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SquadRon 02-18-2018 11:59 PM

GREAT
 
I was turning into a neighborhood today when somebody thought they can cut through traffic to the intersection to make a right over there then as I drove into the neighborhood I saw him on my side and he slammed me out
He told me he was in a hurry and when people are in a hurry and there's backed up traffic that's what people do they drive into this imaginary lane and "cut" people off. More like block people off the neighborhood

https://youtu.be/ziLr59FKbM4

humfrz 02-19-2018 12:36 AM

What a jerk ........:mad0260:

Did he hit your car ......it sounded like it .. ??

Did you have your turn signal ON ...... ??

A good case for a dash cam.


humfrz

SquadRon 02-19-2018 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3046272)
What a jerk ........:mad0260:

Did he hit your car ......it sounded like it .. ??

Did you have your turn signal ON ...... ??

A good case for a dash cam.


humfrz

Yeah he hit it but I saw him right before I fully turned cause I was aware this fool was going to hit me but it was too late before I could stop to let him cut through traffic
Brakes and turn signal

MRCA1ST 02-20-2018 09:45 AM

That sucks, hopefully the damage isn't too bad, glad the dashcam caught it

Swift 02-20-2018 11:03 AM

I am in the Midwest and even we have a few of these roads/situations...mostly from the paint wearing off to much through winter snow plowing.

Point is, for a few seconds I was trying to figure out if it was 2 or 3 lanes where you were because someone farther up was farther to the right.

In that situation and I am not sure if it was because you saw him, but the impression I get was it looked like you were going straight because you were braking late and then turned "wide" by almost going into the other lane coming out from the neighbor hood.

He was in the wrong for sure, but if you were farther to your right well before turn(if no cars parked on street) with blinker on there is no way he could have hit you or unless he was hauling ass he would have rear ended you. If you showed this clip to me as a cop I probably would have ticketed you as well...shit almost looks intentional on your part too.

Not to be mean or anything but if that is how you normally drive you aren't good at all, that is how old people drive or 15yr olds who didn't have the instructor bitch them out for swinging wide. That is what semi trucks do, not little cars.

Tcoat 02-20-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Swift (Post 3046880)
I am in the Midwest and even we have a few of these roads/situations...mostly from the paint wearing off to much through winter snow plowing.

Point is, for a few seconds I was trying to figure out if it was 2 or 3 lanes where you were because someone farther up was farther to the right.

In that situation and I am not sure if it was because you saw him, but the impression I get was it looked like you were going straight because you were braking late and then turned "wide" by almost going into the other lane coming out from the neighbor hood.

He was in the wrong for sure, but if you were farther to your right well before turn(if no cars parked on street) with blinker on there is no way he could have hit you or unless he was hauling ass he would have rear ended you. If you showed this clip to me as a cop I probably would have ticketed you as well...shit almost looks intentional on your part too.

Not to be mean or anything but if that is how you normally drive you aren't good at all, that is how old people drive or 15yr olds who didn't have the instructor bitch them out for swinging wide. That is what semi trucks do, not little cars.


I am with you. On top of that I don't hear a blinker going and the audio is very clear so I would think you should be able to. Haven't listened with headphones though so maybe it is there and just too faint for the speakers.


From all appearances, considering he was riding the white line right up to the turn, how far he passed the corner before starting that wide turn and then turning well into the oncoming lane to the right I would not have anticipated the turn if I was following him either. This goes double if there was no turn signal. It looks more to me like Squady decided to turn at the last second and is at least partially to blame for the accident.

humfrz 02-20-2018 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Swift (Post 3046880)
...............Not to be mean or anything but if that is how you normally drive you aren't good at all, that is how old people drive or 15yr olds who didn't have the instructor bitch them out for swinging wide. That is what semi trucks do, not little cars.

HEY! ........ just a cotton picking minute, there Swift ....... I ALWAYS have my turn signal ON ....... (it just seems to stay ON)...... :iono:


humfrz

Summerwolf 02-20-2018 01:20 PM

I had no idea you were turning until the last second. Looked like you'd have turned in to oncoming traffic if there had been some anyways.

That was easily avoidable. If you saw him, and knew what he was about to do.... stop turning and go up a block.

Sucks for sure, and he was in the wrong, but it looks easily preventable from that video.

Clipdat 02-20-2018 01:39 PM

I just cranked the shit out of the video, and heard no turn signal.

MRCA1ST 02-20-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3046978)
I had no idea you were turning until the last second. Looked like you'd have turned in to oncoming traffic if there had been some anyways.


I thought the same thing as well. The thing that is weird is that the guy who hit him was turning just as late, if not later, stop the video at the :17sec mark where the contact was made and the other guy is basically perpendicular to the road he was supposedly turning on to, his wheels don't really turn until after the impact, well past the middle of the intersection.


If I were to guess I would say he didn't know the OP was turning and thought he could pass him on the right to get ahead of him and keep going straight.

Swift 02-20-2018 01:52 PM

My wife took a ride with someone that didn't know how a 4 way stop actually works(who goes first etc). Now yes most of the time the rules get broken but she was helling at the other people for being stupid and my wife was confused..

I mean the lady was from Canada...so maybe it is opposite lol??

Tcoat 02-20-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Swift (Post 3046993)
My wife took a ride with someone that didn't know how a 4 way stop actually works(who goes first etc). Now yes most of the time the rules get broken but she was helling at the other people for being stupid and my wife was confused..

I mean the lady was from Canada...so maybe it is opposite lol??

Our turns at 4 ways are done in metric.

Tcoat 02-20-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MRCA1ST (Post 3046988)
I thought the same thing as well. The thing that is weird is that the guy who hit him was turning just as late, if not later, stop the video at the :17sec mark where the contact was made and the other guy is basically perpendicular to the road he was supposedly turning on to, his wheels don't really turn until after the impact, well past the middle of the intersection.


If I were to guess I would say he didn't know the OP was turning and thought he could pass him on the right to get ahead of him and keep going straight.

Looks like it may be a common action along that stretch. Watch the white SUV close to the right curb. He passes the whole line of traffic on the right.


Edit: The more I watch the more I am convinced that the guy decided that when Squady moved to the left he had a chance to get around him on the right. He is moving too fast to have been planning to turn and already had to be beside the car when Squady started his turn. There just isn't time for him to have caught up and be where he is if he wasn't already part way there. Takes a bit of the blame off of Squady but he still should be checking before the turn (what if it was a kid on a bike?), the turn was sloppy at best and I am certain there was no signal made.

VIP BRZ 02-20-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon (Post 3046275)
I was aware this fool was going to hit me

Then... why'd you make the turn?

"This guy is in the wrong, so ill just hit him"

Brink 02-20-2018 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VIP BRZ (Post 3047149)
Then... why'd you make the turn?

"This guy is in the wrong, so ill just hit him"

Almost looks like Squad was planning to continue straight ahead here, saw the guy passing him on the right, and deliberately blocked/hit him.

Tcoat 02-20-2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brink (Post 3047154)
Almost looks like Squad was planning to continue straight ahead here, saw the guy passing him on the right, and deliberately blocked/hit him.

I doubt that he did it on purpose but he does have an interesting history.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81548

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Brzandt 02-20-2018 09:01 PM

From what I see squaddy is 100% at fault.

MRCA1ST 02-21-2018 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3047000)
The more I watch the more I am convinced that the guy decided that when Squady moved to the left he had a chance to get around him on the right. He is moving too fast to have been planning to turn and already


Same here, even with the careen-assist he barely made the turn without hitting the curb on the opposite side, he was definitely trying to pass. Whether or not Squad was trying to block him is debatable, I doubt it can be proven either way. I do wonder what they'll say about the lack of a turn signal, Squad said he used it, can't hear it, if the other guy says he didn't see a signal I don't know if that will put partial fault on him. Obviously the other guy shouldn't have even been there, but if you get ticketed for a moving violation that involves an accident I am sure it can get hairy.

Tcoat 02-21-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Brzandt (Post 3047287)
From what I see squaddy is 100% at fault.

I disagree. Maybe 10%. The guy on his right was not in a designated lane. The turn may have been sloppy and sudden but Squady did "own" the lane from the white line to the curb and the other guy had no right to be attempting to pass. The only failure on Squady's part was a lack of situational awareness in both that turn and the fact the guy was there.

Clipdat 02-21-2018 11:49 AM

He's also guilty of a good old fashioned post and run.

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3047470)
I disagree. Maybe 10%. The guy on his right was not in a designated lane. The turn may have been sloppy and sudden but Squady did "own" the lane from the white line to the curb and the other guy had no right to be attempting to pass. The only failure on Squady's part was a lack of situational awareness in both that turn and the fact the guy was there.


Tcoat 02-21-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 3047522)
He's also guilty of a good old fashioned post and run.

Oh that is not unusual for him. He will return eventually.


He is an OK guy. just rather... um.... eccentric.

Brzandt 02-21-2018 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3047470)
I disagree. Maybe 10%. The guy on his right was not in a designated lane. The turn may have been sloppy and sudden but Squady did "own" the lane from the white line to the curb and the other guy had no right to be attempting to pass. The only failure on Squady's part was a lack of situational awareness in both that turn and the fact the guy was there.

In many places that unmarked lane/shoulder is used as a 3rd lane. Very obvious that’s the case here. So squaddy turned right from a center lane and was attempting to turn into the center of the road in the right splitting the lanes. I’m fairly certain the guy was simply driving in the 3rd lane and when squaddy passed the point of making a turn, even if illegal from a center lane, he decided to pass. Squaddy 100% wrong.
I did have a good bit of entertainment reading through his previous post tho. I also came to the conclusion that Tcoat is in fact squaddy. So sorry Tcoat but your at fault for this accident.

Tcoat 02-21-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brzandt (Post 3047815)
In many places that unmarked lane/shoulder is used as a 3rd lane. Very obvious that’s the case here. So squaddy turned right from a center lane and was attempting to turn into the center of the road in the right splitting the lanes. I’m fairly certain the guy was simply driving in the 3rd lane and when squaddy passed the point of making a turn, even if illegal from a center lane, he decided to pass. Squaddy 100% wrong.
I did have a good bit of entertainment reading through his previous post tho. I also came to the conclusion that Tcoat is in fact squaddy. So sorry Tcoat but your at fault for this accident.

"Used as" and an actual legal lane are not the same thing. I doubt there is a law on the books anyplace that says "If a lane is wide then it should be used as two lanes". What people do and what is legal should not be confused.

And no I am not now, ever have been or ever wish to be Squady.

SquadRon 02-25-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VIP BRZ (Post 3047149)
Then... why'd you make the turn?

"This guy is in the wrong, so ill just hit him"

The guys a fucking idiot I was turning to look for pedestrians or bicyclists on the side of my lane and as I looked I turned and next thing you know before I could make that full turn into the neighborhood this dumb fuck is blocking me and all of a sudden fucking hits part of my turn when it was my right of way


My AC was on max and the turn signal for the rental car barely even sounds assuming its been taken care of by everybody else that just rents it lol


tldr;
there was a idiot in my lane

Spuds 02-25-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon (Post 3049637)
tldr;
there was a idiot in my lane

:laughabove:

:popcorn:

SquadRon 02-25-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3049657)
:laughabove:

:popcorn:

he's going to cut thru traffic to get to the intersection

SquadRon 02-25-2018 03:50 PM

Well I am new to the neighborhood so I am always cautiously turning into neighborhoods but the point is I looked and as I was turning I got hit and since I look everytime I saw a car speedily cutting me from the neighborhood

Ultramaroon 02-25-2018 05:18 PM

Look. It was the dude's fault no matter how horribly you were driving.

Maybe getting stuck behind you rustles jimmies.

humfrz 02-25-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon (Post 3049637)
The guys a fucking idiot ............e

Question, where is this intersection (scene of the crime) ...... ??


humfrz

SquadRon 02-26-2018 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3049719)
Question, where is this intersection (scene of the crime) ...... ??


humfrz

Azusa and Michelle in west covina is the neighborhood idk the intersection lol but its next to it

humfrz 02-26-2018 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon (Post 3049900)
Azusa and Michelle in west covina is the neighborhood idk the intersection lol but its next to it

OK, thanks for the info.

After a closer look, I figure that IF you had your turn signal ON, the other driver was at fault, for not yielding the right of way.

IF you DIDN'T have your turn signal ON, you were at fault for cutting him off.

Actually, it's a bit of both of you-ens fault ...... it appears that your turn was a last minute thought ...... and the other fellow was impatient.

judge humfrz has ruled

:bonk:

SquadRon 03-11-2018 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3049908)
OK, thanks for the info.

After a closer look, I figure that IF you had your turn signal ON, the other driver was at fault, for not yielding the right of way.

IF you DIDN'T have your turn signal ON, you were at fault for cutting him off.

Actually, it's a bit of both of you-ens fault ...... it appears that your turn was a last minute thought ...... and the other fellow was impatient.

judge humfrz has ruled

:bonk:

No it was a sign that I drove closer to read and watch for the neighborhood as I enter without cutting anybody off lest there was a impatient rocket

Tcoat 03-11-2018 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon (Post 3056645)
No it was a sign that I drove closer to read and watch for the neighborhood as I enter without cutting anybody off lest there was a impatient rocket

What?

humfrz 03-11-2018 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon (Post 3056645)
No it was a sign that I drove closer to read and watch for the neighborhood as I enter without cutting anybody off lest there was a impatient rocket

Soooo........ you admit that you weren't sure where you were going and cut into that street, at the last minute, on a chance that it might lead to the right subdivision ......??

My ruling stands .......case closed!


Now that reminds me of a story about West Covina. This is a loooong story, so I will just tell the first part.

It was a hot, late afternoon in July, when I decided to drop in and visit my younger brother, who was living in West Covina. I had the address and he said just to come around to the back.

Now, understand that my younger brother had just got back from Vietnam, after serving a year as a marine in a LRRP (Long Range Recon Patrol) unit. When he got off active duty ...... he went full hippie and was living in this "commune" setting in West Covina.

The place consisted of a big, old two story house on a main street, with a large back yard (maybe a half acre), that was enclosed by what were at one time, migrant shacks. Back in the day, that was a fruit growing area.

Since I was on my way to UC Riverside on business, I was dressed in a suit and driving my company car (a 1972, dark green, Ford gran torino, with blackwall tires). Really, I kid you not.

As I pulled up in the back and hopped out ...... the hippies scattered, toilets were flushing, people were burying stuff, people were eating stuff. My brother was rushing around trying to convince them I wasn't a fed ......that I was his brother.

There must have been two dozen people living in the big house and surrounding migrant shacks.

As the evening progressed ........

TO BE CONTINUED


humfrz

bcj 03-11-2018 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3056649)
case closed!


I wasn't a fed ...
As the evening progressed ........

humfrz

"BAILIFF! WHACK HIS PEE PEE!"

krayzie 03-11-2018 01:52 PM

Squady Vaughn just needs some glasses to drive.

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-conte...hn-832x447.jpg

humfrz 03-11-2018 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 3056765)
Squady Vaughn just needs some glasses to drive.

Yep, he should have been able to read that street sign from across the street ...... :iono:


humfrz

MuseChaser 03-11-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SquadRon (Post 3056645)
No it was a sign that I drove closer to read and watch for the neighborhood as I enter without cutting anybody off lest there was a impatient rocket

For if I mambo dogface to the banana patch of course the cutoff would happen on the right if it wasn't under where I wanted to jump so that's why I did what the guy thought of I don't know why dudes understand differently from what should thoughts have happening.

jeffchap 03-11-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser (Post 3056839)
For if I mambo dogface to the banana patch of course the cutoff would happen on the right if it wasn't under where I wanted to jump so that's why I did what the guy thought of I don't know why dudes understand differently from what should thoughts have happening.



Love the Steve Martin reference!


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