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-   -   I just want to turn the car off and still have the radio on, damnit man (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127180)

8RZ 04-25-2018 08:23 AM

I just want to turn the car off and still have the radio on, damnit man
 
As you guys with Limited trims know, one of the issues with push button ignitions in this car is you can’t turn it to accessory mode while the car is running. Usually I have to turn the car off, then press the push start once w/o pressing the clutch in and it takes a while for the radio to actually power on.

This method I just discovered makes it easier and quicker, just press the button twice and the car will shut down but stays in accessory mode.

HOWEVER, I have a Kenwood head unit so this may not work with stock radio. Can someone with stock head unit try this and see if it works on theirs?

https://youtu.be/FbLSEDHyHvs

Williampreza 04-25-2018 08:43 AM

Nupe..

https://youtu.be/Pf4sU1tnvmo

8RZ 04-25-2018 08:45 AM

Damn, ok thanks for confirming. I guess it will only work on some aftermarket radios.

This was one of my biggest pet peeves about this car lol.

extrashaky 04-25-2018 11:46 AM

First world problems.

Must've sat in the car for an hour trying to think of something original to whine about.

8RZ 04-25-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3077386)
First world problems.

Must've sat in the car for an hour trying to think of something original to whine about.

Nailed it.

Horrid_Funk 04-25-2018 11:52 AM

Idk, I'm with the OP. I prefer having the physical key start, but not enough to do anything about it :iono:

Tcoat 04-25-2018 12:09 PM

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If only there was some sort of document that came with the car or could be found online that would tell people how to do these things.


See #3 remember to not push clutch or brake while pushing button.

Stang70Fastback 04-25-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3077405)
If only there was some sort of document that came with the car or could be found online that would tell people how to do these things.

That doesn't actually resolve his issue. I get where he is coming from. Note the arrows on the document you posted. There is no way to get from 3 to 2 directly. You must go through 1 first, which shuts the radio off. It IS a bit irksome in those situations where you find yourself at your destination, and want to shut the car off for whatever reason, but want to continue listening to the radio (or having a conversation on the phone) without being interrupted.

So per the document, he is correct in being frustrated. I wish this car did what most do and kept the radio ON after shutting off the vehicle until you opened a door. It does this with the window buttons to allow you to close the window after you turn the car off until you open a door. It should have been extended to the radio. Plenty of Start/Stop button cars already do this; it isn't a limitation of having a Start/Stop system. It's all in the programming. Just something they didn't program for this car for whatever reason.

Tcoat 04-25-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 3077416)
That doesn't actually resolve his issue. I get where he is coming from. Note the arrows on the document you posted. There is no way to get from 3 to 2 directly. You must go through 1 first, which shuts the radio off. It IS a bit irksome in those situations where you find yourself at your destination, and want to shut the car off for whatever reason, but want to continue listening to the radio (or having a conversation on the phone) without being interrupted.

So per the document, he is correct in being frustrated. I wish this car did what most do and kept the radio ON after shutting off the vehicle until you opened a door. It does this with the window buttons to allow you to close the window after you turn the car off until you open a door. It should have been extended to the radio. Plenty of Start/Stop button cars already do this; it isn't a limitation of having a Start/Stop system. It's all in the programming. Just something they didn't program for this car for whatever reason.

Oh I see what you mean but turning it back on is like, all of 4 seconds of work. The wife's Impreza has the HU stay on until you open the door but it will time out after about 10 minutes. Wonder if there is a programmable setting someplace.
The windows only work for about 30 seconds even if you don't open the door. Or at least mine only last that long.

extrashaky 04-25-2018 12:44 PM

Just step on the brake and pop the clutch to stop the engine.

8RZ 04-25-2018 12:45 PM

Thanks, Stang.

A small issue, I know, but doesn't stop it from irking me.

Shame on you Tcoat for not reading my entire post lol.

Clutch 04-25-2018 12:49 PM

Tcoat never misses an opportunity to post pages straight from the manual :)

Stang70Fastback 04-25-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3077431)
Oh I see what you mean but turning it back on is like, all of 4 seconds of work.

Yeah, it's easy to hit the button twice, but the head unit then has to boot back up which takes longer than 4 seconds. And if you were talking on the phone when that happens, it will take even longer to reconnect to your phone.

To me this is the same kind of thing as the stupid passenger seat that won't latch in the slid-forward position. Like... okay... not the end of the world by any means, but one of those things you'd THINK would have annoyed the shit out of the testers responsible for logging endless hours of road-testing in mules prior to production.

8RZ 04-25-2018 12:51 PM

Lol yeah I should have added that I already RTFM!

paiceyfan 04-25-2018 03:45 PM

Be careful what you wish for...my wife's new Crosstrek leaves the radio on when the car is shutdown and switches it off as the door is opened, but the radio blares every time you get in the car and start it up...really annoying. Our dealer said it is the number one complaint right now with new purchases. Each to their own, I suppose.

8RZ 04-25-2018 04:09 PM

ALL my cars’ radios have done that so I thought that was normal. Besides, I’ve made it a habit to always lower the volume before turning the car off so it’s a non-issue.

Unless you mean the car raises the volume up afterwards?

ajcarson11 04-25-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3077442)
Just step on the brake and pop the clutch to stop the engine.

Haven't laughed this hard in a while. Just make sure you don't park too close to the curb otherwise you'll ram into it :lol:

8RZ 04-25-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ajcarson11 (Post 3077578)
Haven't laughed this hard in a while. Just make sure you don't park too close to the curb otherwise you'll ram into it :lol:

Lol not if you step on the brake.

Chimera 04-25-2018 04:30 PM

I have a key instead of push start, but couldn't this be resolved with a capacitor on the Switched/acc power to the head unit? for oem head unit folks that would prob require a harness wired inbetween which would be a bit of work I guess.

ajcarson11 04-25-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3077584)
Lol not if you step on the brake.

Fair point.. but I like the mental image of ramming the curb more.

I can't imagine it's great for the car to be stopped in this abrupt fashion -- Anyone have general thoughts?

paiceyfan 04-25-2018 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3077565)
ALL my cars’ radios have done that so I thought that was normal. Besides, I’ve made it a habit to always lower the volume before turning the car off so it’s a non-issue.

Unless you mean the car raises the volume up afterwards?

Sorry, I should been more clear...it goes to radio by default, so if you have been listening to an audiobook or music off USB, it still goes to radio when you get in the car.

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Tcoat 04-25-2018 08:54 PM

I still see this as nothing but a minor annoyance but if it really bugs people they could just wire it into an always powered slot like old cars used to be. Many of my cars were like that but they were also AM only and took 3 or 4 minutes for the tubes to warm up before you heard anything. You had to always remember to turn it off though so probably still to much of an inconvenience.

extrashaky 04-25-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ajcarson11 (Post 3077605)
Fair point.. but I like the mental image of ramming the curb more.

I can't imagine it's great for the car to be stopped in this abrupt fashion -- Anyone have general thoughts?

I was definitely kidding. Don't do it.

I have done it in other cars accidentally, and once on purpose to stop one that was running on after being shut off. None of them exploded. However, there's a definite risk to the engine, clutch and transmission. If you stop an airplane engine mechanically, for instance by a prop strike, the FAA requires you to tear it down and inspect it for internal damage before you can put that engine back in service. The stakes are lower for a vehicle that doesn't leave the ground, but the damage potential is still there.

bcj 04-25-2018 09:47 PM

You saying my car has a radio?
How do you make this curandero mindscape manipulation occur?
There's an 0/l button that makes noises, but that's under utilized.

Jesse36m3 04-25-2018 09:47 PM

If you don't mind getting behind the dash and doing some DIY, just rig up a switch in-line with the power cable and route it to the battery instead. As long as the switch is on, the radio will be on.

Horrid_Funk 04-26-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3077442)
Just step on the brake and pop the clutch to stop the engine.

This is the kind of innovative work arounds that I come here for :bonk:

sharpsicle 04-29-2018 09:00 PM

You can always wire up 2 relays in sequence to keep the radio on until you open the door. Essentially create a feedback loop on the first relay, and the door trigger will release the loop. Wire that in series on the accessory wire and you're in business. Did it myself not too long ago.

https://photos-3.dropbox.com/t/2/AAD...36&size_mode=3

RBenz13 05-03-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sharpsicle (Post 3079497)
You can always wire up 2 relays in sequence to keep the radio on until you open the door. Essentially create a feedback loop on the first relay, and the door trigger will release the loop. Wire that in series on the accessory wire and you're in business. Did it myself not too long ago.

https://photos-3.dropbox.com/t/2/AAD...36&size_mode=3

It may just be me, but the photo's not showing...

nico_rsx 05-03-2018 11:10 PM

This guy made a small circuit that keep the radio powered 3 seconds after the ignition is turn off. So it give time to press the push-start button a second time to return to accesories, before the radio shut down.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104178

Leonardo 05-04-2018 02:24 PM

I ran a 12v acc wire to my stereo from the battery with a switch. I can turn my stereo on without my key. Yes I can kill the battery, but I can also sit in my car with the door open and listen to the stereo without the car dinging or the fuel pump on.


I understand the dealership can program my car to not ding with the door open. But, that involves going to the dealership...

Traffic 05-13-2018 10:05 PM

Gentlemen this is what I do when I turn off the car but still want the radio playing.
I leave the car in Drive or neutral, and press the ignition button. I'm pressing the brake to hold the car still of course. Hand brake can be used as well.
The car shuts off but power is still being supplied to the head unit.
Then I shift into park.
The head unit will still be powered till I press the ignition button again, at which point it will turn off.
I use this method when I just parked while listening to a radio program and do not want to miss anything.

ncted 05-14-2018 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Traffic (Post 3086295)
Gentlemen this is what I do when I turn off the car but still want the radio playing.
I leave the car in Drive or neutral, and press the ignition button. I'm pressing the brake to hold the car still of course. Hand brake can be used as well.
The car shuts off but power is still being supplied to the head unit.
Then I shift into park.
The head unit will still be powered till I press the ignition button again, at which point it will turn off.
I use this method when I just parked while listening to a radio program and do not want to miss anything.

So, apparently, the answer is: get an Automatic?


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