New suspension suggestion/pricing
 

So I plan on getting new suspension for my 2013 Scion FR-S, what would be the best suspension for about $700. Also for installing, what price is reasonable in your opinion.

Welcome to the forum.


"Best Suspension" for what? Street driving? AutoX? Drifting? Because different setups will work "best" for each category...


There is tons of great info in the suspension section.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=59




I went with Eibach Pro Kit springs. They work well with stock shocks, are inexpensive ($239), and there is a great DIY (in in the DIY section) that was easy to follow. I DD my car. The springs lowered my car a modest 7/8" and are only slightly stiffer. I like them.


Good Luck!

Yes it is for street driving. Would just regular springs be sufficient, or would going with coilovers be better. I would like to lower my car, but don't know the exact measurements. Is there a thread with all the height sizing measurements?

RCE Yellow springs get great reviews.

I don't believe there is a singular thread that has all the springs and their respective drops, but the info is readily available on the websites.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8739

I went Hotchkis, spring rates are good for daily driving, and mountain drives.

If just looking for a simple drop then some lowering spring are probably a more cost effective purchase than cheap coil overs. I have the RSR Superdown springs and am very happy with them. At under $300 they are a much better bet than coilovers.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/rs-r...l#.WiXpc0qnGUk

I've never tried coilovers, but in my experience I would avoid just springs, get struts while you're at it. Lowered cars with stock struts (yes even eibach pro kits) never feel quite right.

For $700, Tein Flex Z can’t be beat. Install is super easy too.

In my opinion they can be beat for $0. Keep OEM. It's likely better.

There, I fixed it for you.:cheers:

Seriously, he has a budget of $700, and may not know how to install the springs/shocks himself. Sure, it is nice to replace shocks at the same time, but the rce, trd, & other springs are proven to work well. The billstein b8 shocks are $900!!!

Lowered cars with quality springs and stock struts feel just like lowered cars on coil overs. Lowered cars on cheap coil overs feel worse.

TRD Lowering spring, They are re branded Eibachs and can be had for close to $250 and you can use the stock struts. I think they are best bang for the buck IMHO.

Yeah, i get it, but better to spend the money now and do it right imo, especially on the suspension on this particular car.

Again, just my 2 cents. I've never lowered one of these cars but i've lowered Hondas and Mercedes in the past (never a lot, 1-2 inches), they always have that underdamped, slightly bouncy feel right afterwards and its only downhill from there. I'd end up doing the work again later replacing the struts with a shorter stroke strut/shock. If the stock struts on the FT86 are that much stronger than other cars go ahead and tell me im talking out my ass, i wont get offended :bonk::D

I can tell you that for DD, the eibach springs (TRD springs are made by eibach) work with stock shocks. And are a great way to decrees the wheel gap without sacrificing ride quality or performance. I chose to pair the eibach springs with stock shocks because of the many positive reviews in the suspension section. They still feel good after 65,000 miles too.

You are talking out of your ass (you said it was OK). Spring with the proper rates for the stock struts do not show those symptoms on these cars. The trick is to buys something designed specifically for the car though. If you cheap out then you may have issues. Going with a cheap set of coil overs will end up being a bigger problem than lowering springs on these cars would ever be.

Interesting couple of question:

1. How long did you drive the car before fitting the springs.
2. How much did it lower your car.
3. How do you feel it affected the DD riding of the car as opposed to stock spring.

I know that ride quality is somewhat subjective and after a while of driving in a lowered car you adapt. However based on your posts and annual mileage I would suspect we have the same preferences when it comes to lowering the vehicle.

I like the slightly lower look but prefer the stock spring rates etc for normal commute and DD driving . Have no intention of racing the car, might pop into a couple of auto cross events but that would be no more than a couple of times. (I'm too old to care that some millennial+ is faster round a track)

Here you go. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73739


I will add that after riding around in Ultra's car for several days mine has an ever so slightly rougher ride. Not much but it is there.

I've been a fan of RS*R in the past but you don't hear much about them with this platform.

I just had a dig and it looks like they do different rates for each model?
The spring rates F3.2kg/R4.5kg for the 86 and F3.2kg/R3.9kg for the BRZ.

Very interesting.

Ok, I think my descion is going with the SCION FR-S SUPERDOWN SUS SPRINGS 2013-2016. I have one more question, what are the pros and cons of having your suspension at a different height from the rear and front, because this suspension allows you to do so. http://www.rs-r.com/product/scion-fr...-springs-2013/

It is a very small difference. Just balances it out visually.

What's wrong with the suspension that you have now?

Weight balance will shift a bit, based on the different heights. Aero balance as well, but I doubt you will ever notice it.

How many miles on your OEM shocks?

- Andrew

Also do you really really absolutely must have that "super"down of more then inch drop? Why not a bit more reasonable drop w/o altering suspension geometry that much?

The .4 and .2 extra drop really don’t change anything much. This is especially true for a street driven car where you are not trying to tune suspension to lose a hundredth of a second on your lap time. I bet 99.999% of the drivers on the road will not ever be able to tell the difference.

Hey Racecomp,

Which of these look better to you?
It looks like they are trying to maintain the characteristics of the stock cars?

86 version
Front - 3.2kg
Rear - 4.5kg

BRZ version
Front - 3.2kg
Rear - 3.9kg

RCE Yellows, crash/camber bolts, and a good alignment.
Keep the change and call it a day.

Tein Flex Z would be a solid contender. Easy to install and offers a good range of adjustability. The benefit of going with a good coilover is that they have matched the damping and springs to provide a good quality ride. Just adding lowering springs can make the car ride and handle like junk

Whichever one lowers the car less.

- Andrew