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Qwimby1 04-23-2018 10:32 PM

Blind spots
 
I really like the car, but rear visibility isn't great, IMO. It's worse for me because my neck has been fused and I can't turn my head as far as most people. I have the parabolic extra mirrors outside, and I'm trying to put a much larger one on the windshield mount. It's so heavy, though, that the original mirror it attaches to sags. I'll have to find a way to tighten it up. I'm also going to add a backup camera but that won't help any when the car is moving. Does anyone else have a problem with blind spots?

Teseo 04-23-2018 10:38 PM

Back camera definitely, put side mirrors as far they can

ls1ac 04-23-2018 10:40 PM

There is a slightly wide angle that has a spring loaded clip available from Walmart and many auto stores that is relatively light and give a good look back. Only down side, things appear further back than they are.
Race shops have a full width version but require drilling to mount or to a roll cage to keep them from vibrating.

Decep 04-23-2018 10:42 PM

with the mirrors out further, you shouldnt really have blindspots. you can also just turn them in when youre parallel parking so you dont fuck up your wheels too.

navanodd 04-23-2018 10:59 PM

No problem with blind spots at all, I adjust my mirrors like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...id-blind-spots

humfrz 04-23-2018 11:20 PM

Sorry ........ I can't be of any help when it comes to blind spots to the rear of cars.........:sigh:


humfrz

Mr.ac 04-24-2018 03:08 AM

This video help me a lot when I got this car.
https://youtu.be/rEsQ2GtsJ8E

HachiRokuX 04-24-2018 06:01 AM

I had problems with blind spots until I got the rexspeed mirrors. They give me full confidence when changing lanes at all times.

I had the parabolic mirrors too but they actually confused me at times lol. Plus I love the polarized look of the rexspeed, it cuts glare at night.

Tcoat 04-24-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3076617)
Sorry ........ I can't be of any help when it comes to blind spots to the rear of cars.........:sigh:


humfrz

It is good to know your limitations!

Circa85 04-24-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HachiRokuX (Post 3076699)
I had problems with blind spots until I got the rexspeed mirrors. They give me full confidence when changing lanes at all times.

I had the parabolic mirrors too but they actually confused me at times lol. Plus I love the polarized look of the rexspeed, it cuts glare at night.

How long have you had the Rexpeed wide angle mirrors? Have you had any issues with them getting like weird bubbles in them? I haven't even had them a year and while they still function, they have all sorts of weird bubbles like between the glass and the mirror part that makes them look like shit.

TofuJoe 04-24-2018 10:37 AM

I had the Rexpeed mirrors on my previous FR-S for a couple of years. No problems with bubbling or quality. Definitely helped with the blind spot, at the expense of having objects in the mirror looking further away.

HachiRokuX 04-24-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Circa85 (Post 3076746)
How long have you had the Rexpeed wide angle mirrors? Have you had any issues with them getting like weird bubbles in them? I haven't even had them a year and while they still function, they have all sorts of weird bubbles like between the glass and the mirror part that makes them look like shit.



I’ve only had them like a month or so, hopefully they don’t bubble up!


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Spuds 04-24-2018 11:38 AM

I've used the mirror adjustment method for the last ... Almost 10 years at this point (I'm ooooold... :cry:). It works great in 95% of situations if you get used to it. You can almost use the mirrors exclusively for lane changes.

If someone else drives your car though, you are going to have to readjust the mirrors. My fiance almost crashed into someone else on the highway because she couldn't adjust to the car in the mirror is next to you, rather than behind you.

You also have to be careful of overconfidence. It usually leaves a region just big enough to fit a small car/motorcycle outside of your peripheral vision looking forward that the mirrors don't catch. A bit of turning to look is involved in dense traffic but the mirrors do most of the work for you.

Tcoat 04-24-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3076779)
I've used the mirror adjustment method for the last ... Almost 10 years at this point (I'm ooooold... :cry:). It works great in 95% of situations if you get used to it. You can almost use the mirrors exclusively for lane changes.

If someone else drives your car though, you are going to have to readjust the mirrors. My fiance almost crashed into someone else on the highway because she couldn't adjust to the car in the mirror is next to you, rather than behind you.

You also have to be careful of overconfidence. It usually leaves a region just big enough to fit a small car/motorcycle outside of your peripheral vision looking forward that the mirrors don't catch. A bit of turning to look is involved in dense traffic but the mirrors do most of the work for you.

This ^ Word for word.
my wife still will not swing the mirrors out enough to see what is beside her. About 40% of what she sees in the mirror is just the side of the car. At least her new car yells at her if there is somebody in the blind spot.

housecat 04-24-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwimby1 (Post 3076587)
I really like the car, but rear visibility isn't great, IMO. It's worse for me because my neck has been fused and I can't turn my head as far as most people. I have the parabolic extra mirrors outside, and I'm trying to put a much larger one on the windshield mount. It's so heavy, though, that the original mirror it attaches to sags. I'll have to find a way to tighten it up. I'm also going to add a backup camera but that won't help any when the car is moving. Does anyone else have a problem with blind spots?

I have a 2014 BRZ with all the factory mirrors and have no blind spots because I set up my mirror angles correctly. The setup is that as soon as a car cannot be seen in my rear view mirror, it starts appearing in my side view mirror, which is also where the blind spot would be if not setup correctly.

The down side is that it's difficult to parallel park and reverse with the mirrors setup that way, because you can't see the lane/curb through the mirrors without moving them again.

Qwimby1 04-24-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by navanodd (Post 3076606)
No problem with blind spots at all, I adjust my mirrors like this:

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...id-blind-spots

This is all very helpful. I've used that wide outside position for a long time, but the FRS presents some fairly unique problems for me with my fused neck, especially cars passing from right to left behind. I keep the passenger seat positioned so I can see through the small quarter window.
I'm very glad to learn about Rexspeed. I'll order a set today. We Miata owners use a similar system made by Modiction, but I wound up using just the one on the passenger side, and the regular mirror on the driver side. I don't much care for the blue, but I'll try to get used to it. There once was a company called Multivex which made a very different and very effective mirror, but I think they've been out of business for a long time. The first 2/3 them were were flat, but the outer third curved forward, displaying a very wide angle behind without distortion. I had them on one of my motorcycles and they were terrific, but I was never able to get another set.

NOHOME 04-24-2018 02:48 PM

After 40 plus years of driving, I never really learned to set the side mirrors properly until I started driving this car. Takes a while to get them set juuuuussssttt right, but once you do you wont let anyone else drive the car.

Now, backing up at night down a dark narrow laneway is still an issue. If ever there was a car that needed a rear camera, this is it.

Tcoat 04-24-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 3076889)
After 40 plus years of driving, I never really learned to set the side mirrors properly until I started driving this car. Takes a while to get them set juuuuussssttt right, but once you do you wont let anyone else drive the car.

Now, backing up at night down a dark narrow laneway is still an issue. If ever there was a car that needed a rear camera, this is it.

A rear camera and back up lights that have a few more lumens than Dollar Store solar garden lights.

8RZ 04-24-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3076894)
A rear camera and back up lights that have a few more lumens than Dollar Store solar garden lights.

Agreed; upgrading the reverse lights to brighter LEDs was one of my favorite things I've done to the car.

Firecruiser 04-24-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwimby1 (Post 3076789)
This is all very helpful. I've used that wide outside position for a long time, but the FRS presents some fairly unique problems for me with my fused neck, especially cars passing from right to left behind. I keep the passenger seat positioned so I can see through the small quarter window.
I'm very glad to learn about Rexspeed. I'll order a set today. We Miata owners use a similar system made by Modiction, but I wound up using just the one on the passenger side, and the regular mirror on the driver side. I don't much care for the blue, but I'll try to get used to it. There once was a company called Multivex which made a very different and very effective mirror, but I think they've been out of business for a long time. The first 2/3 them were were flat, but the outer third curved forward, displaying a very wide angle behind without distortion. I had them on one of my motorcycles and they were terrific, but I was never able to get another set.


The rexspeed i do believe come in clear if you would prefer that.

Another option are these. https://www.ebay.com/itm/POLARIZED-B...-/192209873847 They have a split section on the edge.

JustSomeGuy 04-24-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3076894)
A rear camera and back up lights that have a few more lumens than Dollar Store solar garden lights.

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3076896)
Agreed; upgrading the reverse lights to brighter LEDs was one of my favorite things I've done to the car.

LET THERE BE LIGHT lol everyone needs these when backing up
https://i.imgur.com/XdHAXOI.jpg

bkharmony 04-24-2018 04:25 PM

I had trouble with blind spots when I first got the car. I fixed it with a header, stage 2 tune, CAI, and FI. You can't run into anything if you're way far out in front of it!!!1

#360hp

Qwimby1 04-24-2018 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JustSomeGuy (Post 3076927)
LET THERE BE LIGHT lol everyone needs these when backing up
https://i.imgur.com/XdHAXOI.jpg

I just ordered the split mirrors. Now I gonna get those lights! Anyone have part numbers?

Qwimby1 04-24-2018 04:49 PM

OK. I got all the info from from Diode Dynamics. I see that all applies to the upper lights. Are the lower lights in the picture still the stock ones?

8RZ 04-24-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwimby1 (Post 3076960)
OK. I got all the info from from Diode Dynamics. I see that all applies to the upper lights. Are the lower lights in the picture still the stock ones?

I don't think so but the lower reverse lights are the ones I upgraded. The lights in the tails will need a special wiring kit (turn as tail) and will need clear bulbs.

Qwimby1 04-24-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3076964)
I don't think so but the lower reverse lights are the ones I upgraded. The lights in the tails will need a special wiring kit (turn as tail) and will need clear bulbs.

Yes, Diode Dynamics has a video showing how to convert all the upper. Total for that kit is $230. I'll look for a replacement for the lower lights first.

Azyael 04-25-2018 11:09 AM

Convex side mirrors set correctly and a Broadway 270mm rear view mirrior snap on fixed everything for me!

Jordanwolf 04-25-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3076780)
This ^ Word for word.
my wife still will not swing the mirrors out enough to see what is beside her. About 40% of what she sees in the mirror is just the side of the car. At least her new car yells at her if there is somebody in the blind spot.

Such a hazard. I know enough people who rely on the little blind spot indicator and beeping for changing lanes... It's maddening to think that these same people at some point drove without these technologies. I feel the same about people who exclusively use reverse camera's to reverse, I've actually watched someone back into a car while actively looking at the reverse cam............. ????

Tcoat 04-25-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordanwolf (Post 3077342)
Such a hazard. I know enough people who rely on the little blind spot indicator and beeping for changing lanes... It's maddening to think that these same people at some point drove without these technologies. I feel the same about people who exclusively use reverse camera's to reverse, I've actually watched someone back into a car while actively looking at the reverse cam............. ????

Oh I didn't say she didn't check her blind spots only that her mirrors are not set properly. She does a very good shoulder check even with the indicator. She just has to take longer at the shoulder check than she would if the mirrors were set up properly. She outright refuses to use the back up camera since the doesn't "trust" it.

Jordanwolf 04-25-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3077347)
Oh I didn't say she didn't check her blind spots only that her mirrors are not set properly. She does a very good shoulder check even with the indicator. She just has to take longer at the shoulder check than she would if the mirrors were set up properly. She outright refuses to use the back up camera since the doesn't "trust" it.

That was me for a while with the backup camera's, but then realised they help with getting just a bit closer in a parking spot and aren't used for actually parking, just fixing/adjusting your parking.

extrashaky 04-25-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by housecat (Post 3076786)
I have a 2014 BRZ with all the factory mirrors and have no blind spots because I set up my mirror angles correctly.

Well aren't you special.

You have blind spots, even with the mirrors properly adjusted. You just don't realize it. The blind spot is not in the lane next to you, but in the next lane over. It comes into play on multi-lane highways and when entering traffic from an entrance ramp. The blind spot is there even with the Rexpeed mirrors. You still have to shoulder check to clear those areas.

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Originally Posted by Circa85 (Post 3076746)
How long have you had the Rexpeed wide angle mirrors? Have you had any issues with them getting like weird bubbles in them?

The first set I bought were used, and they had bubbles when I received them. The heating element is sandwiched right into the mirror backing, and the electrical connector is glued right into the the backing sheet. On the ones I bought, it appears that pulling the connector loose to uninstall them pulled the coating right away from the glass and caused a bubble there. The way that connector sits in there, it wouldn't surprise me if just some rough handling while installing them could cause it to delaminate. Did you just install them and go, or have you pulled them on and off for some reason?

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Originally Posted by Qwimby1 (Post 3076789)
I don't much care for the blue, but I'll try to get used to it.

The visibility is great during the day, but at first I hated mine at night. The extra angle brings in the headlights of more cars behind you, creating more glare. It also makes everything a little smaller and creates more confusion in the image you see. They put that blue coating on there to help reduce some of that extra glare. For me, the blue coating darkens everything and makes it even harder to make out the sources of the extra lights. However, I got used to it and figure the trade off is worth it overall for the extra visibility.

If you don't like them, you can always go back to stock. Just be extra careful removing them if you have the heated versions so that you don't introduce bubbles that will prevent you from being able to sell them.

humfrz 04-25-2018 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3077347)
Oh I didn't say she didn't check her blind spots only that her mirrors are not set properly. She does a very good shoulder check even with the indicator. She just has to take longer at the shoulder check than she would if the mirrors were set up properly. She outright refuses to use the back up camera since the doesn't "trust" it.

Well, I don't blame her.

I picked up a u-rent-em car back in Saint Louis a few summers ago, that had one of them back up cameras.

Yep, the screen shot, which looked like you were looking through a scope of a snipers rifle, lined me up real good with the target ....... but, it didn't yell STOP! .....:iono:


humfrz

extrashaky 04-25-2018 02:52 PM

By the way everyone, it's not Rexspeed. It's peed, not speed. Rexpeed. As in:

"Rex peed on the petunias again. Damned dog."

I don't really care if you call it Rexspeed. I just wanted to poke fun at their stupid company name.

Tcoat 04-25-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3077484)
Well, I don't blame her.

I picked up a u-rent-em car back in Saint Louis a few summers ago, that had one of them back up cameras.

Yep, the screen shot, which looked like you were looking through a scope of a snipers rifle, lined me up real good with the target ....... but, it didn't yell STOP! .....:iono:


humfrz

The thing is that hers does yell stop. If you don't stop after it yells the car stops for you.

Tcoat 04-25-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3077488)
By the way everyone, it's not Rexspeed. It's peed, not speed. Rexpeed. As in:

"Rex peed on the petunias again. Damned dog."

I don't really care if you call it Rexspeed. I just wanted to poke fun at their stupid company name.

I will now sit here randomly chuckling for the rest of the day. The HR Manager next door will once again think I have lost it.

housecat 04-25-2018 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 3077438)
Well aren't you special.
You have blind spots, even with the mirrors properly adjusted. You just don't realize it. The blind spot is not in the lane next to you, but in the next lane over. It comes into play on multi-lane highways and when entering traffic from an entrance ramp. The blind spot is there even with the Rexpeed mirrors. You still have to shoulder check to clear those areas.

That's why I don't change more than one lane at a time :lol:

If there's a situation where I really need to switch two lanes, or my mirror angle doesn't cover the angle I'm entering from a ramp, I'm obviously going to shoulder check. I don't expect my mirrors to look 4 lanes over for me, but if that's what you call a blind spot, fine I agree, I have blind spots

humfrz 04-25-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3077491)
The thing is that hers does yell stop. If you don't stop after it yells the car stops for you.

Well, in that case, that feature will be a must have on my next new car ......:thumbsup:


humfrz

humfrz 04-25-2018 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by housecat (Post 3077523)
That's why I don't change more than one lane at a time :lol:

If there's a situation where I really need to switch two lanes, or my mirror angle doesn't cover the angle I'm entering from a ramp, I'm obviously going to shoulder check. I don't expect my mirrors to look 4 lanes over for me, but if that's what you call a blind spot, fine I agree, I have blind spots

Don't forget about this one ...... :eyebulge:


humfrz

extrashaky 04-25-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by housecat (Post 3077523)
That's why I don't change more than one lane at a time :lol:

The problem arises when you want to move over one lane and the car in your blind spot suddenly appears out of nowhere trying to take the same lane you are from the other side. It's also a problem when entering traffic on an entrance ramp, where you can't see the car in the next lane because the next lane is not right next to the ramp. This is particularly dangerous in my area because as soon as you check over your shoulder for traffic coming up in the blind spot, the stupid fuck in front of you will slam on her brakes because she doesn't know how to merge.

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