How to disable or turn off Smart Stop Tech ?!
 

hey guys.
i have a 2017 toyota 86 with manual transmission
and also my car has Smart Stop Technology
that is driving me crazy... i cant Burnout.i love burnout...but damn..
how can i do ?
i love this car...but that problem . :iono:.
even i sent a email to toyota
but this is their answer...
guys help me out... :bow:
thanks

I dont think brz comes with auto stop\start to save fuel.

I think you need to turn off traction controll to do burnouts.

With motor running press and hold the Traction button in centre console the one with squiggly lines on it. Press and hold it for 5 seconds then orange light on dash should iluminate. Then you can do burnouts

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...baru-brz-work/

thanks
when push the gas pedal and break
ecu after 3 sec reduced the speed and damn..the car stoped acceleration...
but i knnow that
track off
esp off
even i do the Pedal Dance
but still not working..

I'm reminded why I would never buy a second hand sports car.

TC off is only to ease start going in winter. After reaching some (rather low speed) it reengages. VSC also has rather low allowed slip angles before cutting in, allowing only very slight drifts.

Want more - do suggested hold-5-sec TC button which should be sufficient for burnouts. It's ABS on, and EBD on and e-diff on, but later two shouldn't interfere with burnouts. Or pedal dance. I doubt you did later correctly though, as with it only basic ABS remains, and to see if one has enabled it successfully can be seen by instrument dash indicators (btw, often reason to not enabling might be cold, not warmed up engine. but then again, one can see that by indicators). With 5-sec TC and/or pedal dance it should never do something like cutting engine power on slip.

Gotta do the pedal dance for burnouts as far as I know.

It is hilarious that they "documented" your email.

No issues doing a burnout if you press and hold the traction control button until both lights come on in the cluster.

The pedal dance should work too.

I've got to ask, have you done a burnout before? Do you know how to start one? These cars don't have a ton of torque or power, so if your only burnout to date is in a V8 American car or something, you're going to have to be a bit rougher than you're used to.

Of note: burnouts are incredibly rough on cars, especially ones designed to be as light and sporty as possible. They are especially rough when a drive thinks you should just hold the brake pedal half way, and just ease into it until the wheels start to spin. Awesome way to break stuff.

Wouldn't you?


hello mr Toyota

i have a 2017 toyota 86 with manual transmission
and also my car has Smart Stop Technology
that is driving me crazy... i cant Burnout.i love burnout...but damn..
how can i do ?
i love this car...but that problem
how I turn off please?





OH and it isn't "burnouts" he wants to do but brake stands. Make lots of smoke and burn up tires but no real purpose for them. If he does manage to do them the next post will be "I slide off road cuz these tires are no good".


EDIT: I guess the definition of what a burnout is has changed and I never kept up with the term. Apparently what used to be a brake stand (hold the car and spin the tires) is now a burnout. A real burnout (back in the day) did not use the brakes and the car would move forward while laying rubber. Oh well, now I know they are considered the same thing.

https://youtu.be/qzYjwb_FKxE

There is both!

Yep. That is what I found.

Yes and both require the IQ of a neutrino.

Well we would do 10 foot or so burnouts up to the tree when I was drag racing but there was a purpose for those.
Doing it in a parking lot with a bunch of vaping flat brims is a whole different level.

More instinctual than embedding a YouTube video on this forum at least.

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2.33 is a burn out! No brakes used.
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What are you talking about?
https://www.toyota.com/content/ebroc..._ebrochure.pdf

Well look at that! I never Knew about the SST. So did it just show up with the 17s?


I stand corrected.

I don't know, Supposedly the equipment list for my 16 FR-S m/t shows SST, but I can't remember it ever activating, I've *attempted* to heel toe and it revved while I was on the brake...But I also had the clutch in....

SST is supposed to cut fuel while braking and gas at the same time.

guys thanks for helping me..
i know how to burnout and also i know this car isnt good for burnout like V8 american muscle car.. i did that before with manual trans.like camaro,mustang,z370 and...
but i cant do it in this car.
you know.i go with pedal dance.i push the gas pedal and break lightly ,but ecu went to stop the car..
im angry... is there anyone knows how to off that damn tech?
i love this car..i can drift..but burnout is a wish to me..
SST = Smart stop technology >> when you push gas pedal and break at the same time, ecu goes to reduce the speed until the car stop.
help help

Oh, finally understand what you mean. And probably you want burning tires moving as little as possible, thus brake usage. What's wrong with doing donuts while drifting in circles?
BTW, i'm not that sure, that it's electronics that stop you. In most cars brakes are more powerful then engine (especially less powerful one then in american muscle cars). Tried simply brake less while being in lower gear?
LOL, spill some oil under rear tires.
I know that no SST stops my car, when i want to quick dry brakes after carwash and press brakes while going in 1st or 2nd for some heat in them. Resulting speed just depends on how i modulate brake & throttle pedals.

lol, that brought back a memory...in high school my buddies and I all worked at service stations (back before they were just gas stations)...if we got bored we'd spill some gas out on the ground and spin the rear wheels of our motorcycles in it. Plenty black smoke...pretty busy street, got a lot of 'you f*ckin idiots' looks. lol.
:bonk:

didn't the whole SST thing come about because of the runaway Prius thing a few years back?

Reading back over this I was intrigued by the Toyota response, particularly the bolded statement.

I could be paranoid however I suspect if you ever have a warranty claim this may come back and bite you in the ass.

Yeah try some tire shine on your rear rubber. That oughtta get things moving.

Gotta say I agree with you. Back in my old 350 Camaro days, we called that "power braking". Burnouts were done with no brake pedal, only raw power!!!

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More of an off shoot from autonomous cars.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...55&postcount=3

We all have the SST.

I haven't tried a brake stand but the brochure says it isn't activated if you hit the brake first and is only activate at speeds over 5 MPH. So maybe try this to trick the system- start the brake stand and when it starts to reduce power, if the speedometer says over 5mph, let off the gas but keep the brake down then hammer the throttle again.

:iono:

I don't know about you but that sounds like it takes 3 legs and my third leg isn't long enough to do that.

I have done a brake stand with my car once, and have seen others do it. Must be more perimeters to the SST then that.

Yep If his engine ever blows they are not going to cover under warranty now. They will probably deny anything power train related.

Time to turbo it!

hey guys
thanks for your time and discuss and share the information with us
i still have that problem
no one knows how to disable that ? any? even with OFT or ECUTEK?
i'm gonna thinking about sell this and buy a new.like subaru BRZ..or Engine Swap
i hate toyota with that Tech.this is a sport car.why the car needs the SST ?????

This is cheap RWD coupe with good handling, it's NOT sport car. Many of twins might be used in motorsports due that, but that still is minority. 9/10 may never see the track.
While i also among those that enjoy trackdays, SST also never had limited me in any way. Heck, without this thread i wouldn't even now about it. Somehow fail to see what's a big fuss about, and how having or not that feature, and made easier or not very specific and uncommon type of abuse that rarely if at all would be used in actual sport use may kill car's value.

Before selling your GT86 and buying a BRZ, you might want to ask the Subaru dealer if you can try to do a couple of burnouts first to test it out first.

There is a great likelihood that if the GT86 has it, the BRZ will have it too .

Neither did I, one can learn a lot form these forums! :D

absolutely you're right.i agree with you
but because i love burning tires and smoke , i love this car,before i bought it, that was my wish to have it.
i like the handling and sound the engine and the Manual trans oh god,it is really good .. more
my friends have GT86 and BRZ
they havent that problem.i think i'm unlucky
Thank you so much guys
:drinking:

Pouria: and in opposite there are things in MY2017 gt86 i'd gladly exchange mine for :P
Improved VSC, cheaper AC refills, strenghtened engine internals, improved & more comfortable stock suspension, improved intake airbox & exhaust headers, better stock tune, imho nicer ratio FD. That all to me sounds much better then SST, that impacts some very brief & very specific (ab)use, while those enhanced things one can enjoy all the other use/driving/owning time.

This isn’t a burnout car, you should enjoy it for what it is... a cheap sports car.
Maybe the 86/BRZ isn’t for you, burnouts are pointless man and are only cool in a muscle car in my opinion. A 2ltr na burnout is kind of wack.

I'd call that a rolling burnout.

Can we fling poo at OP now? This has gone on for far too many pages already.

it is definitely a sports car...never heard anyone besides you say that? light, rwd, light on creature comforts. not a convertible but thats ok in my book.

Decep: you know .. here i've seen used in motorsports, track & rally, cars that don't fit your description way more often, then ones that do.
Golfs, pumas, fiestas, audi-s, sierras, astras, civics, escorts, corollas, old russian lada-s, some bmw-s, imprezas, evos, volvos. Often 3/5rd of them FWD, RWD being usually <1/6th, rest AWD, most often being initially normal family compact or full size cars, ones that are dual-used, often with full stock standard comfort features.
In sport even east germany trabant can be used. That won't make it sport car as manufacturer intended designing it. I may accept that something like CS-R3 twin IS sport car, but not original twins that oversell those actually real sport cars by three orders larger numbers.
You can use one in motorsports, you can modify one in specialised sport car, it may do better then many others .. but by far it's NOT sportcar. Cheap RWD coupe with relatively good handling, as toyobaru designed it and as most are buying it. I'm not sure that even 1/10 had ever been taken to track. Most are just simply daily driven & used/chosen in role as i described.

I truly think this is operator error in the end of things. To say doing a burnout in this car is "whack" is pretty idiotic. It's a rwd sporty car. Anything doing a burnout is decent!

By the definition of sports car, it's a sports car.

BRZ is the same bloody car with all the same equipment.
Even if you manage to bypass the SST you will still have to deal with the LSD trying to even out the traction unless you can manage to have both rear wheels spinning exactly the same speed.
Go buy a Mustang.