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Veloist 01-12-2018 08:07 PM

Subaru OEM STI Pinks - Springs (USDM/North America)
 
OEM STI Pinks will be available for the USDM market for 2017-2018 BRZ's, but they are not designed to be used on BRZ Limited with Performance Package or the BRZ tS.

Subaru BRZ STI Performance Springs

Part Number: B2010CA000
STI springs are stiffer than stock springs and lower the vehicle's ride height by about 10mm. The lower center of gravity can reduce body roll and result in improved handling.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3030476)
Turns out these are most likely not compatible with the Sachs dampers of both the PP and tS. The ‘18 BRZ catalog states they are not applicable to these cars.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab576e66c5.jpg


Trueweltall 01-12-2018 08:10 PM

Ouch @ $399.

strat61caster 01-12-2018 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3027486)
Ouch @ $399.

price will come down when supply > demand, $340 here

https://www.oempartstoyou.com/oem-pa...-mt-b2010ca000

airjonny 01-12-2018 08:52 PM

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TachyonBomb 01-13-2018 03:55 PM

Don't the JDM STI springs have a 15mm or 16mm drop? These US market springs may be different if they are stating a 10mm drop.

SkyeHack 01-13-2018 07:44 PM

If I want to lower my tS a little lower, should I get the JDM STI springs that have a higher mm drop? Would it off balance the suspension geometry? I am trying to fix the fist size gap the US STI springs come with.

venturaII 01-13-2018 07:45 PM

If you're in Japan, why would you even bother trying to get USDM parts..??

SkyeHack 01-13-2018 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 3027819)
If you're in Japan, why would you even bother trying to get USDM parts..??

I'm stationed in Japan bro. I''l be back to the states very soon.

venturaII 01-13-2018 09:17 PM

That's nice, but it still doesn't answer my question.

spike021 01-14-2018 02:29 AM

Curious how well these would pair with the 2017 performance package Sachs dampers. I thought someone said the new tS or an older JDM version used the same Sachs. But maybe I'm wrong.

:iono:

SkyeHack 01-14-2018 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 3027854)
That's nice, but it still doesn't answer my question.

The US tS comes stock with the US STI springs. I don't mind getting the JDM STI springs for my US tS. I am just wondering if its a lower drop and if it will throw off the balance of the US tS?

Do I make sense now?

spike021 01-14-2018 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 3027854)
That's nice, but it still doesn't answer my question.

I think @SkyeHack means he's getting the USDM tS but is wondering if he should pick up the JDM Pinks before he leaves Japan since they have a greater drop than the USDM springs. But he doesn't know if that'll throw off the tune for the USDM suspension.

venturaII 01-14-2018 09:55 AM

It's not going to 'throw off the tune' or 'off balance the suspension geometry' any more than it would if installing JDM STi on any other version. In fact, there will probably be even less difference, and less reason to do so.

Vital 01-14-2018 10:43 AM

Im curious to see how well they pair up with the Showa dampers... I wish they lowered 15mm like the JDM STI Pink springs

mav1178 01-17-2018 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3027486)
Ouch @ $399.

For someone with a new car, that $399 can be (minimum) 1 year/12k miles warranty, and at least the shocks are covered for up to the 3 year base warranty.

Not bad for some lowering springs taking into account the warranty coverage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vital (Post 3027989)
Im curious to see how well they pair up with the Showa dampers... I wish they lowered 15mm like the JDM STI Pink springs

You can consider getting these:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120639

Clipdat 01-17-2018 06:56 PM

Does this mean they are finally going to release the spring rates of these??

nikitopo 01-17-2018 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 3029332)
Does this mean they are finally going to release the spring rates of these??

Don't even need to bother with these. The fronts are 9% stiffer and the rear are 6% stiffer. Very small change comparing to stock. Same for the drop. There are better alternatives or go for a quality damper/coilover kit.

Clipdat 01-17-2018 07:05 PM

RCE Yellows FTW then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 3029336)
Don't even need to bother with these. The fronts are 9% stiffer and the rear are 6% stiffer. Very small change comparing to stock. Same for the drop.


Mr.Impreza 01-18-2018 01:15 AM

My STI Pinks from Japan lowered the car 15mm. Not sure why they decided to go with only a 10mm drop since the 15mm drop is already barely even noticeable. In fact nobody notices except for me haha.

venturaII 01-18-2018 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3029324)



I'm desperately trying to figure out how to justify buying these with only ~45K miles on my car...

Veloist 01-19-2018 03:29 PM

Turns out these are not designed to be used with the Sachs dampers of both the PP and tS. The ‘18 BRZ catalog states they are not applicable to these cars.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab576e66c5.jpg

norcalpb 01-28-2018 01:59 PM

Will these fit 13-16 models?

Trueweltall 01-28-2018 06:16 PM

Yes.

stlgrym3 02-19-2018 04:14 AM

do these work with the oem shocks on a 2017 BRZ Limited auto?

Tcoat 02-19-2018 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlgrym3 (Post 3046306)
do these work with the oem shocks on a 2017 BRZ Limited auto?

Yes as long as not PP.

BaatLuk 03-27-2018 03:04 AM

Anyone know why these are "not applicable" to Limited with Performance Package? Are they not compatible with the Sachs dampers or Subaru America is just saying that for liability reasons?

jmark 03-27-2018 07:14 AM

Which springs are on the Ts?

BaatLuk 04-20-2018 03:56 AM

Anyone put these on the Sachs dampers yet? If so, how did they work out?

Vital 04-20-2018 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaatLuk (Post 3075123)
Anyone put these on the Sachs dampers yet? If so, how did they work out?

For some reason the ad says its not compatible with the PP suspension. Look at post #21 for the ad. Plus i doubt many people will be going for these as they only lower 10mm...

BaatLuk 04-21-2018 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vital (Post 3075184)
For some reason the ad says its not compatible with the PP suspension. Look at post #21 for the ad. Plus i doubt many people will be going for these as they only lower 10mm...

Yep the catalog says "not applicable to Limited with Performance Package", which is very puzzling.

People have paired various aftermarket lowering springs e.g. Eibach, JDM STI pinks that were originally designed for 2013-2016 stock shocks with their 2017+ PP Sachs dampers. I haven't heard of any fitment, handling, or ride quality issues with the Sachs dampers when paired with lowering springs.

I looked up several major lowering spring manufacturers Swift, Eibach, Racecomp, all of which list the same PNs for the BRZ throughout all production years with no differentiation for the Sachs dampers. In fact, I emailed Swift and they confirmed that their sport springs will fit and work with the Sachs dampers.

Also it's interesting that there is 2 part numbers for the USDM STI springs, one for MT and one for AT. Is it safe to assume that STI took their time to develop the springs and paid attention to detail? :iono:

If anyone could shed some light on this "not applicable" disclaimer in Subaru's accessories catalog, that would be very helpful and appreciated.

norcalpb 07-07-2018 08:52 PM

Has anyone had a chance to try these out yet?

gpvecchi 07-08-2018 05:32 AM

I have mine, but still waiting for my car to arrive...
EDIT: to be correct, I have the JDM, not the US, more lowering and compatible with PP...

JMon85 07-09-2018 11:32 AM

To confirm~~ these will fit a '15? =)

Vital 07-09-2018 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMon85 (Post 3108011)
To confirm~~ these will fit a '15? =)

Are you asking or telling? Yes, these will fit a 2015 manual and auto trans. as long as its not a PP or tS models

KoreanJesus 11-05-2018 02:12 AM

Just an opinion, but I’ve seen things like this before in OEM branded upgrade parts. The catalog probably states that they are not applicable to these cars because it’s what already is on the car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3030476)
Turns out these are not designed to be used with the Sachs dampers of both the PP and tS. The ‘18 BRZ catalog states they are not applicable to these cars.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab576e66c5.jpg



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