD forged wheels might help... Pretty inexpensive for forged wheels and I can pretend those are stock, but they aren't much wider or lighter so won't get a performance gain for the money... Pretty sure this has all been rehashed on here a million times by now eh?

Inexpensive?! I thought TRD SF-2 forged wheels aren't officially available in North America and are like $3k USD a set through side channels. When the stock tires are worn, I'm thinking about putting snow tires on the stock wheels and add a set of summer tires on 18" forged wheels. Highly unlikely those will be SF-2 though.

Anyway, I have TRD lowering strings and sway bars as well. This video on low car rituals might be of interest:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y2J2y9OeZc[/ame]


For potholes, just keep an eye on where you're going. If you can see them on the ground, you can usually dodge them. If you can't see the ground ahead because you're following somebody, just watch for the guy in front bobbing up and down, SUVs are especially bad for that. Then you know the hole's there. If you have to brake hard for a big one, don't forget to ease off to take the weight off the front before you hit. For my regular routes, I know where almost all the significant potholes are by heart. If a route is really beaten up, I just make up some excuses and tell my wife I'm taking her Corolla :)

For speed bumps, cut them at a constant angle as per the video. That isn't always possible though. There is a camera store in Toronto that has parking lot in a courtyard area only accessible through a narrow passageway with a pair of really high and sudden speed bumps. And the passageway forces you to take them head on. The only solution there was to complain to management. "Oh, they don't cause any problem for the owner's Porsche." :sigh:

And for parking, the back up camera allows you to see what's on the groud so backing in is much preferred. I almost never go head first these days.

Maybe the TRD stuff is different in Canada? They sell a set of 17x7.5" matte grey TRD forged wheels as a standard option/dealer installed option for msrp $375/wheel here in the US.


Video has some good tips, but so far the 1 inch drop from the trd springs hasn't been causing me to alter my driving habits any. I've always had sports cars though that are often pretty low. Had a stock height bmw M235i before this and the lowered 86 actually seems easier to manage. That car would actually get stuck on occasion coming into my driveway because it didn't have a limited split dif and the dip/angle would cause one rear wheel to lift and therefore spin freely while the other didn't move.

Why did you replace the springs on a brand new car?
Do you have an engineering degree?

He doesn't need one. Toyota made them, RS1.0 had them factory. It's more of an upgrade than a mod.

Congratulations! Be sure to look at some hood struts, and removing the gas cap leash. Best mods for any new car in my opinion :) most of all, enjoy it and be proud!
Be wary that while springs and sways reduce body roll, body roll is a good tell for how close to the edge you are, hopefully some of those 44 cars have had similar handling mods! Some body roll is a safety net :)

Congrats on the purchase, I order a new 2018 gt black, took from may to August 31 to receive, I ordered it with trd drop springs, but the wait was so long I bought tien z flex ciolovers, when the car came in I did drive it a week before installing ciolovers, the trds was very hard ride, the ciolovers, wow, much better, and dealer installed, " It's a 86 thing " have fun, stay low.

Yes, the very first mods I ever did were to myself. I've been to about 8 different driving/racing schools and have done autox/track days now for 22 years in cars ranging from a stock 80s honda civic to modern 911 GTS. Once I got my human driving skills mods wrapped up, I decided I was ready for a set of springs and sway bars on an 86 :)

Yes, this. TRD stuff is all factory options. More of a 'sport suspension' option than a mod. I would have just ordered it that way, but the wait was going to be too long. You can also get it as a dealer installed accessory. All warrantied the same as the car and won't void the cars factory warranty. I also was able to get it cheaper than had I ordered it compliments of a very nice employee at Longo Toyota.

Haha excellent. The 86 crowd sometimes can be awful young, so we tend to give general advice as we were speaking with our kids.

Gas cap leash?! Why?

In my opinion, the leash just promotes the gas cap hitting the fender if the gas door shakes and the cap falls off. Maybe I'm the only one that feels safer with it in my hand than attached to the car?!:bonk:

I think it's just you lol.

The cap sits pretty securely into the door when opened and the leash is long enough that the cap will hang below the fender anyway if it fell?

Definitely just you. :D

But I do kinda miss those unsecured twist-off gas caps from the first generation Celica coupes. I always felt like there was some cool value there.

You're not using the gas cap correctly.
Take a closer look at the door flap
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/brz/brz16-gas-door2.jpg

I don't want to get off topic, I know how it works, I just never liked them.

I am unfortunately getting a bit too experienced (6 months from 40). What I would give to be young and ignorant again.


Some might think this a mid life crisis car for a guy about to turn 40, but given most of the cars I'd had before this one is comparably very responsible :) Wisdom has finally taught me that expensive + fast does not equal happy + fun.



people here really are defensive/protective of their gas cap leashes eh? :paddle:

Really? You told someone to cut it off as a first mod......

Well, ya. My 2 year old granddaughter can't pass by ma-ma's car without "checking the mail". At least with the leash, I know the gas cap isn't far off.

Maybe she is - huffing .. - :confused0068:


humfrz

Congrats! Where are the pictures? Any other mods planned?

I'll put up some pictures after I give it the new car clay bar / paint sealant treatment this weekend. For now, imagine a stock asphalt 86, then reduce the height by 1 inch.


I'm going to try to avoid modifying it as best I can, but it's clear after driving it a few hundred miles that this car was designed to be a platform for doing so. The main draw to me for this car was fun/dollar with fun/reliability secondary. I think simply better tires would have the biggest results in terms of additional fun/dollar.


It is pretty tempting though to replace the wheels and some basic stereo stuff. If so, I'd want to keep the appearance as stock as possible. Wheels, I like the 17" forged TRD wheels or maybe BBS if I could find a good set at a reasonable price. Carbon car systems in australia sells a flush mounting/full screen kenwood stereo that's plug and play and adds android auto and phone screen mirroring, but is about $1k once wiring harness and shipping is done. Wouldn't help the sound any though since it would still go through the stock amp, so hard to justify spending $1k on just android auto and a pretty screen. I did check with a local stereo shop and they quoted about $650 to replace speakers and amp with some basic focals. If there was a factory optioned premium stereo for $1,650 I probably would have opted for it. We will see how well I can hold out and not buy these things.

Wait....

So you don't like the gas cap leash cuz it just allows the gas cap to just dangle and flop against the fender...
but on the fuel door there is a gas cap holder to hold the gas cap.....
but you don't like it so you refuse to use it and let the cap flop and dangle against the fender...
so your solution is to cut off the gas cap leash and hold the gas cap in your hand (or however you want to hold it...or you might even put it in the gas cap holder sans leash), and you are telling this owner to follow your lead on a mod that creates a new problem to a problem that doesn't exist?


I do not get it.....

Scotty Kilmer is that you?

Weight reduction YO

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b3&oe=5C207E18

I have the TRD wheels on my car and love them. Much better looking than any of the other factory wheel options, with the Series.Blue STI wheels being the only other ones that actually look good IMO. And agreed, a smoking deal for a set of forged wheels.

Haha goodness.

When I had my leash on the gas cap, the wind has blown the gas door into the nozzle, and the gas cap fell out of its holster. Were it not attached to the leash, the cap would have careened to the ground without hitting the car. Instead, due to the leash, it hit the fender. To prevent this from happening in the future, I cut the gas cap leash. Now, when I take the gas cap off, I set it in the holster in the fuel door, and do not have to worry about this happening again.

I'll admit, I never expected so many people on this forum to not understand this concept. And I definitely didn't expect so many replies to my comment. OP, disregard my advice, I hereby sentence myself to being silenced for voicing my opinion on a modification I thought was worthwhile in protecting the fender.

I will not be responding to any more comments on this subject, this is really off topic and getting to be nonsense. I apologize for suggesting a mod I thought was worth while. :clap:

Totally not your fault here. It's been pretty silly how many people have focused negatively on this suggestion and as the OP, I have to defend you sharing your experiences and opinion within this thread. Gotta admit, taking a critical look at that gas cap leash I am not really seeing the benefits outweighing the annoyance either. You should start a new thread called 'Free Mod - Gas Cap Leash Delete', say how to do it and the benefits, then say nothing more and just see where that goes :)

Was nonsense to start with. Please show us the repair bill for the damage caused by the cap hitting the car.

Yea, I've had the car for 3 years+ now, and have had it through all sorts of windy and bad weather while filling it with 93 or e85. Have yet to have a problem where the wind causes the fuel door to shut onto the pump making the cap fall out.

That is an impressive gas cap. Just.... wow.

Yes, the 17x7.5 TRD is PTR2018160GR which is completely different from the 18" SF-2, which costs like twice as much as the former.

I visited a friend yesterday to get a loose side marker fixed and had a chat about wheels afterwards. At the value end, he suggested Enkei RPF1. It's available in much wider range of sizes and colors, and costs a little less for equivalent size. It's made with a hybrid process that isn't totally forging but still lighter than the 17" forged TRD by a non-trivial degree.

And the 18" TRD is totally out of the question, forged magnesium is already attainable at that kind of price.

Welcome to the family,

My only advice, is leave your car the way it is. The car on TRD springs and sways is the best and at it's most simplistic characteristics. Just drive it, don't garage it.

Go down the rabbit hole later on down the road, and I mean....LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD!

I'm amazed this is your 44th car .. and your 1st toyota/subaru ...
I don't even think I could list 10 cars in this budget range that I would bother purchasing before the twins

Combination of two things...

1) I am old and most of the cars I've had were before these things even existed
2) I've not really bought cars based on a budget range for some time, I tend to just get a car based on what I need/want at the time and what it seems worth to me at the time



A few of the cars I've owned (not in order of ownership):
1974 bmw 2002 race car

1974 bmw 2002 non race car
1976 triumph tr6

1987 Honda Civic (first car, saved up my entire childhood for this one)

1984 vw rabbit race car
1984 porsche 911sc

1991 ford escort
1994 jeep wrangler
1997 honda civic
2001 vw jetta
2003 audi a4
2005 honda s2000

2005 bmw z4
2005 bmw m3
2005 bmw m3 convertible
2005 bmw 330ci zhp
2007 ford escape

2008 bmw 335i coupe

2011 bmw 328xi
2011 porsche boxster rs60 spyder
2014 bmw m235i

2015 lexus is350 fsport
2019 toyota 86 :)



Now that I say that, I just realized... lexus is a toyota so I guess I lied.