What is considered stage 2?
 

I come from the VW GTI world, and I just want to know what qualifies as stage 2 in the BRZ world. Me and my series.yellow BRZerker have plans... :)

Thanks.

The way I see it is that

Stage 1 - Stock everything with just a tune. ie....just a tune
Stage 2 - Intake/Header/Downpipe mods and a tune
Stage 3 - FI or redoing your stock FI setup.

To put it into APR/VW terms

Stage 1 - Tune
Stage 2 - Intake/Downpipe and Tune
Stage 3 - K04/GT25/GT27/GT30 (or GTX) and tune

Source: owned a mk4 gti and mk6 gti

Feeling her up. Oh wait, that was 2nd base.

Can I consider just an UEL header stage 2 for tuning purposes? Also, I haven't tried yet, but it seems installing a decent air intake on this car is more of a nuisance than my old GTI.

What's a "decent air intake"?
One with more colors and swoopy curlicues?

They already come stock with tuned CAI

stage 2 means catless and tuned. A catted aftermarket header is still stage 1. I have heard of people going on a stage 2 tune and deleting the header cat while keeping the FP cat, but I don't know the long term effects or the power loss there is. The cat in the header is the one that has to go. The intake is less important, same with the catback system- there's some gains to be made there, but not a lot.

Since the twins have a header stock and not a log type manifold, there's little gain to be made with an aftermarket header with a HFC. To make the big gains N/A you have to go catless and/or E85

I think that people are trying to force a definition where there really isn't one. Not convinced there is a true "stage two" for these cars so all you will get are what people did for their own first major changes. There are certainly some stage twos for some of the turbo kits but those are specific to the kit and not to a level of modding.
Asking "what is stage two" is just another way of saying "what should I change first" and there are hundreds of different opinions on that.

Stage 1: minimum amount of garbage you can sell
Stage 2: add more garbage that you can claim it is better
Stage 3: add even more garbage that you can claim it is even better

With a force induction setup stage 2 generally means adding an intercooler.

In all other aspect it doesn't mean much imho.

Depends on which video game you're playing.

Stages 1-3 are shown below. Hope this helps.




https://manimeconquest.files.wordpre...s1-3.png?w=640

It would appear that stage 3 only applies to halo cars.

OP since you have a Subaru.

Stage 2 - Intake/Header/Downpipe mods and a vape

This is the best answer. It was basically the same in the GTI world, except for the turbo.

I pretty much already knew my answer, I just wanted to hear the community opinion. Thanks guys, brb gonna go vape.

https://static.carthrottle.com/works...6831f01d17.jpg




And don't forget your hat!




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Stage 2 means the breast cancer is growing, but it is still contained in the breast or growth has only extended to the nearby lymph nodes.

Actually, cancer isn't a bad analogy for some of the crap people have done to their cars.

Even if there was an answer to this question, why would it matter?

Stage 2 in my mind includes a tougher clutch, the rest can vary from engine mods to suspension and drivetrain mods.

Doesn't have to have spread to the sclav nodes. It can also just be a larger mass without nodal involvement.

That is an excellent question. It matters because he wants to be part of the community. You can't be part of the community if you don't speak the language. Different communities develop different vocabularies, expressions, dialects and even entire languages to help quickly and easily identify friends and exclude outsiders.

When I worked in a Big Four accounting firm, we not only had our own vocabulary, there was actually a dictionary on the company intranet for new hires so they would be able to follow the conversations. Using the wrong term or using it incorrectly immediately identified you as either an outsider or a new hire. Using the right terms told everyone you were a team player and were committed to the company cause.

When I worked in the film industry, we had our own names for equipment that were different from what the manufacturers called them. A "junior to baby adapter" was a "buttplug." A "friction knob" was a "knuckle." If you walked on a set and used the wrong terms, you were pegged as someone who was inexperienced and couldn't be counted on to know what you were doing.

Any specialized community is going to do this. The Jeep community has its own vocabulary. Motorcyclists do also. As do attorneys. As do police officers. As do snowboarders, sailors, restaurant workers, prisoners, military, black, white, Asian, hispanic, southerners, northerners, midwesterners, you name it.

So he's seeing terms some folks use here to exclude outsiders, but he doesn't want to be an outsider. So he's asking what they mean here. Better to do that than misspeak and make a fool of oneself.

if youre planning FI...just wait and do that. otherwise N/A gains on this car are pretty well maxed out with e85/catless header/full catless exhaust/a filter and intake elbow.

I never realized car guys had such strict standards, LOL. All these years, and no one has ever called me out for an improper term.:happyanim:

i can appreciate that but it isnt how he phrased his question. a lexicon for the community would be helpful and im sure browsing would find you plenty information. he asked what stage 2 was witch already alienates him. i dont mean to be rude. i think its great that people are still buying a car like this. i just dont see why the name of what something is, is more important than what the something actually is.

Stage 1: flip your air cleaner lid upside down and put glasspacks on it

Stage 2: Holley double pumper and headers

Stage 3: popup pistons and 3/4 cam

Stage 2 is any part of the rocket that is designed to fire after the first stage is spent. Usually T plus 90-120 seconds.

I don't know. I think he rebounded well.
It is the guys that tried (and will try) to instill their plans/mods as the definition that I find more amusing.

But when do I apply my stickers?

I mean I haven't had the car that long, came from a stage 2.5 GTI, this car doesn't have a turbo so things are different, and forums are typically the best place for answers...so you are correct. Thanks friend.

I see what you're saying. I guess because I'm new to this car, and the mods/tunes available, I wanted to see what people thought. I'm still comparing and figuring out what the main differences are in everything, or if they're all just basically the same but under different brand names. Every community has their own definitions, I was testing the waters.

Actually I couldn't find a good enough answer anywhere, which was the only reason I reached out on here.

Good place to start is here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96158

Wait.



Stages are fractional?

Have you not calculated your stage? It isn't difficult.

https://i.warosu.org/data/sci/img/00...7432457130.jpg

No, decimal.

:sigh:

I take no pleasure in this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal#Decimal_fractions