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raz0rbladez909 07-23-2012 02:23 PM

Any 3 inch exhausts in development?
 
I know that most aftermarket companies are sticking close to the stock exhaust diameter or only stepping it up slightly, but are still producing decent results. I'm wondering if there is anyone that is developing a 3 inch catback exhaust or has messed around with that size piping yet.

Reason being is for years in the S2000 community there had been many people sticking to the theory of backpressure being needed to help with torque causing the aftermarket to stick with smaller diameter piping. More recently as the popularity of turbo kits started rising so did the aftermarkets exhaust piping diameters. Some people tried using the bigger piping exhaust on their NA cars and found that they gained power througout the entire powerband. It is well known that the F20/F22 flows very well, and I'm assuming that the FA20 would be pretty similar especially being alot newer.

Are there any manufacturers that might consider the possibility of an NA 3-inch catback exhaust?

Don@Accelerated 07-23-2012 02:27 PM

I have a lightweight 3" Exhaust System!

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909 (Post 333282)
I know that most aftermarket companies are sticking close to the stock exhaust diameter or only stepping it up slightly, but are still producing decent results. I'm wondering if there is anyone that is developing a 3 inch catback exhaust or has messed around with that size piping yet.

Reason being is for years in the S2000 community there had been many people sticking to the theory of backpressure being needed to help with torque causing the aftermarket to stick with smaller diameter piping. More recently as the popularity of turbo kits started rising so did the aftermarkets exhaust piping diameters. Some people tried using the bigger piping exhaust on their NA cars and found that they gained power througout the entire powerband. It is well known that the F20/F22 flows very well, and I'm assuming that the FA20 would be pretty similar especially being alot newer.

Are there any manufacturers that might consider the possibility of an NA 3-inch catback exhaust?


denverizzles 07-23-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909 (Post 333282)
I know that most aftermarket companies are sticking close to the stock exhaust diameter or only stepping it up slightly, but are still producing decent results. I'm wondering if there is anyone that is developing a 3 inch catback exhaust or has messed around with that size piping yet.

Reason being is for years in the S2000 community there had been many people sticking to the theory of backpressure being needed to help with torque causing the aftermarket to stick with smaller diameter piping. More recently as the popularity of turbo kits started rising so did the aftermarkets exhaust piping diameters. Some people tried using the bigger piping exhaust on their NA cars and found that they gained power througout the entire powerband. It is well known that the F20/F22 flows very well, and I'm assuming that the FA20 would be pretty similar especially being alot newer.

Are there any manufacturers that might consider the possibility of an NA 3-inch catback exhaust?

So what's the verdict on the back-pressure theory?

raz0rbladez909 07-23-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by denverizzles (Post 333301)
So what's the verdict on the back-pressure theory?

Basically it has dispelled the "NA cars need smaller piping" myth. These are threads from just the s2000 and honda tech forums documenting no loss in power and gains throughout the entire rev range with the larger diameter piping. In fact it is now quite common in the K-series world to see 3 inch exhausts on NA setups. Here's some threads for reference.
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8960...-inch-exhaust/
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8132...-dynos-inside/
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2341715
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...ghlight=3+Inch

I'm very curious for results around here, especially since it is a very new platform. Just figured I'd throw out some food for thought:party0030:

Don@accelerated: Were you able to dyno your 3-inch exhaust compared to other piping diameters? If so do you have any dyno plots? Do you have any pictures of the setup as well?

FreedE 07-23-2012 02:55 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9309

Opposed 07-23-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Freed Engineering (Post 333341)

Still waiting on specs of this thing. Dyno? It looks mean...

raz0rbladez909 07-23-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Freed Engineering (Post 333341)

I saw that earlier when I was browsing, looks and sounds awesome! Patiently awaiting dyno results ;)

FreedE 07-23-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Opposed (Post 333351)
Still waiting on specs of this thing. Dyno? It looks mean...

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909 (Post 333360)
I saw that earlier when I was browsing, looks and sounds awesome! Patiently awaiting dyno results ;)


:) I know I know..... I promise this week for sure. Small hiccup with getting our new dyno up and running but it's all good now.

Thanks for the interest.

- Billy

TouchMyHonda 07-23-2012 03:35 PM

I have a 3inch exhaust on my 1.8 B18c5. I have 13:5 comp. Totally didn't under produce power with it. 2+ Liter K series engines LOVE 3inch piping.

jet86 07-23-2012 03:55 PM

I've done a 3" 316L system with 3 straight through magnaflow mufflers and hks burnt muffler tips for my turbo setup. Will be jigging it soon for production.

PERRIN 07-23-2012 03:59 PM

We will eventually have at least two exhaust systems to choose from, 3" being one of them. We designed and built it at the same time as the 2.5" system. Noise levels and price tell us the 2.5" one will be more popular so it will be available first then we'll move to the 3".

mechaghost 07-23-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PERRIN (Post 333462)
We will eventually have at least two exhaust systems to choose from, 3" being one of them. We designed and built it at the same time as the 2.5" system. Noise levels and price tell us the 2.5" one will be more popular so it will be available first then we'll move to the 3".

How much more noise does it generate?

jet86 07-24-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mechaghost (Post 333836)
How much more noise does it generate?

It would be hard to have a 3" system without a turbo that would be in the legal noise range. I would imagine hp would be lower than running a 2.5" system without turbo application.

raz0rbladez909 07-24-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jet86 (Post 335900)
It would be hard to have a 3" system without a turbo that would be in the legal noise range. I would imagine hp would be lower than running a 2.5" system without turbo application.

What makes you think that hp would be lower? Just out of curiosity.

jet86 07-24-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909 (Post 336090)
What makes you think that hp would be lower? Just out of curiosity.

Less exhaust velocity, naturally aspirated engines need the correct balance of exhaust velocity and back pressure, higher velocity will actually help to pull (scavenge) the exhaust has out of the cylinder.

Juanito08 07-24-2012 08:41 PM

Im running a 3" Front pipe, mid-pipe and dual exhaust... Im loving it :) no dynos yet

TouchMyHonda 07-24-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Juanito08 (Post 336295)
Im running a 3" Front pipe, mid-pipe and dual exhaust... Im loving it :) no dynos yet

Dude you can't say this and not post pics of it all.

os86 07-24-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jet86 (Post 333450)
I've done a 3" 316L system with 3 straight through magnaflow mufflers and hks burnt muffler tips for my turbo setup. Will be jigging it soon for production.

please post it up on our aus section when completed . thanks

Juanito08 07-24-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda (Post 336323)
Dude you can't say this and not post pics of it all.

Here you go :)

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...0395162945.jpg
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...69911374_o.jpg

shu5892001 02-21-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PERRIN (Post 333462)
We will eventually have at least two exhaust systems to choose from, 3" being one of them. We designed and built it at the same time as the 2.5" system. Noise levels and price tell us the 2.5" one will be more popular so it will be available first then we'll move to the 3".

Any progress on the 3" exhaust?

FR-S Matt 02-21-2013 02:45 PM

Nameless has a 3" DP/OP they just tested. I've got their 3" Axleback on the way soon and hopefully a 3" resonated midpipe. Loud? Probably. Care? Nope. Already turbo ready when I want to later.

The Slow One 02-21-2013 03:07 PM

Ptuning is coming out with their exhaust system in a few weeks

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Tylub 02-21-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PERRIN (Post 333462)
We will eventually have at least two exhaust systems to choose from, 3" being one of them. We designed and built it at the same time as the 2.5" system. Noise levels and price tell us the 2.5" one will be more popular so it will be available first then we'll move to the 3".

any idea how much it would be compared to the 2.5 I have?
different design?
how much louder?
gains?
so many questions :happy0180:

psk 04-01-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tylub (Post 749299)
any idea how much it would be compared to the 2.5 I have?
different design?
how much louder?
gains?
so many questions :happy0180:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PERRIN (Post 333462)
We will eventually have at least two exhaust systems to choose from, 3" being one of them. We designed and built it at the same time as the 2.5" system. Noise levels and price tell us the 2.5" one will be more popular so it will be available first then we'll move to the 3".

any updates on the 3" exhaust? possible release date etc.

PERRIN 04-02-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by psk (Post 832537)
any updates on the 3" exhaust? possible release date etc.

Update? It's in the works, you will see more info coming this spring. :thumbup:

Patrick@Ptuning 04-04-2013 07:43 PM

We will be releasing our 3" exhaust pretty soon.

http://www.ptuning.com/graphics/ptun...ottom-view.jpg

Baramzisyan 01-22-2014 07:51 AM

bump! need full 3 inch exhaust from downpipe.

350matt 01-22-2014 10:59 AM

I think the forthcoming Cosworth system is 3" throughout

ptuning 01-22-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Baramzisyan (Post 1470408)
bump! need full 3 inch exhaust from downpipe.

Here's our PTUNING 3" T304 Stainless Steel Turbo-Back Dual Exhaust System:

http://www.ptuning.com/subdir/itemde...ModelDesc=FR-S

Baramzisyan 01-23-2014 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ptuning (Post 1470717)
Here's our PTUNING 3" T304 Stainless Steel Turbo-Back Dual Exhaust System:

http://www.ptuning.com/subdir/itemde...ModelDesc=FR-S

nice one!

h4nh 01-23-2014 01:36 PM

Well this isn't a production build, but it's a titanium 3" custom one off that's going on my car hopefully. Not complete yet but hopefully with in the next month or two.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7376/1...a0a4387a_c.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2894/1...730917ff_c.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2878/1...9d7092d3_c.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5525/1...97aa80de_c.jpg

MeFryRice 01-23-2014 08:06 PM

^^ That's a beautiful exhaust. A friend of mine has asked to build a titanium exhaust for my car.
@ptuning - Any sound clips?

h4nh 01-23-2014 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeFryRice (Post 1475196)
^^ That's a beautiful exhaust. A friend of mine has asked to build a titanium exhaust for my car.
@ptuning - Any sound clips?

Do it. It's super light and no worries about corrosion. :thumbsup:

Mrc@ptuning 01-24-2014 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MeFryRice (Post 1475196)
^^ That's a beautiful exhaust. A friend of mine has asked to build a titanium exhaust for my car.
@ptuning - Any sound clips?

Here's a few:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e0rJ90myR8&list=PL42057B14050EEA6B"]PTUNING FR-S/BRZ Dual Exhaust System - YouTube[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMdOy2nPe_s&list=PL42057B14050EEA6B"]PTUNING FRS BRZ DS-333 3" Turbo back Dual Muffler Exhaust System - YouTube[/ame]

h4nh 01-25-2014 10:29 PM


whoa this sounds like an exotic car! very nice!!! :thumbup:

kALMIGHTY 01-26-2014 01:23 AM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNolu_ZUpk&t=75"]Najtańszy sposób na sportowy wydech! | The cheapest racing exhaust in the world - YouTube[/ame]

Ryan@Nameless 01-30-2014 06:44 PM

^^ :lol:

We just released our full 3" headerback, you can find it here:

http://shop.namelessperformance.com/...-back-exhaust/

-Ryan @ Nameless

pepe 04-25-2014 07:48 PM

after this testing time .... They think that putting an exhaust pipe 3 "unused turbocharger. Losing power at low rpm?


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