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drz400dude 10-23-2017 12:10 AM

Joying 8" 2GB Toyota Universal install
 
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Installed my Joying 8" Android unit a week ago, thought I'd give it a review on here in case anyone else was thinking about it.

First off, it is most definitely Chinese. The instructions are in Engrish, but the install is super straight forward. The only thing that was kinda wonky was the mounting brackets. The way it lined up I could only get 3 screws in each side, and I had to mash the little bubble detent on the bracket down so it would sit flush against the head unit. Not a big deal.

Note, you will lose your stock USB and AUX ports, but it does come with 2 USB inputs you can use for whatever. I use one to hook up my phone, and one I plugged in a hard drive with all my music and movies and ran it to my glovebox so it is hidden. It's nice being able to chill in the car on lunch and watch TV shows or whatever.

The screen is detachable, it just pulls straight out and you disconnect a little ribbon from the back. Nice if you are in the not so nice part of town or have to park somewhere kinda shady.

The GPS is nice, comes with the antenna. I just run google maps just like I do on my phone. While I'm home I connect to my wifi and DL the map for my area, or the area I'm going if it's a long trip. If I need to connect on the fly I can tether with my phone, or do screen mirroring which is easy enough to set up.

Most things seem to run fairly smoothly. I can run maps and music at the same time without much lag. From the factory I had to calibrate the side buttons for volume up and down as they were not responding correctly. But now they work great. You can actually program the side buttons to do a host of things from the menu, which is nice. I have my power button set to dim the screen for nighttime driving. The only thing is I kinda miss having a volume knob.

The screen doesn't sit perfectly flush, there is a tiny gap. You can't notice from either seat unless you put your head almost right next to the dash, so its not a big deal for me.

Any other questions just ask!

ze12o 10-23-2017 05:30 PM

pics of it working please!

drz400dude 10-25-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ze12o (Post 2995399)
pics of it working please!

I'll upload a few later. Anything specific you want to see? I didn't do it originally because they have shots of the screen on their website.

mausr 10-28-2017 10:15 PM

Thanks for the mini review. I am considering the same HU, however, I'm a bit hesitant due to the sound quality. What is you experience reagarding SQ?

(My other take would be the Sony xav-ax100, which sounds great but it starts with an annoying message and it looks not as good when it is installed.)

Pointmutation 10-29-2017 02:58 PM

How firmly does the tablet connect to the unit? Any worries it'll come off on extremely bumpy/crappy roads? Hard to remove? I've been looking at their larger screen units and the thing that concerns me is the stability of the display when mounted.

rixter145 10-30-2017 03:50 PM

did you have to repin any of the wiring harnesses? Also back up cam install? I have a 2014 brz with the beatsonic bcam so with this, do I just forgo the beatsonic harness and connect the rca cable?

drz400dude 11-08-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mausr (Post 2997614)
Thanks for the mini review. I am considering the same HU, however, I'm a bit hesitant due to the sound quality. What is you experience reagarding SQ?

(My other take would be the Sony xav-ax100, which sounds great but it starts with an annoying message and it looks not as good when it is installed.)

Sound quality is hard to tell. The speakers in this car aren't great to begin with. It's not any worse, that's for sure.

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drz400dude 11-08-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointmutation (Post 2997785)
How firmly does the tablet connect to the unit? Any worries it'll come off on extremely bumpy/crappy roads? Hard to remove? I've been looking at their larger screen units and the thing that concerns me is the stability of the display when mounted.

It attaches very firmly. It doesn't move at all going down the road. The thought of it coming off didn't even cross my mind. It is also very easy to remove. Just a bit of firm pressure pulling on the back directly outward and it pops right out.

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drz400dude 11-08-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rixter145 (Post 2998144)
did you have to repin any of the wiring harnesses? Also back up cam install? I have a 2014 brz with the beatsonic bcam so with this, do I just forgo the beatsonic harness and connect the rca cable?

I didn't have a backup cam so I'm not sure about that. I didn't have to repin anything. All plug and play. The only thing you'll need is an adapter for the fm antenna if you still use that.

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drz400dude 11-08-2017 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ze12o (Post 2995399)
pics of it working please!

Here's some screen picshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9319eb79e7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dd9016ab88.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9dff43ddc5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9d3bc6ec2b.jpg

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rixter145 11-08-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by drz400dude (Post 3002387)
I didn't have a backup cam so I'm not sure about that. I didn't have to repin anything. All plug and play. The only thing you'll need is an adapter for the fm antenna if you still use that.

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What year is your car?

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drz400dude 11-08-2017 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rixter145 (Post 3002416)
What year is your car?

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2013

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mausr 11-12-2017 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by drz400dude (Post 3002349)
Sound quality is hard to tell. The speakers in this car aren't great to begin with. It's not any worse, that's for sure.

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Did not reach the necessary number of posts to thank you via the built-in function, so let me do this way: :thanks:

CraigVM 11-12-2017 09:27 PM

Ditto
 
Ditto as said. Another thanks here also.

I like the idea of a tablet sized display. Just installed what most would consider a cutting edge HU as far as features. Yet many look at it and with the trend of larger OEM screens that come in so many cars, they ask if I am looking to upgrade it to something newer and BIGGER :confused0068:

KayC 12-24-2017 04:02 AM

How you liking it OP after couple of months?

drz400dude 01-01-2018 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KayC (Post 3019947)
How you liking it OP after couple of months?

Still liking it. Just need the rest of the audio system to make it better.

The only problem is now when using bluetooth, the audio blips every couple of seconds. Super annoying. I talked to Joying and they said they will have a firmware update soon to fix it. For now I'm just using music from my external hard drive I have stashed in the glove box, or use my phone as a hotspot and stream spotify.

Brink 01-01-2018 03:02 PM

Where did you get that dash panel? That looks nice.

Cole 01-01-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brink (Post 3022563)
Where did you get that dash panel? That looks nice.

OEM 2012-2014

KayC 01-05-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by drz400dude (Post 3022544)
Still liking it. Just need the rest of the audio system to make it better.

The only problem is now when using bluetooth, the audio blips every couple of seconds. Super annoying. I talked to Joying and they said they will have a firmware update soon to fix it. For now I'm just using music from my external hard drive I have stashed in the glove box, or use my phone as a hotspot and stream spotify.

cool. did you have to buy any additional harness for Radio etc? I know I would want to retain the oem usb port, but other than that, not sure if I need any additional harness, etc other than the head unit itself.

I see they have a new Octacore version.

https://www.carjoying.com/octa-core-...on-system.html

Luftwaffel 01-07-2018 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KayC (Post 3024371)
cool. did you have to buy any additional harness for Radio etc? I know I would want to retain the oem usb port, but other than that, not sure if I need any additional harness, etc other than the head unit itself.

I see they have a new Octacore version.

https://www.carjoying.com/octa-core-...on-system.html

Should be pretty plug-and-play for you. Newer cars require fuckery with the camera power supply as I've detailed in the past.

I'd probably spring for an octa-core. My 2GB Joying is slower than dog shit and has issues multitasking the three basics, Torque, Spotify, and Google Maps for me. It hangs on bootup for 10 seconds up to 3 minutes, too. I've even tried different ROMs (operating systems) but even if it works fine for the first week, it'll just go back to its old ways eventually.

gahooligan 01-30-2018 12:49 AM

Can you make these display the normal android app icons? Not into their pastel and cartoony looking icons. How is the display quality? I have been trying to use a gen 1 nexus 7 tablet but the over the radio mount doesn't work so well on the 17 BRZs. Looking at this 8" octa-core so I don't have to worry about the dash hole either. Is this the 8" universal or the 8" Toyota version? Thanksfor the answers and thanks for posting about your install!


Matt in GA

Anagonda 02-01-2018 04:07 AM

Installed today 8" joying.
It is better than I was expecting from cheap chinese. I have now used ot max 10 minutes, so maybe feelings will change.

The screen seems to be good enough quality. Clear in sunlight also.

It seems to run some android launcher so probably easy to change how it looks(icons etc)

The steering wheel remote does not work on - 17. Have to look deeper, probably one connector with 3 cables. It didn't fit cars connector. HU had 20 pins and car 3 or over 20 if you took some adapter of.
Oh, and none of antenna connectors did fit. Have to look for some adapter to listen to radio.

Overall I'm impressed, considering the price.

Anagonda 02-04-2018 10:59 PM

Today had the first drive with car after new HU install.


So in the end the "toyota" model is not so plug and play for -17 86. The steering wheel controls are not working and the amp in the rear is not working.
Need to find a circuit drawing for both to fix these.


+The screen is good quality, bright etc. Have to find a dimmer, is currently way too bright in dark.
+Startup is fast, faster than stock HU
+The screen holds really good to the unit. Not at all afraid of it coming of while driving!
+The screen height you can adjust, I think. Toyota model has the screen on different height. But this is easy to change as there are many holes behind the screen. I think I might try to lower it one screw hole down to open the upper dash wents more. Maybe if Im not too lazy...
+-Normal android use. Widget does not show correct time etc. normal things, just need time to fix.




-No volume knob, I don't like touch controls. And still missing the steering remote... Touch controls are on the wrong side for RWD.
-I synced this system with my google account. Some how it wanted to remove 25% of my contacts. Just a flash on the screen something about duplicates, too fast flash to read it. Thanks for google that you can revert to a backup from google contact web page. Maybe also some android flaw, probably not HU problem.


-Manual said that you need to use Joying supplied screws to fasten the unit. There was no screws supplied. So I had to measure all bolt holes and used only holes where original length screws could be used. It is enough to hold the unit, no problem.


Overall I'm still impressed and ready to recommend this to others. The quality/price ratio is excellent. Just be ready to use some time to fix all. Do not prepare for plug and play(10min installation). Prepare to use 1-2hrs on fine tuning. Seems to be the same what ever android system you buy...

cjd 02-04-2018 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anagonda (Post 3037275)
The steering wheel remote does not work on - 17. Have to look deeper, probably one connector with 3 cables. It didn't fit cars connector. HU had 20 pins and car 3 or over 20 if you took some adapter of.

There are instructions somewhere for the needed 28pin connector to get the steering wheel controls wired up, along with the rest (including the rear amp)

gahooligan 02-05-2018 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cjd (Post 3039185)
There are instructions somewhere for the needed 28pin connector to get the steering wheel controls wired up, along with the rest (including the rear amp)

Do a google search for "joying android in 2017 BRZ" and you will find the diy thread. Bought the exact pieces he used and wired exactly like he said and everything was pkug and play and worked great! Only issue is joying just released update for the octacore 2gb/32gb units to fix the OBD bluetooth adapter paring issues. You do not need their dongle but you need the update to connect a bluetooth dongle. Update is kind of a pain and no good tutorials online. If you buy one of these and need help pm me and i will call you and talk with you about it. Pretty easy to do. The diy is a must have resource, buy all the right connectors and wire like he did. Do the update first before customizing the unit. (i can explain how)
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Roth 02-06-2018 08:23 AM

Nice write up, and the HU looks like a good choice.
Do these android units have a DAB+ module? No more FM here, so I'm currently using the OEM HU with an adapter, but looking for an upgrade.

Anagonda 02-07-2018 09:09 PM

I got the steering wheel remote working. Car has a 4 pin connector after the 28pin connector(like an adapter). The hu harness has 20 pin connector.
Was reading the drawings and noticed that the order is same. And the pins are same size. So I just pushed the 4 pin connector in to the 20pin connector pins and it is very tight fit. It will be fine! So now they work.

For the amp, I connected the ext amp cable from Hu to brown on 10 pin connector but still the amp is silent. I will not look at this any more as I ordered 2 amps, 6.5" set and a subwoofer. So I will install those soon.

Edit: I am having trouble with android screen mirroring. Does not regonize my phone even if usb debugger is enabled and easy connect is installed. Google said it can be the usb port of Hu or the cable. Any one else had problems with this?

Edit2: got the amp working. The pin had come off of the connector.
Tried the screen mirroring. Many cables and one seems to work almost every time. The usb connectors have bad connection. By jiggling the connector the communication works some times. But now I have one cable which I can use!

BinkRZ 02-08-2018 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anagonda (Post 3040786)
I got the steering wheel remote working. Car has a 4 pin connector after the 28pin connector(like an adapter). The hu harness has 20 pin connector.
Was reading the drawings and noticed that the order is same. And the pins are same size. So I just pushed the 4 pin connector in to the 20pin connector pins and it is very tight fit. It will be fine! So now they work.

For the amp, I connected the ext amp cable from Hu to brown on 10 pin connector but still the amp is silent. I will not look at this any more as I ordered 2 amps, 6.5" set and a subwoofer. So I will install those soon.

Edit: I am having trouble with android screen mirroring. Does not regonize my phone even if usb debugger is enabled and easy connect is installed. Google said it can be the usb port of Hu or the cable. Any one else had problems with this?

Edit2: got the amp working. The pin had come off of the connector.
Tried the screen mirroring. Many cables and one seems to work almost every time. The usb connectors have bad connection. By jiggling the connector the communication works some times. But now I have one cable which I can use!



This is awesome. Looks like Apple Play is working on these units also so this may be an option for me. How about your backup cam? Is that working ok?


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Totalrecall 02-09-2018 02:07 AM

Any Video in car of setup anyone?

BinkRZ 02-18-2018 10:13 PM

A nice video pan would be nice to see how much over hang it has or if it covers any vents/controls from the drivers angle. I’m thinking of pairing this HU with the one piece leather panel.


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gahooligan 02-19-2018 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinkRZ (Post 3046201)
A nice video pan would be nice to see how much over hang it has or if it covers any vents/controls from the drivers angle. I’m thinking of pairing this HU with the one piece leather panel.


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It exactly covers up the hole on my 2017 BRZ. It sits directly on the dash so It looks like you stuck a tablet to your dash. Get the universal do not get the Toyota version the Toyota version will set higher and possibly partially block the Vents mind is not block anything and covers the hole completely.

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chaoskaze 08-03-2018 08:55 AM

Hey, Sorry super late to the party here. @drz400dude

Do you guys order the universal one or Toyota one like this?

https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-la...grade-4gb.html

Really interested in getting one just not really sure about the wires.......

gahooligan 08-05-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3117456)
Hey, Sorry super late to the party here. @drz400dude

Do you guys order the universal one or Toyota one like this?

https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-la...grade-4gb.html

Really interested in getting one just not really sure about the wires.......

Get the universal 8"! The universal screen is centered on the chassis and works well. The toyota radio has the screen ofset upwards and looks to block the vents. There is a ver good write up here on the forums https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url...1&share_type=t

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gahooligan 08-12-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3117456)
Hey, Sorry super late to the party here. @drz400dude

Do you guys order the universal one or Toyota one like this?

https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-la...grade-4gb.html

Really interested in getting one just not really sure about the wires.......

I removed mine last night as I am trading in my car. I have my 8" for sale. If you have a BRZ it would be plug and play as I have all the plugs wired feom my install.

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