Velox Camber Plates Clunking noise
 

Does any with similar suspension set like mine Ohlins and Velox camber plates clunking noise over bumps?

Just to confirmed that it is not the coilovers that making the noise. With the stock top mount it does not make the noise.

Been disassemble and reassemble numerous of times to figure the issue but could not understand why the camber plates is making that noise.

My suspecting is the spherical bearings are the fault but this plates are brand new and does not even have more the 100km on it.

If anyone having the same issue please share.

Thank You.

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Yup that sounds like a bad spherical bearing. The bearing itself is moving vertically in its housing by mere mms but it makes a ton of noise.

My camber plates lasted 80k miles before failure, so if you don’t have have 60 miles on them I’d send them back.

I contact ft86speedfactory but they said they can't see any movement to the bearings so they can't do warranty on it :bonk: . It's just sad cause that plates are brand new and the bearings already failed on it. Your camber plate is velox as well?

The bearings will only move 1mm when failed so that makes sense they don’t see it, doesn’t make sense with them judging the condition based on that.

I had HVT camber plates. The bearings were $30 each.

Rule out the swaybar endlinks being loose before spending money imho but it's probably one of the two.

Have you verified that the nut on the top of the shock shaft is fully and properly torqued? In my opinion it’s highly unlikely that the bearing has failed on an virtually new piece, but if the nut is not properly toqued and you continue to drive on it you will damage it.

This video may give you some insight:

https://youtu.be/2bab6x47CSs

You're welcome to send them back to us so we can look at them but they are the same bearings we have used for the entire life of this product. We have not been engraving the camber plates "Velox" for at least 9 months as well. Diagnosing the noise or what is happening through youtube videos is impossible.

The camber plates are very simple parts; there is not much to make noise. Keep in mind with the OEM top hat, the rubber isolates and damps a lot of noise that could have already been there; but does not make its way to the cabin as the connection is not solid. When you swap to something that is solid aluminum with no compliance spherical bearings, noises are translated to the chassis significantly more.

Feel free to e-mail us if you want to take us up on the offer of sending them back to us. We'll check the bearings for movement and we can install brand new bearings if you'd like.

Thanks,
Eric

I have a set of MP20's with what appear to be MSI camber plates that were pre-installed on the struts when I bought the units. They were 6 months old and lightly used.

I get a lot of clunk, especially on the driver side.

My suspicion is I will probably need to replace bushings in the top mounts to fixs this but I won't mess with that stuff until the car is off the road for winter. Some play between ball and bushings. So long as it isnt unsafe or affect performance I will live with it. Also get creaking in same area sometimes when I turn steering wheel far to one side and or go over really steep grades or bumps. Probably bushings on spherical bearing can be replaced.

That's the first thing I did when I heard the noise. I removed the sway links out completely. Noise still there.

Here’s what my bearings sounded like when they started making noise dude to axial play in the spherical bearings:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c6kAdF...ature=youtu.be

Rare collectibles.

Thanks for posting your video, what I will do is put the camber plates to my stock shocks and see if the noise is still there.

Hey Eric, thanks for the support. I live in Canada so sending it back and forth will takes to much time. Ft86speedfactory email me the bearing part number so I will get another set and replace it.

Do those bearings have to be pressed in? If so, I doubt you've got the tools at home to remove and replace the bearing.

Yes it has to be pressed out and in. It has a circular clip holding the bearing in place at the bottom. I own a repair shop, so fortunately I have the tools to get the get the job done.

Ah, yeah... you'll be fine then!

We've also seen a lot of improper installs of camber plates on these cars, often people forgetting to put a support washer or lower bushing under the bearing (between camber plate and upper spring perch. Not saying that's the case here, but it happens.

- Andrew

Let us know if you have any questions. Sales@verus-engineering.com

Andrew,

We've seen the same thing a handful of times.

Eric

spherical bearings make noise. That's part of why the oem's use rubber to keep things quiet.

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Aside from a few minor issues (upper spring perch rub on plate, loose top nut [user error on that one], and the occasional spring pop that went away) my camber plates have been perfect, almost imperceptible impact to NVH when swapping onto stock suspension (no confusion with the impact of installing coilovers and linear springs) and for the nearly 40k miles since (including a new set of coilovers, several spring swaps, track, autox, and shitty roads).


Maybe I got a set that was perfectly in tolerance :iono: but for this car I'd be disappointed with any camber plate that a passenger could notice. Not trying to trash anybodies brand, nor hawk any wares, I've talked to a few people not as lucky with the same camber plates that I have who couldn't tolerate them.


I'll be swapping suspension soon, it'll be interesting to try a different plate, but if they're noisy, my old ones will go back on or I'll buy a new set of the same brand.

My experience with plates (not Velox's though) on stock shocks was way different NVH wise. Bad enough to uninstall them. Issues were noticeable by everybody in car, both me & passenger, and i even had to adjust driving style/paths when meeting those road imperfections that caused worst NVH issues/loud hits heard in cabin.

I had a clickity clack that was very reminiscent of a bad spherical bearing. I thought mine were bad (after being hit by a dump truck) so I bought new ones from Verus. In the accident, the strut was bent, the lower control arm was bent, the knuckle was broken, the ball joint broke in half, but the bearings in the strut hats were fine. I ultimately found the knock was coming from the swaybar endlinks.

Also, your video doesn't sound like a bad spherical bearing at all. When they're bad it is usually a clickity clack, and a loud slapping sound. (My Rx7 Track car would eat them in the rear lower control arms)

Any updates on your car? I have exactly the same issue with this camber plate and from Vancouver, BC as well.

I am planning to replace it with the group-N one as this is super annoying. Every expansion joint on oak street bridge, I can hear the clunk noise (that's like every 100m?)

I'd be interested to hear your noise as well. Mine seems to come and warm temperature seems to be when it happens.

Hi sorry, I have been busy with work and my go kart so I put my car on the side. I ordered up some coilover isolator to see if I could dampen down the noise.

I did all kind of combinations with the coilovers. Ohlins + velox top mount = no noise. Ohlins + oem top mount = noise. Velox + oem shocks = the noise also disappear but there's still that light clunking but very hard to tell. At this point Ohlins and velox is not a good combination.

With all those combinations that you have tried I wonder if it’s a bad end link.

Here is a quick update regarding about the noise. I replaced the bearings with a new set. One original bearing I can definitely move the inner race up and down from the other race with my fingers. So yes one bearing was faulty.