2018 Car Configurator Live- No PP listed
 

2018 86 configurator is up, but there is no performance pack listed. I am disappointed tbh. Not sure if I settle for a regular GT or go for a BRZ instead. :sigh:

https://www.toyota.com/86/

I would not be surprised if they are holding back the PP for another "special edition."

That's looks to be a good machine ....... but, I'm still not seeing anything that would tempt me to trade in my 2013 ...;)


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I'll also note that Hot Lava is missing.

Wish they could've given us new interior pics at least.

If you build a GT, you can click on "view larger images" at the top of the page and you can see some pics of the interior.

On the plus-side, that steel color is pretty nice.

Ya. They told us a while back that Lava was going away.

No PP, disappointed. Not even really worth buying, you can already find 860's for cheaper than new base 86 if you want the upscale bits, or just get a used 2017 86 if you don't want the upscale bits. I also noted they finally pulled the TRD intake off of the accessories, it was still there for the 2017 configurator, despite not being compatible with the car.

man, hot lava is like THE 86 color though...

http://i64.tinypic.com/2u9r9dy.jpg

I mean, COME ON!!

(mini cars? or giant people? YOU decide)

I personally hate hot lava and think it's a disgusting color. I won't miss it, but I suppose you're right. The only color that the FR-S/86 never got from the BRZ was WRB, and the only color the BRZ never got was hot lava, not counting special editions like the RS2.0 or Series.Yellow/HyperBlue

Completely worth buying a new one.
Should nobody buy a BRZ Premium either?
Limited is crap unless it has PP?
Everybody that buys one should want PP?
You do realize they have to sell new ones to somebody or there will be no used ones right?

Of course I do, that's why I'm the future 4th owner of a 2014 Shelby GT500, let the rich and unwise make the big purchase, and pick up the cheap used purchase down the road.

First of all, the PP is an absolute freaking bargain, a steal even, for $1200 you get a BBK that's probably valued at closer to $3k (based on similar kits put together or sold from Brembo for our cars), not to mention the wider wheels that clear the brakes, and the shocks. You're looking at a $1200 package for $4k+ worth of equipment.

IF you step up to a Limited BRZ, I see absolutely no reason NOT to get the PP.

The BRZ Premium is totally worth it. My car is basically a BRZ Premium, it's base model/basic af, and includes none of the extras that people like me don't want from the Limited/GT. I'm just saying, IF you want that stuff, you might want the PP too, and that makes the BRZ the better option, if you want that stuff. If you don't want that stuff, it's really a wash between the BRZ Premium and base 86, depending on what accessories you want, which bumper, which spring rates, which touch screen.

Now the BRZ gets CarPlay too, which puts the 86 at an even greater disadvantage thanks to Toyota's tremendously questionable decision to continue to push their own crappy infotainment system and deny buyers Android Auto/Apple CarPlay across their Toyota and Lexus lines. A decision like that is sure to ruin sales figures.

The rich and foolish eh?

Can't wait to see you sing the blues about how bad your car had depreciated when you go to sell it.

They make the different trim levels and people will buy them.

Is “Steel” new for 2018? “Thunder” certainly seems to be new, it looks like a lighter (non metallic?) version of the previous model years (and still available) “Asphalt”. Will be curious to see it in person.

Same, I wanted as pure & basic bare bones a model I could find. If there was a “radio, AC, backseat, power windows, etc.” *delete* option I would’ve chose that route too. :)

Steel has been out a couple of years. Don't see many of them though.
http://www.toyotareference.com/charts/FR13.png

I didn’t buy my car to sell it. I bought it to keep it and build on it for as long as I can. I even totaled it then bought it back for $1700 if you check my build thread. I’m not worried about depreciation on a car like this, but I’ll pick something like a GT500 up later on.

In Japan there is such a thing! :bellyroll:

nope, BRZ PP is best value / overall currently

See that is just it. You are stating all of what you wanted or did as the best practices and everybody else as foolish. The majority of these cars are bought by average people that will trade them in for something new in a few years that does not make them either rich or foolish.
Because you think it is the best doesn't mean everybody else has to as well.
I personally think anybody that trys to fix a totaled car is a dreamer that will fail but that doesn't make me right.

It is a great deal and a no brainier IF you want PP and a Limited BRZ. For all that extra money that most will not use it is not such a great choice.

My 2015 is Steel. I think I've only seen one other. Mind you, I don't see many twins around.

Jesus what a lame selection of colors, red, blue, black, gray, grey, gray, and white. My one regret in buying this car in 2012 was not realizing how lame another gray car is, I should have gotten a lava and if I had to replace my car I'd get a lava FRS with no extra crap even if I had to fly across the country to pick it up.

disagree, the 'performance parts' are all show and no go, if you like HID and "amenities" The BRZ certainly edged out the 86 last I looked, but idgaf about that.

Not sure when steel was first offered... maybe just new to me? They definitely didn't have it back in 2012 or I would have considered it :)

IIRC, Steel replaced Argento in MY15.

Even though I'm not a huge fan on Lava personally I wish they kept it because it really did seem like the 'trademark' 86 color.

But now that MF Ghost is out maybe Firestorm/Ablaze will be the iconic 86 color?

How is wider wheels, bigger brakes, and performance shocks “all show and no go”? PP is the performance pack which adds some good stuff, at least when you consider that it’s only $1200.

As far as color options, I hate the selection. We need matte black like on the GR-HV concept, we need a lime green, we need the Series.Yellow yellow. Subaru should throw in Hyper Blue and/or the orange that the Crosstreks get. An attractive sports car like ours deserves flashy colors.

Matt black would be a dumbass colour on these. People can hardly see them as it is.

I'd rather put that money towards lighter wheels than those 17x7.5, or wider, or better brake pads, or better tires or lowering springs, and the Sachs dampers show up for chump change every few weeks if you keep an eye out. Take that $1.2k, spend $500 on tires, $450 on brake pads and fluid, and $200 on camber bolts and an alignment and you'll have a base model car that will outrun a showroom PP at the track all day long without brake fade. All of those are mods you'd STILL want to make to a PP to be reliable at the track, so the base model will be faster and >$1k cheaper to prep for the track to equivalent performance. If you want to go faster than a base model, the PP doesn't offer any significant advantage, it's the same tires, the brakes are still prone to fade, and the base dampers are pretty damn great for driving hard already.

If you care about the "go" that $1.2k can go a long way if you know what you're looking for. A set of adjustable Konis or Bilsteins with 100k mile warranty with lowering springs or entry level coilovers, a set of lightweight 17x9 wheels, a header and tune, pretty much the only thing the PP offers that isn't really matched by the aftermarket is a cool looking set of brake calipers that are reliable. But a set of good pads in the stock calipers and a fluid flush will hold up to any abuse thrown at it for just a couple hundred bucks.

Just my 2 cents, I don't like HID's so the BRZ isn't ever an option for me, even if it was, no interest in the PP (besides, finding good pads for those calipers is a bit of a pain, but the info is trickling out on the right size)

Cheers on the color options though, I'd love to have a green FRS.

Haha reason why main chara of MF Ghost have red 86 is, cuz shigeno own red 86. He always make the cars he own as main charas car (to certain degree). Just like Ini-D, he owns AE86 and GC8 (in panda and WRB), so Takumi and Bunta drove those cars lol

As someone who had a 2013 FR-S and went to a 2017 BRZ w/ PP. I can vouch that the Brembos did make a world of difference on track compared to stock rotors + pads I had in the FR-S. Granted these are OEM-level Brembo performance brakes -- but my FR-S brakes would start to fade even after a spirited touge run, whereas the Brembos still gave me confidence when I stomped on them on track.

I would vaguely say that the Sachs dampers are a slight improvement than my '13 (from what I recall before mods) -- very compliant on rough roads, which is probably what the engineers intended.

Don't care too much for the 17x7.5 wheel. It's only wider in order to clear the Brembos I guess.

... and yes these cars deserve to be in flashy colors ;)

https://i.imgur.com/JiOYCef.jpg

I completely agree. Replacing hot lava with thunder was a terrible idea. Now of course I am biased having a hot lava 86, but why on earth did they think we needed another shade of gray? The monochromatic color choices of black, dark gray, silver, light gray, and white actually outnumber the other colors (red, blue) 5 to 2. Haven't these designers ever opened a box of crayons before? If they replaced one flashy color with another, so be it, but the gray thing was already covered. And I personally agree with the other poster who said this car deserves a flashy color to begin with. For example, I like how the Dodge Challenger uses some flashy colors that you just don't see other places. I'm not sure I would choose lime green or purple, but at least I notice them go by unlike the mass of mononchromatic blacks grays and white that 90% of cars have.

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Money talks, they build what sells and too many people buying a new car value safe choices and resale value. It's understandable, just a damn shame we're in that phase of design now, things are shifting, in a few years I think we'll start seeing interesting colors again but it's a hell of a draught right now.

maybe they're trying to spruce up brz sales with their better color selection? tbf i like thunder even though i was expecting yellow

So it’s a dumbass color on the LFA too? I’d get a matte black 86, have you even seen the GR-HV? It looks amazing with that color.

Thunder =\= lightning

Grab a bucket of Plasti-Dip and go wild.

The LFA came in matte black for one single car. Did you know the GR-HV isn't a production vehicle, so it doesn't matter what colour it comes in?

Clearly it's not a production vehicle, I was saying look how good it looks in that color. The LFA came in matte black for several cars, just 3/50 Nurburgring cars were matte black, that doesn't account for the 450 other non-Nurburgring LFA's. Face it, sports cars look amazing in matte black, the cars that do have the color as an option, people get it because it looks fantastic. Anyways, it'd make for a better selection of colors than what we have now. If you don't like matte black, don't get it, but don't try to tell me that color wouldn't be a hot seller.

The thing with that is it just doesn't look the same, the color has no depth. There's pictures of our cars plastidipped matte black, it's just not the same as a true paint job.

That was me!

I think we should get three colors from Subaru, their orange off the Crosstrek, their Hyper Blue, and the yellow from the Series.Yellow. Then we can get matte black and lime green, I've seen the two colors get wrapped or plastidipped and it looks okay, but a true paint job would make it look even better. Or if you have like a game with our cars in it, try it out and you'll see that it actually looks pretty damn good.

You're wrong. Matte black is cool to teenagers, but there's a reason you only generally see shit box ricer cars in matte black, and it's definitely not because it's an awesome colour :thumbsup:

Oh, so you're one of those types. Knock someone's tastes and blame it on an age difference?

Anyways, maybe you should buy a Lexus, because I don't know if you know this, but our cars are literally marketed to younger people.

I don't know about you, but I don't exactly see a lot of 20 year olds running around with Lambos, yet plenty of them are matte black. But it must not be an issue to you when it's a $250k car vs. a $25k car? So if matte black isn't cool then black isn't either? You do realize both are still black, right?