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MicahG6 10-05-2017 07:51 AM

Throttle by cable FA20?
 
I know that a car’s acceleration can be effected by the throttle body. Perhaps the FA20 would not feel as slow as most claim it to be if it had a different throttle body? Could throttle by cable improve the way the BRZ/FRS/GT86’s acceleration feels or perhaps even make it faster? Could a throttle by cable throttle body even be possible with the FA20? What do you guys think?

Jyn 10-05-2017 02:31 PM

No. There's no real reason to do this.

Somerandom18 10-05-2017 02:53 PM

Or just smooth out how it responds via tuning.

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extrashaky 10-05-2017 02:59 PM

There's no fake reason to do it either.

Grady 10-05-2017 03:16 PM

Yes you just need to tune it. Since it is drive by wire you can program it to open the throttle all the way when you press the gas down half way. Did that to mine and it is twice as fast now!

extrashaky 10-05-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady (Post 2988242)
Yes you just need to tune it. Since it is drive by wire you can program it to open the throttle all the way when you press the gas down half way. Did that to mine and it is twice as fast now!

That's silly. Why would anyone program wide open throttle at half pedal, when you could program it at 1/4 pedal instead and go four times as fast?

Grady 10-05-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2988248)
That's silly. Why would anyone program wide open throttle at half pedal, when you could program it at 1/4 pedal instead and go four times as fast?

No dont do that! I tried and it scared the $hit out of me!!!!

Jyn 10-05-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2988248)
That's silly. Why would anyone program wide open throttle at half pedal, when you could program it at 1/4 pedal instead and go four times as fast?

cus you half ass stuff, not quarter ass it.

Somerandom18 10-05-2017 03:59 PM

Four times as fast? You mean I'll actually be able to go 100 mph now??

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Tcoat 10-06-2017 07:54 AM

I think it is a great plan. While at it get rid of that damned fuel injection system and get a proper carburetor on the thing. Probably better to do away with the ECU and electronic ignition and replace it with a vacuum advanced distributor. Hell let's go all out and change the tranny to one without synchros.
Let's make 1961 great again!

mrspindlelegs 10-06-2017 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2988548)
I think it is a great plan. While at it get rid of that damned fuel injection system and get a proper carburetor on the thing. Probably better to do away with the ECU and electronic ignition and replace it with a vacuum advanced distributor. Hell let's go all out and change the tranny to one without synchros.
Let's make 1961 great again!



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Grady 10-06-2017 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2988548)
I think it is a great plan. While at it get rid of that damned fuel injection system and get a proper carburetor on the thing. Probably better to do away with the ECU and electronic ignition and replace it with a vacuum advanced distributor. Hell let's go all out and change the tranny to one without synchros.
Let's make 1961 great again!

Wait, we have synchros? I thought I saw a post where I had to double clutch?

Tcoat 10-06-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Grady (Post 2988560)
Wait, we have synchros? I thought I saw a post where I had to double clutch?

No you saw that you have to double clutch so you don't ruin the synchros.

yelsew 10-06-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2988564)
No you saw that you have to double clutch so you don't ruin the synchros.

Oh, so they're there...but we should never use them?

Okay i get it, we have dbw, but should never take advantage of the capabilities.

On a more serious note, even if you wanted to run a cable throttle, the ecu would never be able to run the car because the DBW is integrated into the function of the engine and traction control. Its not just a sensor connected directly to the throttle servo.

Grady 10-06-2017 01:30 PM

Doesn’t also have somthing to do with the Panandermic semi-bloodied stator slots? Or is it the spurring bearings and the parametric fan?

bcj 10-07-2017 01:57 PM

Swirl Flaps

fnar

funwheeldrive 10-07-2017 02:15 PM

To be fair, the electric throttle does have some lag to it. I've heard that doing the pedal dance makes the throttle response slightly sharper.

gtengr 10-07-2017 02:29 PM

I don't understand the negativity. These comments are probably coming from the same type of driver who can't feel the difference between electric and hydraulic power steering.

Ultramaroon 10-07-2017 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2989073)
To be fair, the electric throttle does have some lag to it. I've heard that doing the pedal dance makes the throttle response slightly sharper.

It does, and MUCH sharper while turning. In other words, VSC keeps it idiot proof unless completely disabled.

Somerandom18 10-07-2017 05:29 PM

Words of experience. Don't pedal dance unless you drive like a grandma or know what the fuck you're doing.

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Jasonb 10-07-2017 09:41 PM

Drive by wire used to suck, it's fine now. I swear my 07 Scion tC always had a barely noticeable delay which always resulted in crappy shifts. It also had bad rev hang which I'm very glad my bra doesn't have.

Allch Chcar 10-09-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonb (Post 2989161)
Drive by wire used to suck, it's fine now. I swear my 07 Scion tC always had a barely noticeable delay which always resulted in crappy shifts. It also had bad rev hang which I'm very glad my bra doesn't have.

That would not be something I'd expect a bra to have.


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