Do you ever get used to steering by wire,
 

I have about 3,000 miles in the car so far and still haven't gotten used to the lack of road feedback in the steering. Or is it there and I just don't feel it? I don't think so.

Not steering by wire. It is just an electric motor assist. Not really different from any power steering other than the power source.

I was under the impression that the 86 doesn't have steer by wire?

it is indeed there.

I don't believe there are any production steer by wire cars.

Oh, I feel the steering in my 2013 FR-S gives me just the right amount of road feedback ...... :iono:


humfrz

Drive by wire throttle.

Benefit, when you press the pedal half way down you are flooring it. Is that a benefit??

With Ecutek one of the features is that it usually defaults scale to a mechanical throttle feel, 50% is actually 50%. At first it felt like the car was slower, but on the track I could better appreciate how important is is to modulate the throttle. Same thing Cobb does with their Accessport.

Electric steering can be dead-feeling, but our car is better than many if not most systems I've encountered up to and including far more expensive cars.

If you feel like there is some feedback missing from the road, you can always grab some wider wheels/tires. I detect a lot more with my 17x9 summer setup vs. my winter setup on the OEM wheels.

This vehicle does not have steer by wire.
You are directly linked to the electric power steering rack through the steering input shaft.
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it is totally and completely against the rules to ever end any thread. Instead we take it far off topic and talk about random stuff just for entertainment. Seriously, most threads more than a page or two are way off topic the op brought up.

So, how about that YarisWorld? :lol:

That's totally untrue.

Oh, and I found a random sock in the laundry yesterday that is definitely not mine. What do you guys make of that?

pics or fake news

Tough crowd. I'll take a pic when I get home.

I got a new gun the other day.

Infiniti Q50

Just like a hydraulic rack the steering column is directly connected to the rack. It's just a motor that does the assist rather than hydraulics. Typically what gives a car a disconnected feeling is too much assist and/or soft bushings in the rack and suspension. The Twins have a fair bit of assist. I've replaced the rack bushing on past cars with solid bushings and it made a world of difference. I agree the Twins have a lack of feel. Not the worst but not on par with some other sports cars. I hope I don't get in trouble to being critical.

I have a really good metric for comparison of the electric steering vs. hydraulic. My other vehicle is an STI, which has exactly the same 13.2:1 turn ratio but being an STI, one of the unique features of STI's is that they still feature hydraulic assist. I'd say I like the steering equally. My only gripe is grip! The steering wheel on the FR-S after 6 years and 58,000 km didn't feel as grippy as I'd like on the track last weekend. It looks fine but the leather is pretty sealed from hand sweat and gets slippery. I wonder if there is an acceptable wrap?

Who needs feedback from the wheels?
https://media0.giphy.com/media/P5bZv1fQnqfqo/giphy.gif

The first thing I complained about when I got my 86 was the slippery steering wheel. Folks here told me it would get tackier, but after a year, it's still way too slick.

I found a gun in my sock today.

As per others the 86 is not steer by wire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive_...#Steer_by_wire

I find the difference negligible between this and a good hydraulic rack like in the NC Miata. It is worlds better than most hydraulic steering racks on the road today.

Infiniti Q50
Edit: Derp, too late, sorry for the repeated information.


Leather cleaner, I've got a bottle of leatherique and my car is in desperate need of re-application.

Leather shouldn't be slippery and shiny, that's dirt and skin oil sitting on top of the material that needs to be cleaned off.

Gonna do it now, but still wont be grippy enough...maybe I'll repaint the calipers while I'm at it. I somehow feel that wearing gloves to the track is too much for someone of my amateurness. LOL

How about a pair of gloves? I know it sounds silly but I got a pair for simracing because my wheel is suede and was destroying my hands. I ended up using the gloves at autox too and it helps a lot on hot Florida days.

OMG ewww!

Ask your SO about that .......:confused0068:


humfrz

Don't worry about it ....... till you find a pair of men's briefs, with the crotch all stretched out ......:(


humfrz

Is it electrically fired ......??


humfrz

Yes, but they didn't make very many with the electric steering ..... ;)


humfrz

No, but, your sentence structure sucks ...... :thumbdown:


humfrz

Was that your beat off sock .........??


humfrz

Didn't they go back to normal?

Maybe. I just read humfrz’s response which got me curios.

We have been down this pig path before.

Find a toddler in your neighborhood ...... place the child behind the steering wheel, give him/her an chocolate covered ice cream cone ...... wait 30 minutes ...... then wipe off the excess and let the steering wheel dry.


humfrz

Don't feed the trolls

Actually the answer was right there in Strat's Wiki link:

"The first production vehicle to implement this was the Infiniti Q50.,[5] but after negative comments they retrofitted the traditional hydraulic steering"

Check the source on the second part of that sentence ;)

The Q50 is still using steer by wire and it's usage was expanded to the q60.

https://www.infinitiusa.com/about/te...-steering.html
https://www.infinitiusa.com/vehicles.../features.html
https://www.infinitiusa.com/vehicles.../features.html

Thanks! Wasn't passionate enough of the topic to dig deeper.

Also wasn't sure which was why my original statement was "I don't believe..." and not "There are not any..."

Nsx (not the new) have EPS iirc