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milkydude12 11-30-2017 12:24 AM

Toyota 86 2017 special edition HAC (Hill Assist Control)
 
Hi, does anyone know how to turn hill assist control on?
https://i.imgur.com/NzMKzCy.png
according to the toyota website for the 2017 models it should be enableable... I've tried looking through the settings and I can't seem to figure how to turn it on :/

GhostRai 11-30-2017 12:54 AM

Hillstart assist is also off by default. To turn it on:
- Park car in a flat location
- stop the engine
- start the engine and check that the ABS warning light and slip indicator are off
- Press and hold the "Traction-off" button (leftmost button that looks like car with skidmark and the word "off" at the bottom) for 30 seconds. Both VSC and Traction Control off indicator should illuminate and then turn off.
- Within 5 seconds after the indicator lights turn off, release the "Traction-off" button, then press the switch again within 2 seconds of releasing it.
- The hill start assist ON indicator will illuminate and then turn off.
- Turn the engine off, then restart the engine
- If done correctly the hill start assist ON indicator should now be illuminated.

You can find the original post here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...90#post2767390

sunami88 11-30-2017 02:17 AM

I still have no idea why this is disabled by default. I love this feature on my Dad's '08 Mini, and wish my '16 had it...

humfrz 11-30-2017 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunami88 (Post 3010999)
I still have no idea why this is disabled by default. I love this feature on my Dad's '08 Mini, and wish my '16 had it...

Maybe, because the Mini needs all the help it can get to get over hills .....??


:D


humfrz

Spuds 11-30-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3011065)
Maybe, because the Mini needs all the help it can get to get over hills .....??

:D

humfrz

You sure know a lot about needing assistance getting over hills...

:cheers:

humfrz 11-30-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3011117)
You sure know a lot about needing assistance getting over hills...

:cheers:

Yep, fer sure ........ and climbing Mt Rainier gets tougher each year ...... :sigh:


humfrz

Tokay444 11-30-2017 04:53 PM

What I'd really like, is to bale to hold the unlock button on the FOB, and have both widows roll down automatically.

Northern_18 11-30-2017 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3011167)
What I'd really like, is to bale to hold the unlock button on the FOB, and have both widows roll down automatically.

That would be cool to have. My old 2003 golf had that feature.

Darth Khan 11-30-2017 09:38 PM

Does anyone ever read the owners manual?

humfrz 11-30-2017 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Khan (Post 3011254)
Does anyone ever read the owners manual?

It didn't come in a LARGE PRINT version ........ so,...... no.


;)


humfrz

Tokay444 12-01-2017 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Khan (Post 3011254)
Does anyone ever read the owners manual?

I did. It didn't mention being able to program the fob to roll the windows down.

JoeyBareBones 12-01-2017 04:43 PM

My BRZ is my first manual transmission vehicle and I hate hill assist. Can't feel the clutch engage when hill assist is doing it's thing.

Decep 12-01-2017 11:14 PM

So hows this work? Just automatically actuates the rear brakes?

Tcoat 12-01-2017 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Khan (Post 3011254)
Does anyone ever read the owners manual?

Not sure the manual says much on it.

Gotta love the first point on page 262.

https://view.joomag.com/subaru-brz-m...58858?page=263

Darth Khan 12-04-2017 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3011720)
Not sure the manual says much on it.

Gotta love the first point on page 262.

https://view.joomag.com/subaru-brz-m...58858?page=263

It's on page 191 of the manual I got with my 860.

For those interested here is the link.

Toyota 86 Owners Manaul

I'm all for helping people find information but if you spend 25-30k on a vehicle buy a 2 dollar coffer sit down and read the manual. At the very least scan the table of contents so you have an overview of the primary features.

Tcoat 12-04-2017 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Khan (Post 3012260)
It's on page 191 of the manual I got with my 860.

For those interested here is the link.

Toyota 86 Owners Manaul

I'm all for helping people find information but if you spend 25-30k on a vehicle buy a 2 dollar coffer sit down and read the manual. At the very least scan the table of contents so you have an overview of the primary features.

You missed the implied sarcasm. There are 4 pages talking about the assist in the manual.
Everybody should read the manual for anything they buy but it is especially important with cars. There is a lot of cool stuff in there.

Darth Khan 12-04-2017 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3012261)
You missed the implied sarcasm. There are 4 pages talking about the assist in the manual.
Everybody should read the manual for anything they buy but it is especially important with cars. There is a lot of cool stuff in there.

Yea your right I missed it, it's early on a Monday can I be excused?

Tcoat 12-04-2017 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Khan (Post 3012262)
Yea your right I missed it, it's early on a Monday can I be excused?

Just this once. Never let it happen again.

milkydude12 12-05-2017 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostRai (Post 3010976)
Hillstart assist is also off by default. To turn it on:
- Park car in a flat location
- stop the engine
- start the engine and check that the ABS warning light and slip indicator are off
- Press and hold the "Traction-off" button (leftmost button that looks like car with skidmark and the word "off" at the bottom) for 30 seconds. Both VSC and Traction Control off indicator should illuminate and then turn off.
- Within 5 seconds after the indicator lights turn off, release the "Traction-off" button, then press the switch again within 2 seconds of releasing it.
- The hill start assist ON indicator will illuminate and then turn off.
- Turn the engine off, then restart the engine
- If done correctly the hill start assist ON indicator should now be illuminated.

You can find the original post here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...90#post2767390

Thanks for the reply!! Ill try this tomorrow (I haven't been checking this thread because I forgot to click on get email notifications XD)

Isopher 12-05-2017 12:49 PM

So am I the only one who read the manual 2-3 times while waiting for my car to be delivered?

For me, there are far too many idiots in automatic transmissions that sit 2 inches off my bumper at a light. The extra peace of mind that i wont roll back into them as much is nice. Even if i don't technically need it.

To OP: Hill Start Assist wont actually help you get started on a hill, just give you a bit more time before you roll backwards. You will still stall if you let out the clutch wrong, and you will start to roll as soon as clutch engagement starts (this includes backwards if you are too timid once engagement starts).

chaoskaze 12-05-2017 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3011123)
Yep, fer sure ........ and climbing Mt Rainier gets tougher each year ...... :sigh:


humfrz

You go Humfrz :party0030:

Tokay444 12-05-2017 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isopher (Post 3012827)
So am I the only one who read the manual 2-3 times while waiting for my car to be delivered?

For me, there are far too many idiots in automatic transmissions that sit 2 inches off my bumper at a light. The extra peace of mind that i wont roll back into them as much is nice. Even if i don't technically need it.

To OP: Hill Start Assist wont actually help you get started on a hill, just give you a bit more time before you roll backwards. You will still stall if you let out the clutch wrong, and you will start to roll as soon as clutch engagement starts (this includes backwards if you are too timid once engagement starts).

Nope.
Roll back into them. They'll learn.

Decep 12-05-2017 07:17 PM

im amazed people still do that in san francisco of all places, even on those ridiculously steep hills where even an automatic will roll backwards.

EdBoy 12-06-2017 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3012878)
Nope.
Roll back into them. They'll learn.

haha, I like this idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3012983)
im amazed people still do that in san francisco of all places, even on those ridiculously steep hills where even an automatic will roll backwards.

I know right, then again majority of the cars everytime i visit sf aren't the best shape exterior wise from bumps, scrapes and scratches.

NOHOME 12-06-2017 05:21 PM

I had no idea this was a thing on these cars.

I thought this place WAS the manual.

RedFRS4me 12-11-2017 07:20 PM

just use the e-brake?

humfrz 12-11-2017 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFRS4me (Post 3015316)
just use the e-brake?

That is sooooo old school ....... :rolleyes:


:D


humfrz

Summerwolf 12-11-2017 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFRS4me (Post 3015316)
just use the e-brake?

Hill start and ebrake are not needed if you know how to drive a stick shift.:lol:

TorontoNat 12-12-2017 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3015346)
Hill start and ebrake are not needed if you know how to drive a stick shift.:lol:

For real. Also a tiny bit of rollback is fine no one's judging you ppl don't even know manual cars exist anymore. Even the other way around.. a tiny bit of wheel spin is ok also... This hurts your clutch less than slipping it to hold yourself on a hill like a "good driver" anyway.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 12-12-2017 09:57 AM

I like the hill assist. It only kicks in on super steep hills and I appreciate it. Don't have to rev as high, no fuss, no rollback. Just forward motion

Summerwolf 12-12-2017 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorontoNat (Post 3015469)
For real. Also a tiny bit of rollback is fine no one's judging you ppl don't even know manual cars exist anymore. Even the other way around.. a tiny bit of wheel spin is ok also... This hurts your clutch less than slipping it to hold yourself on a hill like a "good driver" anyway.

Good drivers don't hold a hill by using the clutch....

TorontoNat 12-12-2017 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3015529)
Good drivers don't hold a hill by using the clutch....

Hence the Quotations. Thank you for clarifying this.

RedFRS4me 12-12-2017 11:10 PM

hill assist helps if an asshole is parked up your butt on a steep hill. i'd much rather not let it roll back or burn the clutch so it's actually helpful. I have it on my lexus which is great in stupid cities like downtown san fran. I personally use the ebrake which works the same. no roll back and easy to use. and it's mechanical so I have full control. nothing wrong using it in a way that it works. those of you who say you don't need it probably live on a pancake and not in terrible cities with hills.


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