eBay exhaust adventures. :)
 

Join me on this travel where I'll buy this exhaust and sell it on facebook for $135 a month or two from now.


but really, K2motors is a company which distributes parts from a manufacturer known as Spec-D. Spec-D actually has some quality products. I've seen many twin owners use their headlights and I honestly do think they are some very stylish headlights (pictures at the bottom)

But that's not the point. The point is this company sells an Invidia N1 Catback knock-off/replica for $341-$362. The Invidia N1 goes between $1k-$1.2k depending on if you purchase it with burnt tips or not. (pictures at the bottom)

Keep in mind I'm only 18 so my funds for an exhaust really over the $500 price point is really unrealistic unless if I save for a really long time. My first exhaust pickup for my car was a brand new PLM Muffler delete for $240. I loved it and actually removed it from my car a few weeks back as my car was due for a cat replacement on the stock headers and I didn't want to fight an uphill battle with the dealership over warranty. I had no plans on selling my muffler delete until I went on eBay and noticed the standard tipped (not burnt) N1 replica was only going for $198 brand new. I made sure this was the official K2Motors ebay and gave them a phone call and asked why there was such a huge price difference between that one and the burnt tip version (which was still going for about $330 on ebay at the time) and they explained to me that they only have about 9 or so of those normal tipped ones left and the demand is very high in the burnt tipped version. Although I do agree the burnt tips look great they are not $330 for a replica part great.

A few facebook post later and my muffler delete was sold and I was taking $200 to the ATM to purchase this part. It comes in the mail this Wednesday and I'll be sure to post up some follow ups and impressions once I throw it on the car. I've ravaged through YouTube watching soundclips and I'm honestly impressed. Here is a sound clip I'm going to provide that I found sounded best. The only thing I've noticed extremely wrong about this exhaust so far is from multiple videos I've watched when people rev their engine around 6.5k+ you can hear a very blatant exhaust leak that almost sounds like a turbo spooling up. I'm not sure if it's because of dogshit fitment or the gaskets they provide are shit but I'm not too concerned. I'll crack down on it. Hopefully, all goes well and when this part rust to shit in like 2-3 months over the winter I can make $100 or so back ;)

UPDATE!
Exhaust is now on the vehicle. Came on the mail undamaged and very well wrapped. Satisfied with my purchase. Enjoy the soundclips :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvKp...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-42w...ature=youtu.be



http://i.imgur.com/RJ6jKZ7.png

:popcorn:

This will be fun :thumbsup:

tbh, If it sounds as decent as it does in that sound clip and others I've found I don't really care. I'm going into this purchase knowing it's going to rust to shit over this winter and I'll probably end of replacing it with a new exhaust in the summer. For like $198 it doesn't hurt to experiment ;) I find that most people with this exhaust are filming in places where they don't experience any snow. Here in Virginia, it's literally impossible NOT to drive on a salted out road anytime if they even remotely think it has a potential of snowing or being ice anywhere. That's going to be my downfall since I daily drive my car

Surprisingly like 9/10 every review I find is something positive.

Just ask yourself if it's worth it to spend the money on this shitty exhaust that you'll replace in a few months anyway, or more worth it to save this money and wait till you have enough for an N1 thats only like $600

Oh for sure. That's how I felt when I got my muffler delete and then sold it for $120.

I've seen other post on the forums that come up when you even google this exhaust and those other users say they thought it was a bang for the buck. I figured for how cheap they were selling them It wouldn't hurt to give it a shot. $198 doesn't hurt that bad when I made $120 of that back from my muffler delete. In reality, I could probably get more money reselling this than a muffler delete anyways. there is more of a demand in a catback vs a riceback.

It also helps they have a 90-day warranty on these exhausts as well as well as a 30-day money back. So if I'm REALLY hating myself I can get my money back in 30 days or just get a brand new one within 90 and sell it as soon as it comes in the mail.

Wat

So pretty much a little backstory. My car shot a P0420 which refers to your catalytic converter on the exhaust manifold. (the only cat on the car which has a sensor is the cat on the headers btw)

The dealer I got my car from were some serious assholes in the first place. Even though under Federal Emissions the car is covered for 8 years from manufacturing date / 80k miles I didn't want to show up without a muffler and have them try to say that was the cause of the failure of the cat. They're supposed to check the muffler anyways when they are diagnosing those types of issues according to Toyota.

Pretty much I was afraid they'd be like nah, fuck you. Then follow that up with a $1200 bill for the parts and labor. Instead of taking that risk I just unbolted my muffler delete and put my OEM muffler back on. took like 20 mins

Also, the $1200 for the cost of the parts & labor is actually what I was quoted at. They replaced the OEM headers and front pipe.

If $198 doesn't hurt that bad, save it 3 times and buy the n1 and avoid a headache. You have a $15k+ car, why cheap out on the important stuff?

Interesting. Haven't heard of too many failures of the primary cat like that. Glad you got it sorted!

It was very strange. My car is only at 45k miles. It's never seen a track (at least under my ownership as I'm the second owner)

I'm just happy it was that and not something else. I'm covered up until 80k so I'm not too worried about emissions parts or anything exhaust related. But its very strange that the cat died out so early. Oh well, new parts and I'm happy :)

Speaking of eBay exhausts, this is a hell of a deal right now @$440: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsudo-Scion-...-/292254584592

https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4...0.1280.jpg?c=2

I love those rolled tips, but not a fan of how those sound. I can tell by the huge ass muffler on that thing it's going to sound somewhat similar to the RS exhaust.

Yeah this will definitely be a tamer sound than the N1 style exhausts.

To each their own of course :) I prefer something much deeper and throatier. I've found that exhaust those style paired with like aftermarket headers or other pipes sound VERY obnoxiously rice and I cant handle that.

On another note, this is what I was referring too. Looks really nice and goes for under $200 he rev's at like 45 seconds. Again it's just another question of quality of materials. I'm sure an exhaust like this (and the one I ordered) if you lived in a really good area where there is no snow would be lovely. I'm just taking the risk and seeing how it goes. I've seen a few people in VA with the replica I'm using. you really can't go wrong for the price if it will last me a year at least.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl5f3IIx3ms"]Scion FRS - EBay "RS Type" Exhaust Sound - YouTube[/ame]

aren't our warranty 5 years or 60k miles, whichever comes first? how did u get the dealer to replace it seeing tht u have a 2013?

edit: nm, emissions parts are 8yrs/80k miles

For emissions they're 8/80k I believe. Also It's technically not 2018 yet and my vehicle was at 44k miles when the light came on.

Edit: Here's the PDF for the emissions info
http://www.factorywarrantylist.com/u...licy_flyer.pdf

That's straight up false. N1 goes for half that. 86speed has it for $575 right now. You're supposedly in Virginia so you aren't using canada or upside down (australian) dollars

You can get a real nice catback for $1200

A friend of mine got this catback with the burnt tips. I helped her put it on. the fitment was fine. It sounds good too.

With that little mileage on a 4 year old car, that cat should not have gone out. There's a reason it went bad, if the garage simply replaced the cat, you'll be back within a year for another. Coolant, oil or fuel getting into the exhaust stream will destroy a cat- they need to find the REASON that cat went, they don't just go bad after 4 years with low mileage.

This was the first exhaust I ever bought. It's pretty much garbage, tips will never line up and it sounds obnoxious.

Fixed.

And I say that with nothing but love. :wub:

Thanks for adding such a relevant post to the thread.

The point is, 90% of what the average end user thinks is a knock-off is in reality made by the same factory as the "brand name"

It's people looking for a bargain that keeps these no-name brands afloat, because they have buyers that don't care for a name on a product.

For $1200 you can get Fujitsubo. If you're nice you can even get free shipping.

I was referring to the price on Invidias site (which is defo not $575) vs the price on K2Motors website.


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For sure. To update everyone It came in the mail today. Box was ruined but they used an ungodly amount of bubble wrap and everything came undamaged. I looked over the welding and everything looks fine. I'll post pics later this evening!


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For what I paid I'm 100% satisfied. Sounds pretty good, Paid under $200 for it BRAND NEW and it came in the mail in under 3 days wrapped in an unholy amount of buble wrap. Didn't find one scratch on any piece.

10/10 would do again.

Sounds like I expected it to sound lol. Can't argue with the price I guess.

Tbh for the price I paid Im happy. A very big step up from a muffler delete for sure both sound wise and aesthetically


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comparing to a muffler delete how does it sound (quieter, deeper raspier) I have a muffler delete right now and am trying to get a little more sound out of my car.

I feel like it sounds very deep in the lower range (0k - 4k) but once you pass that threshold of like 4.5k the type of sound and pitch goes a bit higher and makes that noise you hear when I was redlining. I loved my old muffler delete because it was really deep and raspy. The only issue I had with that was first off you're not really seeing any performance gains and the fact that there wasn't really defined tone. As you went through the higher rpm range it just got louder and also made nearly no crackles or pops. (If that makes any sense)

Heres a link to my muffler delete and then my spec-d.

Muffler Delete: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHk8KWQVxFY&list=UUypKsW1IwUR2R86v6W0-ZyQ&index=1"]tcoat tears - YouTube[/ame]
Spec-D: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvKpS6YQfjc&list=UUzc4xBcQbowRDx29OmEqdfw"]Spec-D Catback (N1 Knock Off) - YouTube[/ame]

To be fair, cat-backs don't really provide much of a power increase over an axle-back on our cars, and any increase maybe negated from the gained weight over the muffler delete.

For sure which I was going to mention but felt like I would get crucified for. In reality I dont feel like there are any significant gains that you can at least notice until you replace the headers and tune. I feel like everything else is a bit of a placebo


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:lol:

Got any detailed photos of the unit itself? Welds?

https://i.imgur.com/LVIiLlo.jpg
this was the only picture I had taken of the piping. I really didn't have much time to take as many pictures as I wanted, as soon as it came in the mail I put it on the vehicle because I had a pretty decent meet this last Sunday. I can say that I was very surprised in the like quality of the piping though, It was much studier than I was expecting if that makes any sense. the gaskets were quality gaskets and not mesh bullshit that came with my muffler delete. I did inspect a majority of the welds and there were not any cracks or holes but I did notice that a few of the welds were a bit sloppy and looked rushed. Aesthetically not a huge deal because it's all under the car. Fitment wasnt too horrible in my opinion but I do see what Cole was talking about. one of the pipes defo sticks just a TINY bit off compared to the other on the drivers side. I spoke with another enthusiast this past Sunday at our meet and he did agree that my exhaust was actually louder than the N1 after I did a warm start and 2.5k rev. He also mentioned that it's really common to see people running the N1 and the tips not lining up or one of the other looking a bit awkward if you look at it for too long. I enjoy the sound and the look so in reality I dont care :) like I'm seriously happy I went with this route instead of keeping my muffler delete.

LOL, those instructions. I did not know there was a 2012 model FR-S.

Also I like how it's mentioning front bumper removal and letting halogen bulbs cool down. Very useful.

LOL, i think they got the model year from when they were being produced? It's really strange actually. I think because they specialize in making aftermarket headlights and taillight that's like a custom to every instructions manual. I didn't even catch that (Or really use my instructions lmfao)

This is a spooky installation vid
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjSo6iiKGsA"]SPECDTUNING INSTALLATION VIDEO: 2013-UP FR-S & BRZ CATBACK EXHAUST - YouTube[/ame]

I actually have the Nameless Single Muffled Track Pipe and love the way it sounds compared to a lot of full cat back systems.

Yeah I think overseas they have different model year specs. We consider 2013 the first model year when it was made in 2012. They go by when the model was actually produced.

I owned the private label dual exit muffler delete. I was a huge fan of how deep and raspy it was. The general like high pitch catback noise never really appealed to me until recently. My problem with the muffler delete is no matter if you were at 3k rpm or 6k, the sound was always the same, just louder. With this catback below like 3.5k it really is super deep and reminds me of my muffler delete but as it flies into the higher rpm range the sound becomes a bit of a higher pitch and extremely raspy. It actually has a tone to it




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http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/medi...apexi-n1_2.jpg

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/medi...apexi-n1-1.jpg

It's like an affordable version of this $1,400 Apexi exhaust that I want haha.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/apex...aust-1901.html

Related, they made an undertray/diffuser for this system, I wonder if it would work with the Spec-D as well?

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/medi...diffuser-4.jpg

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/apex...r-n1-1902.html