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Rohint75 11-14-2017 01:27 PM

Is $1600 for a clutch replacement too much?
 
Was quoted $1600 to replace a clutch by a trusted family mechanic, does this sound right?

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-14-2017 01:32 PM

A bit hefty. Is this parts included?

bryansuriel3 11-14-2017 01:37 PM

That’s a lot imo


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jasonojordan 11-14-2017 01:41 PM

Either way parts included or no it seems a bit steep provided you are just doing stock parts and not some crazy over kill clutch.

stock clutch and pressure plate can be had for under $300
Throw in a couple more bucks to have your flywheel turned or at least checked for this job I would figure you have under $500 in parts.

For a garage mechanic (someone working for cash in their own home garage) this job should be around $500 or less.
For a shop I could see that stretching up around $800-$1000 depending on their overhead costs.

Sportsguy83 11-14-2017 02:04 PM

You can have it done for about $350-400 in labor in my area, obviously shop prices change between locations, but it seems a bit steep, even using an aftermarket clutch going for about 500-600 would still be less than $1600. I think that's high.

venturaII 11-14-2017 02:17 PM

Better come with a lap dance in the waiting room.

DandoX 11-14-2017 03:23 PM

That price sounds too high.

OEM clutch part should be around 230-250

I had my TOB and new clutch installed out the door at $621.60

Look how fast someone familiar can take out the trans:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=44

Either way man I suggest getting your TOB replaced since someone will be up in there anyway (TOB=$50). Also check your flywheel you may not need it resurfaced/replaced. I'm at 70k and my flywheel looked great. However be prepared to resurface/replace the flywheel if needed.

jasonojordan 11-14-2017 04:30 PM

A new OEM flywheel is less then $200 from what I found.

ermax 11-14-2017 04:39 PM

I got the new 2017 TOB from Toyota for $17. $1600 is WAY too much.

D-rek07 11-14-2017 04:47 PM

I just changed my clutch this weekend.
Exedy OEM clutch kit (Clutch, pressure plate, pilot bearing, throwout bearing= $200 on Amazon
Flywheel resurfaced = $35 at a local shop

JazzleSAURUS 11-14-2017 04:53 PM

I do the labor for $350 for locals, if that helps you get a gauge on the rest of the deal. A 'real' shop is likely closer to $450. These cars are pretty easy to do that job on, lift car, drain trans fluid, remove shifter, pull driveshaft from trans and hang on whatever you can, pull trans back and you're in like flynn. (flinn? idk.)

If that's the price with a full aftermarket (exedy stage 1, ACT HDSS, Southbend, etc,) clutch kit, new OEM or lightweight flywheel, velox clutch fork and pivot with OEM TOB, and a good gear oil like motul or amsoil, I don't think the price is that far off.

That said, I doubt he's grabbing the 'full monty' enthusiast package.

venturaII 11-14-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS (Post 3004692)
and you're in like flynn. (flinn? idk.)

Flynn. As in, Errol. ;)

Hags86 11-14-2017 05:22 PM

What does TOB stand for?

ermax 11-14-2017 05:25 PM

Throw out bearing

Mr.ac 11-15-2017 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohint75 (Post 3004588)
Was quoted $1600 to replace a clutch by a trusted family mechanic, does this sound right?

Wow that's called a rape.
My local shops quoted me $600. The dealer wanted about $900.

I bought a tranny jack at harbor fright for $100 and orded the new TOB, retainer clips, and grease for $75. $50 for new tranny oil, And did it myself. It was a huge pain in the ass taking it out (did not bought the tranny jack before) but its do able in a home garage and good tools.

If you have access to a lift it's way faster/easier. Leverage is the key. It's a pain in the ass trying to brake loose the drive shaft blots when your laying down.

ermax 11-15-2017 09:05 AM

I did my TOB a few weekends ago. It was by far the easiest tranny I’ve ever dropped. Did it in the driveway on jack stands and used a floor jack with a 2x6 on top in place of a legit tranny jack. For me the key was to jack the front of the engine to keep it from leaning forward or else it binds on the lower studs making it nearly impossible to slide the tranny off and back on.

I had no problem removing the prop bolts or putting them back on while on my back. I had the car up about 1.5ft and I am about 158lbs. It helps a lot if you can get your wife to put it in neutral and the set/unset the ebrake for you. My old wife would give me shit if I asked her to help with something like that. I traded her in for a newer, younger hotter model. Hahaha. She will sit in a chair next to the car for hours while I work. This is after 7 years together and 4 years married. She is my best friend. Anyways, sorry to ramble. 😀

Teseo 11-15-2017 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ermax (Post 3004686)
I got the new 2017 TOB from Toyota for $17. $1600 is WAY too much.

Its compatible? Plug 'n' play?

ermax 11-15-2017 10:30 AM

Is $1600 for a clutch replacement too much?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 3005059)
Its compatible? Plug 'n' play?



Yes. Identical part. No clue why Subaru wants so much for it. There are a bunch of parts like this. Some are dramatically cheaper from Toyota and some are dramatically cheaper from Subaru. I got my car used and it had a huge thud when turning left to right. Turns out the previous owner changed the battery and didn’t put the tie down back on so the battery was flying back and forth. Luckily it was somewhat trapped by the chassis brace. So I had to order a new tie down. I priced it out at Toyota for something like $40 and only $12 at Subaru. So I make a point to check both when buying parts.

NRXRaptor 11-16-2017 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ermax (Post 3005033)
I did my TOB a few weekends ago. It was by far the easiest tranny I’ve ever dropped. Did it in the driveway on jack stands and used a floor jack with a 2x6 on top in place of a legit tranny jack. For me the key was to jack the front of the engine to keep it from leaning forward or else it binds on the lower studs making it nearly impossible to slide the tranny off and back on.

I had no problem removing the prop bolts or putting them back on while on my back. I had the car up about 1.5ft and I am about 158lbs. It helps a lot if you can get your wife to put it in neutral and the set/unset the ebrake for you. My old wife would give me shit if I asked her to help with something like that. I traded her in for a newer, younger hotter model. Hahaha. She will sit in a chair next to the car for hours while I work. This is after 7 years together and 4 years married. She is my best friend. Anyways, sorry to ramble. 😀

See now I would just pay someone to do it. I was proud of myself for putting in new headlights and exhaust bits, but taking the tranny out I think is beyond me.

Also, $1600 for replacing the clutch on a toyota that starts under $27k seems like way too much to me

madpir8 11-16-2017 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NRXRaptor (Post 3005548)
See now I would just pay someone to do it. I was proud of myself for putting in new headlights and exhaust bits, but taking the tranny out I think is beyond me.

Also, $1600 for replacing the clutch on a toyota that starts under $27k seems like way too much to me

It's all about the tools. I reckon with a hoist, most of us could do these jobs

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ermax 11-16-2017 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madpir8 (Post 3005597)
It's all about the tools. I reckon with a hoist, most of us could do these jobs

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Actually this job requires very basic tools. Nothing exotic at all. 4 jack stands. Floor jack (to jack the car but also to lower and raise the tranny). 10mm, 12mm, 14mm sockets in both deep and shallow along with a few extensions. A breaker bar. Torque wrench. A hoist is not needed. Oh and a funnel with long hose for putting new fluid in the tranny when you are done.

I guess if you aren't much of a car guy you may not have these basic tools and in that case you will just have to pay someone... or get a friend who is a car guy to come over with these items.

You could easily go to Harbor Freight and get all the tools needed for this job then order the clutch from Toyota and still come in under the $1600.

Hell if I lived in CT I would gladly throw these tools in the back of my tinny FRS trunk and swing by this guys place to do the job for $1600. Hahaha.

JazzleSAURUS 11-16-2017 10:34 AM

Just realized you're in CT, I'm in western MA so if you need a hand let me know.

I just priced out an 'enthusiast package' clutch job, with a 2 day turn around in my shop, and I'd do it for $1,300 to get an idea of where your trusted mechanics price is.

Verus clutch fork and pivot, OEM TOB, OEM Pilot bearing, Motul Gear 300, Exedy stage 1 clutch kit, and a new OEM Exedy flywheel, OR an ACT HDSS with the ACT flywheel. Same price.

Less if you just want a stock clutch kit. You'd leave with a resurfacable OEM flywheel you could likely have resurfaced and sell for $75ish, and your car would be ready to hold the power a FI kit can make. No idea if you want to go down that road. :)

frstnotlast 08-17-2018 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3004644)

I had my TOB and new clutch installed out the door at $621.60

Was that at a dealer? or some other mechanic?

DandoX 08-17-2018 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frstnotlast (Post 3122734)
Was that at a dealer? or some other mechanic?

This was at a specialty mechanic- Neal at the racers line
Who is also a vendor and shop on this forum. I would mention him but I always screw up the tags.

gravitylover 08-18-2018 12:40 PM

Uggh, I wish I had seen this post before I brought my car in to have it done at a local chain shop... :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS (Post 3005664)
Just realized you're in CT, I'm in western MA so if you need a hand let me know.

I just priced out an 'enthusiast package' clutch job, with a 2 day turn around in my shop, and I'd do it for $1,300 to get an idea of where your trusted mechanics price is.

Verus clutch fork and pivot, OEM TOB, OEM Pilot bearing, Motul Gear 300, Exedy stage 1 clutch kit, and a new OEM Exedy flywheel, OR an ACT HDSS with the ACT flywheel. Same price.

Less if you just want a stock clutch kit. You'd leave with a resurfacable OEM flywheel you could likely have resurfaced and sell for $75ish, and your car would be ready to hold the power a FI kit can make. No idea if you want to go down that road. :)


Captain Snooze 08-18-2018 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 3004614)
Better come with a lap dance in the waiting room.

I think that's usually spelt "cum"

Ultramaroon 08-18-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohint75 (Post 3004588)
Was quoted $1600 to replace a clutch by a trusted family mechanic, does this sound right?

It sounds about right for someone who does not have experience with this specific platform and is adding time for research and being extra careful to get it right on the first pass, especially if he already has a waiting list.

If my suspicion was confirmed after a friendly conversation, I would gladly pay and take him out for beers afterward.

Neal can do them in his sleep.


As a point of reference I'll mention that I've done my own shit since I was old enough to hand a wrench to my dad.

JazzleSAURUS 08-20-2018 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 3122926)
Uggh, I wish I had seen this post before I brought my car in to have it done at a local chain shop... :(

Don't worry, my wife is HELLA pregnant so she requires too much attention to take on side jobs these days.

I can point you in the direction of a few enthusiast shops for future reference to avoid the chain shops who have no idea what they are doing.

Qwimby1 08-20-2018 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 3004644)
That price sounds too high.

OEM clutch part should be around 230-250

I had my TOB and new clutch installed out the door at $621.60

Look how fast someone familiar can take out the trans:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=44

Either way man I suggest getting your TOB replaced since someone will be up in there anyway (TOB=$50). Also check your flywheel you may not need it resurfaced/replaced. I'm at 70k and my flywheel looked great. However be prepared to resurface/replace the flywheel if needed.

Remarkable. If I ever need that done, I'm going to make my wrench watch that video first.

gravitylover 08-21-2018 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS (Post 3123570)
Don't worry, my wife is HELLA pregnant so she requires too much attention to take on side jobs these days.

I can point you in the direction of a few enthusiast shops for future reference to avoid the chain shops who have no idea what they are doing.

Congratulations!

That's a good idea for a new thread. Probably in the New England regional subforum and put a link in the NY/NJ/CT sub too. A list of recommended enthusiast shops would be a good resource.

JazzleSAURUS 08-21-2018 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 3123814)
Congratulations!

That's a good idea for a new thread. Probably in the New England regional subforum and put a link in the NY/NJ/CT sub too. A list of recommended enthusiast shops would be a good resource.

Appreciate it! I did have to ditch the BRZ for car seat room, but I found a pretty clean V8 4Runner should should be fun too!

Ultramaroon 08-21-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS (Post 3123570)
Don't worry, my wife is HELLA pregnant so she requires too much attention to take on side jobs these days.

Just need taller jack stands.

JazzleSAURUS 08-22-2018 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3123903)
Just need taller jack stands.

I actually use the 6 ton truck stands. It's awesome being able to get a regular car up 2 feet in the air to work under without struggling for space.

Edit: I did get the joke, it was awesome, but I already have the big stands haha. So maybe she can take on a clutch job.

Ultramaroon 08-22-2018 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS (Post 3124222)
So maybe she can take on a clutch job.

:D :clap:


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