Future 86 Interior Ideas
 

Just curious what design aspects the 86 community would like to see implemented in the next iteration of the 86 interior design. After looking over the recent photos of Ferrari's 488 Pista, notably the interior shots, I felt there were some cues that could easily be carried over to the 86. Here's a quick list of possibilities:

1. Start button/more controls on steering wheel
2. Flat bottom steering wheel
3. Shift lights on top of steering wheel
4. Deletion of analog speedometer
5. Dash controls pointed more towards driver, less straight ahead
6. Less silver plastic accents, more dark or carbon accents
7. Deletion of manual parking brake*
8. Alcantra dash covering

*This one is doubtable, for cost and also drift implementations

Here's the 488 Pista interior

http://i63.tinypic.com/2q1die9.jpg

Here's the 2018 86 interior

http://i68.tinypic.com/v3huvo.jpg

and here's the interior of the Supra prototype. Ehh....

http://i68.tinypic.com/24b6sco.jpg

Any other interior features you would like to add / delete from the current design?

I want less buttons on my steering wheel, not more.
Flat bottom wheel would be nice
shift lights would get annoying on a daily, and track guys can add the one they want
Analog speedo is redundant, would be all for ditching that
Dark accents would be nice

No more of that awful silver trim. Pleeeaaaaseee

Leave the fancy crap for the big boys. I don't need more of anything and certainly do not want the price increases it would bring.

1. Start button/more controls on steering wheel -Less buttons, not more, please.

2. Flat bottom steering wheel-I prefer round wheels for track use


4. Deletion of analog speedometer Seriously, the analog speedo is such a waste of space on this car.



6. Less silver plastic accents, more dark or carbon accents The tS black accents are really nice. They look much higher quality than the silver.

7. Deletion of manual parking brake* Don't even.

8. Alcantra dash covering Once again, the tS Alcantara gauge hood is really nice, and extending that over the dash would be nice, but probably expensive.

-Making Recaros an option would be great, and I mean something like the Sportster, not the half-hearted ones in the WRX/STI.

I like NO buttons on steering wheel that is round

I like my manual e-brake

I prefer analog speedo but the one we have is hard to read so I rely on digital.

If I can't have legible speedo I want analog temp, oil and voltage gauges.

I want a radio with real buttons

To tell the truth I had forgotten the analog speedo was even there. The left side of the gauge cluster may as well not even exist to me.


There was a write up someplace that it is required in some markets though.

I'm just gonna go all out and say I hate every one of these ideas.

1. Start button/more controls on steering wheel - No more buttons on the wheel, only button on the wheel itself should be the horn.
2. Flat bottom steering wheel - this would be cool
3. Shift lights on top of steering wheel - silly, the top of the wheel isn't going to be in your LOS all the time. If anything put it at the top of the cluster or in a HUD.
4. Deletion of analog speedometer - agree it's redundant with the digital one, but there might be some regulation mandating it (if not here then other countries it's sold in)
5. Dash controls pointed more towards driver, less straight ahead - I like the way they are now. Plus if they're pointed towards the driver how will the passenger control their climate settings for those with fancy dual zone climate control?
6. Less silver plastic accents, more dark or carbon accents - yep, silver looks silly. Less on the 10 series with the other accents it has though.
7. Deletion of manual parking brake* - I'll never trust an electronic parking brake
8. Alcantra dash covering - looks tacky to me, though I've never been a fan of carpeted/covered dashes.

i wouldnt mind less silver and more black

either put the usb slot elsewhere and make it a useful slot or add something to go there completely

a steering wheel like older frs models but maybe a more "sporty" shape with no buttons

better ac contols, i dont know what the new model is like but the older ones were very cheap to me (non dual climate)

the gauge cluster needs work lol i dont even use the left side cause i find the needle painful to look at

and a more complete look all around, i feel like theres multiple shades from light grey-black all around and seems mismatched to me


just my thoughts :iono:

1. I prefer no controls on steering wheel
2. Round steering wheel all the way.. better for drifting
3. Shift lights on top the steering wheel is useless this car revs too slow to warrant that.
4. I would love to get full digital gauge cluster but looked into it a while ago and it's basically impossible unless you can manufacture and program yourself.
5. Don't care much about dash being pointed sideways.
6. Carbon is always nice but $$$
7. Absolutely keep the manual handbrake... because drifting
8. Alcantara is always nice but $$$

488 Pista is (will be after Geneva) literally the tip top of the line as far as Luxury Supercars go.. and 86 is neither of those so having the same interior layout as one would just seem off to me.

Personally, I don't mind the analog instrumentation in the gauge cluster. I do mind the stupid "knee pads" on the center console. Thin them out or remove them. it's an extra half inch of precious knee space.

Change the double din back to a standard 178mm opening. the 200mm is stupid. Steering wheel should be smaller than thicker. i'm thinking TRD girth and MY2017 diameter would be perfect.

Put actual plastic seat belt runners on the seat rather than the cheap button on flap.

Never cared about push button start, but if it had to come with one, do it like the S2000, have it closer to where the ignition is supposed to be instead of looking like an after thought underneath the HVAC controls.

Why would anyone want to get rid of a manual hand brake is beyond me on ANY car. I rather have something that is mechanical in case of an emergency to stop me, not a freakin' button that sends and electric signal for the car to interpret before applying the brakes.

If i had it my way, i'd scrap the cruise control and go throttle by cable.

I'd also go for a manual rack

Those are just my things i'd want.

The only time alcantara should be used on the dash is if you also have 30" rims and a gold/green paint job. Here's a pair of alcantara dice to go with your pimpin' ghetto aesthetic:

http://cdn.wfshop.be/imagestore/maxD...BJ0014/640.jpg

I've always assumed this is the only reason that useless thing even exists.

Honest question - does anyone really think this car will ever get a real interior redesign? I don't mean minor changes, I mean actual makeover. I think in order to keep costs down, it's going to be the way it is for the run of the car.

That said, I would just like a little more thought put into some extra storage space. I've never been one for fancy "spaceship" interiors. I just want the important stuff to be easy to see and access. But I do need more storage. The "bin" under the climate controls is a joke. The console is the worst of all worlds. If anything, I'd like to see a functional arm rest. I was going to install the aftermarket one, until I realized it would remove the only place I can store my phone (right next to the outlet).

Also, fix the damned stereo control pad on the left side of the steering wheel. The Toyota version is a joke. Buttons are too small, don't register input well, and if I hit "+" more than twice quickly, it throws my radio into chaos.

I'd love to see the head unit are angled toward the driver (like the tC), but I don't think there's a realistic chance of that. Simple, cheap interior is one of the things that keeps these cars under $30K.

So to summarize: make a real armrest, make bin big enough for a phone, fix steering mounted stereo control, and I'm good. Oh, and if you want to kill the analog speedo, that's fine with me.

They will keep adding more doodads, gizmos and thingamabobs to make it seem upscale but no I doubt it will see any real changes.


The big question is when do you think the dollar store where they get the 1986 clock will run out of stock?

I like steering wheels without the middle portion so you can rest your hand during highway trips and not mess with the direction of the car.

https://www.netcarshow.com/Alfa_Rome...15-1280-81.jpg

My contour had one like that and I miss it.

https://www.netcarshow.com/Ford-Cont...00-1024-0b.jpg

The Ford GT did this as well.

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I wouldn't mind a fixed, analogue tach with screens flanking it on either side for all your redundant info. If it went full digital, I guess that would be cool. I wouldn't mind choosing between a race-style bar or a generic round tach.


I agree that the controls for everything should be angled towards the driver and within quick reach, similar to the S2000. You don't need a center screen if it is in the gauge pod.

I like the interior the way it is, except for the dash hood (too reflective) and the analog speedometer (useless). And the rear seats, those are dumb too.

I wish they would spend less time on redesigning the interior and more time making it more powerful and/or lighter. But that's hard, so it's not going to happen.

There are not a whole lot of places to put it. I treat my car as a two-seater, keep the rear seat back folded down all the time and use the cavity formed by the seats themselves as storage. The seat delete kits that were briefly popular a couple of years ago get rid of the padding and make that storage area considerably larger.

I installed the US Scion OEM sliding armrest in mine. It doesn't look quite as good as the JDM flip up arm rest, but it's more functional because it's higher (for taller Americans) and it slides out of the way to allow access to the cupholders and outlet. My Iphone 5 will fit in the cupholder slot with the pad slid forward over it. Take the cupholder out and you have room for just about any phone.

That can't be it, unless it's a new regulation. Both Honda S2000 and 8thgen Civic+ had digital speedos only.

The analog speedometer is there because if they deleted it, customers would bitch and whine about it being missing.

I'd like a Siri or Alexa type robot person chiming in about my driving habits. Like complimenting on a clean heel-toe, or jeering me for a miss shift.

It happens already with my wife in the car, so might as well have a robot do it when she's not present.

As the owner of an AE86 GTS with a complete and good condition original interior, I'm just going to say this is the worst idea ever.

Heh.

Yeah, I was just looking at the center bit wondering how they could make some room for my much-desires phone bin, and I thought - why not take out that crappy clock and move the other two buttons somewhere else? Could easily make room for a modern phone.

I'm talking about storage for small things in the dash or console: entry cards, wallet, phone, USB sticks, Star Wars figures, cans of Vienna Sausage, etc. Overall storage hasn't been an issue for me. Just throw bigger stuff in the "back seat."

Yeah, I looked at this one, but the thing is, if you slide it forward so you can - you know, rest your arm on the armrest - your phone has to go behind it, where I can't get to it (AT A STOP LIGHT), and it also makes charing kinda awkward. If you slide the armrest back so you can store your phone closer, there's no reason to have the armrest. Which is why I didn't buy it.

LOL at that Supra interior. "I know! Lets make it look like you are in an F1 car, and add this stupid tunell-looking thing your legs go in. Never mind the ergos."

Multi-function flat-screen LCD dash like an LFA for the 86. Setup how you want.

This is what I see:

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Personally I'm interested in the car remaining as basic as possible. Keep all that extra crap for the white collar crowd, and for the above, not for me thanks.

I certainly noticed how Toyota ruined the 86 by giving it a bland interior for 2017 to suit the white collar crowd...sorry Toyota, if I need a replacement it's gonna be a BRZ.


Let's give it more power, make it harder riding, a more complicated front suspension, possibly remove the power steering, result, even more of a driver's car. Radio delete, why not.

Maybe for mk2 in 2024

I WANT MY RADIO DAMNIT! OK if it is just FM with a coupe of knobs though.

Gotta admit, I do listen to the music system in my car (not the actual radio, but music via the usb input).

I listen to music more often than I did upon first ownership.

Would I miss the 'radio' if it were not there ? Probably rarely.

Also it's much safer at my age driving sans distractions. I always turn off music in heavy traffic. Getting old...

Let's be perfectly honest here. Does anyone really think this car will be around long enough to even warrant an overhaul of the interior? Two,maybe three years max is about as long as I see this car being around.

:iono: ....... the Miata has hung around for several years .....:)


humfrz

Do it. If you remove the center stack, the clock module snaps out of the back of it. You could easily make a pocket to go in its place or have someone 3D print you one.

I think you're missing the point. It slides. You rest your arm on the armrest. When you need your phone, you lift your arm, slide the armrest back, pick up your phone and use it. Then you put the phone back, slide the armrest forward again and put your elbow on it. I do this all the time with mine without thinking about it.

Or you could just complain about not having an armrest, when a perfectly adequate solution exists.

The Australian 86 has had a start button since 2012.

I like the steering wheel having no buttons.

It's been an option in all markets. What he wants is to move the start button to the steering wheel, because the center stack is too far to reach, and he has to rest for a moment after pushing it.

I have that issue with reaching the head unit controls. That 8" reach is just more than I can manage some days. Not really sure how I ever changed the 8 track tapes.

http://nostalgiacentral.com/wp-conte.../05/8track.jpg

And damn those angled controls would have made pulling the choke knob a lot easier than being inset and behind the steering wheel. I have no idea how anybody managed to drive before everything was an inch away.

http://www.superstitiongold.com/linc...300%20Dash.JPG

I get the advantages of ergo set ups but for a bunch of guys that want a "raw" car there is a whole lot of nit picking. Carbon inserts instead of plastic? Shift lights in the steering wheel? MORE controls on the steering wheel? When the 86 hits the price point of the Pista then maybe it will have the same features.

Oh, I was just happy when they moved the start thing to the inside of the car .... :iono:


humfrz

Sure that you weren't glad you didn't have to build up a head of steam?

http://www.american-automobiles.com/...amcar-1903.jpg

Oh, YOU had a tape player in your car ...... an 8 TRACK at that ...... :eyebulge:
(spoilt city kid)


Before that, once you did find the choke knob and pulled it out, one had to reach all the way over to the center of the floorboard, with your right leg and push the starter pedal.

Don't forget to push the choke all the way in after a spell ..... NO, the manual never said how far and for how long to keep it pulled out.

If you wanted to dim your headlights ...... you had to find the dimmer switch on the floorboard ..... with your left foot ...... yep, the same one you used to push in the clutch ...... so get your timing right.

Fresh air ....... oh yes, just reach under the center of the dash and push the vent lever down. Don't forget to open up the side vent (manually) to let the smoke out.

OK, here we go down the highway. Cruise control ..... of course ..... just pull out the throttle cable, that's on the dash, and hold it out with a coin jammed behind it ...... size of coin would depend on how fast you wanted to go.

I just don't know how we managed ...... :sigh:


:D


humfrz