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86 South Africa 11-08-2017 03:32 PM

Sequential gear changes, without changing the gearbox
 
Just saw this by chance and I had to share it.

I think it’s such a clever, neat solution... not sure if it will fit the twins, but really cool engineering solution.

What do you guys think?

https://youtu.be/DG12jmFsI7M

www.bremershifters.com

*Edit:* our cars run with a TL70 gearbox which they don’t cater for yet. :thumbdown:

Current cost is $2400 on pre-order for early 2018. Personally think this is over-priced but considering their competition is a full sequential box...

Good news is they are apparently expanding the options of cars this will work with.

8RZ 11-08-2017 03:38 PM

3 pedals for me.

dutchman1 11-08-2017 03:51 PM

Only loosely related, but a lot of semis nowadays have automated manuals. The have an xy valve mounted where the shifter bolts on and a little electric motor mounted to the clutch fork. I wonder if that'll be used in sports cars one day. Should be able to work quite well with a paddle shifter type gear selector.

Tcoat 11-08-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3002245)
3 pedals for me.

You still use three pedals it just eliminates the H pattern shifter.

Slammillionaire 11-08-2017 03:59 PM

Soft. This or nothing:
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/holi...l#.WgNh7Y9SxQI

Grady 11-08-2017 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3002262)
You still use three pedals it just eliminates the H pattern shifter.

And the need for a clutch after launch!

Edit... shit I saw sequential and thought it was the transmission. It is just a shifter. That makes no sense to me!

Why the hell would I want a sequential shifter on a normal transmission.

I bet they are going to sell thousands so people think they have a high performance transmission. I put this in line with those awesome 10hp vents you stick on the side.

86 South Africa 11-08-2017 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grady (Post 3002280)
And the need for a clutch after launch!

Edit... shit I saw sequential and thought it was the transmission. It is just a shifter. That makes no sense to me!

Why the hell would I want a sequential shifter on a normal transmission.

I bet they are going to sell thousands so people think they have a high performance transmission. I put this in line with those awesome 10hp vents you stick on the side.

Lol.
And racing stripes.
I think it’s an interesting option to at least let you feel like you have a sequential box.

8RZ 11-08-2017 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3002262)
You still use three pedals it just eliminates the H pattern shifter.

Ah, I see.

Still looks like a solution that no one asked for lol.

Tcoat 11-08-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3002313)
Ah, I see.

Still looks like a solution that no one asked for lol.

Sequential shifters have been around a while. They are very expensive so are pretty much only on certain spec race cars. Be a total waste of money on a street car but would rock your world on a drag strip.

8RZ 11-08-2017 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3002316)
Sequential shifters have been around a while. They are very expensive so are pretty much only on certain spec race cars. Be a total waste of money on a street car but would rock your world on a drag strip.

Right, seq trans have been around for a while but I have not seen these "adapters" before.

:burnrubber:

Tcoat 11-08-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3002330)
Right, seq trans have been around for a while but I have not seen these "adapters" before.

:burnrubber:

I can see a good market for them in some circles. IF they can keep the price reasonable that is.

Cole 11-08-2017 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3002338)
I can see a good market for them in some circles. IF they can keep the price reasonable that is.

For the price, hard to beat the IRP shifter.

Tcoat 11-08-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole (Post 3002371)
For the price, hard to beat the IRP shifter.

This is actually the first of my modern MT cars that I never felt the need for a short shifter on. The trow is pretty good at stock. My old Talon was like shifting a semi and it was the very first change I made when I got the car.

Only a very specific group is going to get any sort of value out of this sequential adapter but in the right car and driving conditions it would be sweet.

Cole 11-08-2017 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3002381)
This is actually the first of my modern MT cars that I never felt the need for a short shifter on. The trow is pretty good at stock. My old Talon was like shifting a semi and it was the very first change I made when I got the car.

Only a very specific group is going to get any sort of value out of this sequential adapter but in the right car and driving conditions it would be sweet.

I enjoyed the gearbox on my test drive. Felt like I just had to nudge it into gear, compared to my 626.

mav1178 11-08-2017 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 3002330)
Right, seq trans have been around for a while but I have not seen these "adapters" before.

5Zigen had something like this before that basically allowed use of the clutch via a button. You still retained normal shifting but you can run the car without the clutch pedal.

Great for left foot braking.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...em-5zigen.html

Mind you this was 16+ years ago so the entire idea of sequential shifting or "clutchless" manual transmissions isn't new.

Also, this is not the first company with this idea. Ikeya Formula has had it in Japan for years.

https://www.nengun.com/ikeya-formula/sequential-shifter

mav1178 11-08-2017 08:41 PM

If you want to see how this type of system works on a street car with a clutch pedal, here's a good video.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0L-hkSMlY"]Ikeya Formula sequential shifter for Nissan Silvia S15 - YouTube[/ame]


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