Keyless remote replacement
 

Looks like I've already lost one of my keyless remote fobs for my BRZ Limited. I was looking on eBay and both the Avalon and the Camry have the same remote. Does anyone know if these would work? Is there anything special/different about BRZ's system (frequency?). Any idea on dealer price for a new remote? I'm guessing well over $200...:(

If I can buy a replacement from a Toyota on eBay for about $70 and get it programmed, that seems the way to go...

I lost one of my fobs for my nissan altima 2010 and the dealership was charging 280 to replace the fob, key, cut the key, and reprogram which is a total rip. So Im guessing for the BRZ they are going to charge about the same. Your better off buying the fob/key from ebay for like 60 bucks and get the reprograming for like 100

Just call up the dealership and ask I've found prices on both the remotes and programming them are all over the place for most cars. Since its a recent sale I'd go to your sales person first and see if they can get you a deal.

Don't expect programming to be cheap. This is for the most part a dealer only function so many will overcharge. For my honda I couldn't find a local dealer who would program it for less then $75.

I was recently doing some reading so I could use a flip key for my FR-S since they seem pretty neat... Anyway I could find any keys on e-bay that appeared to work with the FR-S (probably because it's too new), but I suppose there is a chance that one of those Toyota keys would have worked... Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that it may be possible for you to get a new key and program it yourself. I did a bunch of reading and the programming is the same for every Toyota. This is assuming that our wireless locking system is from Toyota and not Subaru... Which seems likely since the key is Toyota shaped. At least for my FR-S. I haven't seen the BRZ key.

So if you're brave enough to try to get a factory key and program it yourself then here is how it's supposed to work:

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...-existing.html

The BRZ/FRS/FT86 are all using Toyota's keyless entry, start, and immobilizer systems.

The link you provided seems to be the method for programming the keyless entry remote, but if you read all the way through the thread it looks like it doesn't program the key to work with the immobilizer (i.e. it will open the car but won't start it.).

As far as I know the only way to program the immobilizer is with Toyota tools like Techstream which is a great tool but you even with it you need a special "Security Professional" account to add/remove keys.

I'd love to add a 3rd fob for my BRZ cheaply so I'd be happy to be wrong about this. If anyone has other info let me know.

It cant be anymore exspensive for a toyota key then a VW. 385 each. I lost both keys between moving and winter storage and had to order 2 new keys, from germany, that cost me almost 800 dollars. Went to get the car out of storage and the storage manager said someone turned in the keys after they found them right outside my storage unit. I asked when did they turn them in and he said the day after i came in and asked. I changed my phone number so he couldnt get ahold of me. Had 4 keys for a car with 2 doors. DOH

Oh right. I didn't read the whole way through and though the OP had a regular key, not the push to start. Should work for the premium BRZs though yeah?

Wish I could find a key with the electronics that's supposed to work for our car... I don't make enough to just shell out the dough to buy a bunch to test them all. haha.

I doubt it will work. I did a lot of research on this with my Honda when i wanted a flip key and the general industry trend is to make it so only dealers and very well equipped and accredited locksmiths can program immobilizers.

I agree that we should be able to program a new key ourselves if we have an existing key. But with the latest generation of immobilizers it seems the manufacturers have a different way of thinking.

What a PITA. That's why I just ordered

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380453593849...84.m1497.l2649

It may not be as pretty of a solution as a legit key, but it's going to take the guts of my current key. Getting cut shouldn't be an issue and since it'll have my old key guts then compatibility won't be an issue. It's a shame though because there really were a couple of nice looking ones! :brokenheart:

Be aware some of these flip keys that reuse the guts many of them can be flakey or not work at all depending on the positioning of the transponder antenna in the new housing. Some work just fine some not at all. It depends on the key and the car. I know on Hondas these only work if you do a little mod soldering a wire on to extended the antenna loop.

And each dealership charges a lil different... The dealerships in the automall I work at charge 15% over list to customers and the customers don't know. I'm at a body shop sp we get a discount, but it comes off of the price they charge everyone, so it comes out being the real list price....

We only use the local dealers for emergency parts.

Oddly, they were being cool and didn't charge over charge use for an Altima key fob for a keyless car... Only $155 for the little key to be cut and programmed.



But I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to charge everyone else $280 for it.

I mean even if it's not the greatest thing ever then I'm only out like 12 bucks. It's a worthwhile risk. I have realistic hopes. :thumbsup:

The FCC ID of the transponder is HYQ14ACX. If the replacement key fob you're looking at has the same ID, AFAIK it should work.

At that price I totally agree. :)

let us know if that works! i always wanted a flip key...dunno why lol

got my flipkey today and swapped my electronics. home depot cut it for free! :P

the material and the build feels pretty sturdy to me. it's held together with screws. the little silver is a bit cheap as one half came off but i just superglued it back on. fitting my electronics into it was simply enough, however the lock and trunk button are just a tiny bit more recessed than the alarm or unlock button. not a huge deal as it still functions just fine. i'm fairly happy with it. something to make my car just a bit more unique. :D

a little more unique till we all steal your idea! haha

:P don't worry I got more plans ahead to unique-ify my car haha

just cracked open my extra key. is the transponder part of the circuit board with the buttons or was it seperate?

nope it's separate. it's not exactly obvious either. you'll actually have to cut into the key:

http://www.rav4world.com/forums/memb...e-rav4-key.jpg :eyebulge:

i wonder if i can hack up valet key and pull one out instead of ruining an actual key. i know the valet key will never get used.

I haven't done it with the BRZ key, but with most others... the transponder is a tiny chip. On one key, it was molded into the plastic, so I had to break it out and put it in a new shell.

On a Porsche key, it's held in with a spring.

But in most cases, the circuit board is separate...

i mean i guess you could... but you can also easily just buy a new regular key and put your components in there if you get tired of the flip key. i personally keep the valet key as my spare/original key and leave it safe somewhere with the original little silver tag thing. but that's just me! :bonk:

i received my flip key today! was able to pull the transponder out of the valet key, but i pretty much had to destroy it to do so. the flip key is very cheap and the plastic around the upper screw hold was chewed up a bit. that screw was also slightly stripped. was able to get everything back together for a test fit, but cannot take that screw back out. was gonna write a quick how to guide, but i ordered a different flip key off ebay instead. gonna wait till that shows up.

this is the new shell : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remote-Flip-...ef4bb2&vxp=mtr

and it has the added bonus of an autobot logo!

Just wanted to chime in here:

I lost one of my key fobs and I've tried 2 different key fobs without any luck. First one was from a Lexus KeyFob with the same FCC and IC number as the BRZ keyfob. I brought it to the dealership and they could only partially program it, they said something about the last 2 digits not being accepted while being reprogrammed.

Then after which I bought a used BRZ Keyfob and brought it back to the same dealership, this time around they said they could not get the key to be recognized by the system. Voltage on the battery works and the light on the Keyfob works, but the system did not want to recognize it.

I then had to do due diligence and brought it to another dealership to try to get it reprogramed there. But to no avail they could not program it.

Overall I spent the following:
1. $65 on the Lexus Key
2. $50 on the BRZ fob
3. $16 dollars for trying to program the Lexus Key, which I think is fair since the programming is $25, since they spent a good hour on something that wasnt a Subaru Part.
4. $0 dollars for trying to program the BRZ key fob twice.

Now I just caved in and ordered from http://www.fobkeyless.com/ for a brand new key at around $145. Not really highway robbery by the price the dealerships were trying to sell me a brand new key at $300 dollars.

So I'll be getting the key next week, and here's hoping that 3rd key is the charm.

Also, is it remotely possible that Ecutek flash could be preventing the keys from being programmed? PRobably not the case as I dont think those 2 systems are related

mechaghost, please update once you've received the key and program. I am in the same situation and don't want to waste money on keys that won't work.