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I don't understand why hoodshocks won't work on my car and could use some input. I have a 2013 frs in ultramarine. I've gone through two sets of 86Speed hoodshocks and two sets of Grimmspeed hoodshocks, none of which will hold up my OEM hood. I'm at a loss and don't get it. Are there different factory hoods and mine weighs more or something? They have been installed correctly. Is there something i'm missing?

Hello womachris and welcome to our forum ..:clap:

It's my understanding that all the 2013 FR-S hoods weigh about the same.

So, if the hood struts don't work, I figure either you got a batch of bad ones (unlikely) or they aren't the right ones for your car, or they are being installed improperly (most likely).

You may wish to look this over and check your work.

http://www.grimmspeed.com/content/in...ne_version.pdf

I hope you get em to work.



humfrz

Hi Humfrz, thank you.

Yeah, i watched the video a couple times before install. Double checked afterward as well. Installed correctly, but i had to turn the socket ends to
line up as well as doing them one at a time so one would compress before the other. Those are the only things i could think of that might affect performance.
Grimmspeed responded today and they think it might be the hood weight, which i'm leaning to as well. Highly unlikely that four different sets would be bad. I'll mess with them a little bit and see if i can figure something out.

Thank you for the input. Have a good one.

i have a pair of grimmspeed struts i used on my 15 frs and now are on my 18 86. shoot me a pm and we'll see if we can solve the issue.:bonk:

I don't have the Grimmspeed struts, but I just installed the Rexpeed ones from Here. They hold up my 2013 hood no problem. You have a pic of yours installed?

What's with the PMs? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the forum?

We'll solve it and keep it our little secret.

Shhhh... ;)

:slap: …. no secret solutions allowed …(unless I get a broker fee)..:D


humfrz

I suggest you post some pictures, maybe someone can "see" something ..:iono:

PS - I just viewed the video. Are you really-really sure you bolted the brackets into the proper holes and the struts aren't put on upside down - sorry, I just had to ask … :sigh:


humfrz

I've got my GrimmSpeed hood struts 3 years now and still going strong - though they have accumulated some minor surface rust on the nuts... but nevertheless they still HOLD strong.


Now, judging by the lack or response and pictures I am just going to assume it's either a defective product OR user installation error.


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I have a 13 FRS and I put grimspeed hood struts on and they work great. Holds the hood more open than oem prop rod.

Something is up for sure because mine are great. Can you post some images of your engine bay w the struts?

i'm local to OP

;)

:evil:
lol

mine are also about 3 years old and have been through this weird VA weather. they're still going strong. i'm about to pull them off and treat/coat the hardware so it looks better and lasts longer, just waiting on the PBA touch-up paint to become available.

That was fun. :D

Yep, but I still want to see the movie … :popcorn:


humfrz

Trying to upload pictures. I’ll get them on here as soon as I figure it out.

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I don't see anything wrong in the images. Just so I understand the issue, if you lift your hood to about the same height as the oem proprod holds it, does the hood just fall shut again without any resistance?

If you lift it higher then does it hold the hood up or have any more resistance against closing?

Whatever position I lift it to it just drops all the way with no resistance.

hmmm....if the shock/strut is OFF the car and you work it, does it give resistance..??

Do you have both struts mounted with the fat part up..??


humfrz

Was this car ever in an accident and had the hood replaced with an non-OEM hood that happens to be made out of steel rather than aluminum?
I'm not even sure if there are third parties that even make a steel equivalent of the stock hood. Just trying to guess since that installation seems correct.

An answer to the bold question would be helpful.

^^^^^ This is the same info I've been waiting on. I don't know if you've had a chance to reply to my sales guy but I had asked if when you unbolt the hood from the hinges do they move freely?

And then my next question was the same about the car being in an accident that may have damaged something, because that hood isn't the same color as the rest of the car. Knowing more about that would certainly help solve this problem.

And the final question I had was about any additional dynamat or anything that would weigh the hood down. To my knowledge there are no steel replacement hoods, but some sort of straight weight modification to the hood was my final thing to look at (which involves weighing the hood, I even provided a target weight).

So trust me, I've been trying to figure this out from day 1, but I haven't got any information back. Seeing the thread and knowing that the car has gone through 4 different sets of hood struts and seeing a different color hood on the car is a clear indicator to me that we need to look elsewhere than the hood struts themselves.

Chase
Engineering

OK @womachris it's your move.

We can't help you without feedback … ;)


humfrz

The struts are both mounted the same. When off the car i can compress them without tremendous effort and they decompress on their own. I've been in contact with Muchee at Grimmspeed and we both think the issue is with the hood. It hasn't been in a wreck that i'm aware of. The hood has the Subaru stamping. The color matches the rest of the car except in direct sunlight it looks purple. I don't know if its supposed to be that way or the former owner had something done. Grimmspeed wants me to weigh the hood. That will be my next step when i get a chance.

@GrimmSpeed I haven't had a chance to take the hood off to check the hinges yet. I will check them when i take it off to weigh it.

@Joon525 I ride a skateboard too. Like the Per Welinder pic.

@GrimSPEED No additional dynamat that i'm aware of. Looks the same as pictures and videos iv'e seen. I'm planning on taking it off to see if the weight reduction does anything.

:popcorn:


humfrz

Hi Chase @GrimmSpeed, quick question... Are the nuts holding the struts supposed to rust? It looks like those are the only thing that's rusting on my unit and I don't even winter drive this car...

Sorry OP for hi-jacking the thread.

The suspense is killing me. How much does the purple hood weigh?

I'm still thinking it's going to be something with the hinges, but we'll see!

Are they supposed to rust? No. Can they? Yes. Neither the nut nor the ball stud are stainless so its surprising that the nut has rusted but the ball stud hasn't as they are both clear zinc coated. If you wanted to grab a replacement or a stainless nut locally they're 5/16-18.

Chase
Engineering

While we are waiting, why don't you take the hood off your car and weigh it … then we will have a basis of comparison .. :thumbsup:

:D


humfrz

@womachris , while we are waiting, I suggest you take and post some pictures of your struts as they are mounted so we can see both the top and bottom mounts. A picture of each side would be good.


humfrz

Now THAT was a nice response. If it were me, I would just have :slap: ol @DaJo ….:D


humfrz

Sorry everyone, it will be a little while before i am able to weigh the hood. I don't have the time or ability right now. I'm getting sent out of town for work for a month. Will post as soon as i am able. Thanks for all the questions and thoughts.

same here lol. i wish i could bring my 86 with me, but fuck these so cal dust storms...

Well, OK, but what about the pictures I ask for up above, before you go out of town ..:)


humfrz

You could disconnect the struts and use a fish scale to measure the weight at the front of the hood in up/down positions.
Any of us without struts can do the same very easily.
An other question I did not see an answer for is did they all work for a while then fail or not work from the start?

Have you tried sticking a magnet on the hood to see if it is steel?

WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!