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Harvir 10-01-2017 10:08 PM

What is an loud exhaust
 
Hi i am looking to make my car more louder what is a good and a loud exhaust that i should buy for my car.But I don’t want to make it too loud either. :thanks:

86geek 10-01-2017 10:23 PM

Depends if you gonna add a header down the road. Adding header will be even louder. Join up with local ft86 club & check out some meets then you can hear different exhausts. Tomei & Invidia N1 are hella loud. What is your budget?

dowroa 10-01-2017 10:33 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQW_Trs2LA"]Aftermarket Exhausts | Everything you need to know [FRS/BRZ/86] - YouTube[/ame]

Captain Snooze 10-01-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986207)
Hi i am looking to make my car more louder what is a good[1] and a loud[2] exhaust that i should buy for my car.But I don’t want to make it too loud[3] either. :thanks:

1/ Subjective
2/ Subjective
3/ Subjective

Ultramaroon 10-01-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 2986221)
1/ Subjective
2/ Subjective
3/ Subjective

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Harvir 10-01-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 86geek (Post 2986212)
Depends if you gonna add a header down the road. Adding header will be even louder. Join up with local ft86 club & check out some meets then you can hear different exhausts. Tomei & Invidia N1 are hella loud. What is your budget?

I am not sure what I got budget is maybe 1000 or 1500. Is that a good budget.

Harvir 10-01-2017 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dowroa (Post 2986218)

Thanks for the video i will watch it when i get home i really don’t know much about aftermarket stuff

NRXRaptor 10-01-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 86geek (Post 2986212)
Depends if you gonna add a header down the road. Adding header will be even louder. Join up with local ft86 club & check out some meets then you can hear different exhausts. Tomei & Invidia N1 are hella loud. What is your budget?

Only catless headers

Turdinator 10-01-2017 10:59 PM

Tomei 80R is loud. Invidia N1 is loud. Custom straight pipe is loud.

Teseo 10-01-2017 11:06 PM

When your neighboors are piss of, then you have loud exhaust

Harvir 10-01-2017 11:12 PM

What are headers, if they are something i can add later on i might.

Harvir 10-01-2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2986232)
When your neighboors are piss of, then you have loud exhaust

I want to make the car louder it sounds to quiet

Captain Snooze 10-01-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2986224)

It's true. I do usually like my opinions.

Ultramaroon 10-01-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 2986238)
It's true. I do usually like my opinions.

No. I mean it is functionally identical to your opinion.

Somerandom18 10-01-2017 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986233)
What are headers, if they are something i can add later on i might.

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Harvir 10-01-2017 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Somerandom18 (Post 2986248)
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StraightOuttaCanadaEh 10-01-2017 11:55 PM

Corsa exhaust is the one I have and it's fairly loud

Captain Snooze 10-02-2017 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2986242)
No. I mean it is functionally identical to your opinion.

Not if my opinion changes.
(And yes, I am getting lost with this argument.)

Ultramaroon 10-02-2017 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 2986271)
Not if my opinion changes.
(And yes, I am getting lost with this argument.)

That depends on whether or not I can draw enough similarities between your new opinion and your previous response to OP's questions.

humfrz 10-02-2017 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986207)
Hi i am looking to make my car more louder what is a good and a loud exhaust that i should buy for my car.But I don’t want to make it too loud either. :thanks:

I suggest you look into an axle back muffler ....... like nameless for example.

http://namelessperformance.com/


humfrz

86geek 10-02-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986225)
I am not sure what I got budget is maybe 1000 or 1500. Is that a good budget.

That's a good budget. You want loud then get either Invidia or Tomei.
Here's some links.

Invidia N1
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/invi...l#.WdJt9zVrzMg

Tomei 80, single exhaust
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/tome...l#.WdJuNTVrzMg

Tomei is LOUDEST! :eyebulge:

If you decide later to get a header buy a Perrin catback or Q9300 that way it won't be hella LOUD.

Perrin, 2.5 resonated.
https://www.86speed.com/products/per...k-exhaust.html

Perrin is loud when it needs to be even without a header. Good solid catback. I'll be adding a header in the future.

Invidia Q9300
https://www.86speed.com/performance/...ps-hs12sstg3s/

Q9300 is quiet on it's own. Add a header and it'll be louder when it needs to be. ;)

Join your local FT86 club and check out their meets. You can hear all kinds of exhaust systems and ask questions. ;)

bcj 10-02-2017 02:09 PM

Loud pipes save ... uh
audiologists new boat payments.

Tcoat 10-02-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2986284)
That depends on whether or not I can draw enough similarities between your new opinion and your previous response to OP's questions.

I am just shocked that you are still able to function after reading that several times.

86 South Africa 10-02-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986207)
Hi i am looking to make my car more louder what is a good and a loud exhaust that i should buy for my car.But I don’t want to make it too loud either. :thanks:

I got catless headers then a catless custom made header-back...
let's just say it rattles the windows like a thunder storm on a cold start. So don't go custom unless you really don't mind extra noise.

In design the header back is most similar to the Perrin I reckon.

DandoX 10-02-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986207)
Hi i am looking to make my car more louder what is a good and a loud exhaust that i should buy for my car.But I don’t want to make it too loud either. :thanks:

I would look into nameless exhaust set ups. Those get loud and are not too expensive. https://shop.namelessperformance.com...haust-brz-frs/

Sorry but I couldn't help it but
https://media0.giphy.com/media/2WNQ0N41BK5Us/giphy.gif
But I forgive you if English isn't your first language.

JazzleSAURUS 10-02-2017 03:51 PM

What are your actual goals, usage habits, and intent with your car?

If you want to add power either now or later, you need to consider a header. That's where the majority of the performance gains with this car come from until you're boosting it, or swapping a different motor in.

A catless header alone will gain a bunch of power and add a decent amount of volume, but the stock exhaust sounds pretty awful with it. If you can hear a catless header with a mild catback like the Invidia Q300, or GReddy Supreme SP you can get an idea of what a typical aftermarket setup on this car sounds like.

If you want it louder than that, get a louder catback. Invidia N1 and Tomei 80R are super loud examples, Perrin, MXP SP and Dezod are good examples of the catbacks that fill in the gap.

If you make a conservative choice with catback volume and you have a header and catback, and want it to be a bit louder, you can grab a front pipe. Getting a catless one will be much louder, but if it has a high flow cat, a resonator, (or two/both,) it will split the difference.

Edit: Nameless catback, 2.5" inlet with 5" mufflers is $650, and a JDL UEL Header is $750.

If you start there, you'll enjoy a bunch of extra volume, and still be able to add more with the front pipe if you see fit.
Intelligent part selection will help you gain power, lose weight, and tune the sound you want quite a bit.

Also keep in mind when you do a header you need to accommodate for tuning. You can have a local flash an OFT map on your ECU for likely $20 or a 6 pack. :)

Tcoat 10-02-2017 04:03 PM

Somebody needs to define "loud". The actual decibel levels on many exhausts are the same but some seem much louder than others. Tone can be more important than decibel level for what somebody is actually looking for in the sound. Just going loud for the sake of loud can be a big mistake.

Ultramaroon 10-02-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2986438)
I am just shocked that you are still able to function after reading that several times.

I did it for science but now I have cancer.

Tcoat 10-02-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2986519)
I did it for science but now I have cancer.

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Spuds 10-02-2017 09:21 PM

Drive with the rear seat down.

Jasonb 10-02-2017 10:22 PM

I'm using a catless JDL UEL header with an otherwise stock exhaust and I think it sounds good. Louder on cold start, and when you're getting on it, but when just cruising it isn't much louder than stock. I think it gives the otherwise stock exhaust a nice tone, and a nice subtle rumble. With a stage 2+ OFT tune it definitely added more HP and torque, and basically eliminated the torque dip. Not sure if I'll do a catback or not later on, but for now I'm happy.

Harvir 10-03-2017 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DandoX (Post 2986482)
I would look into nameless exhaust set ups. Those get loud and are not too expensive. https://shop.namelessperformance.com...haust-brz-frs/

Sorry but I couldn't help it but
https://media0.giphy.com/media/2WNQ0N41BK5Us/giphy.gif
But I forgive you if English isn't your first language.

English isn’t my first language lol

Harvir 10-03-2017 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS (Post 2986488)
What are your actual goals, usage habits, and intent with your car?

If you want to add power either now or later, you need to consider a header. That's where the majority of the performance gains with this car come from until you're boosting it, or swapping a different motor in.

A catless header alone will gain a bunch of power and add a decent amount of volume, but the stock exhaust sounds pretty awful with it. If you can hear a catless header with a mild catback like the Invidia Q300, or GReddy Supreme SP you can get an idea of what a typical aftermarket setup on this car sounds like.

If you want it louder than that, get a louder catback. Invidia N1 and Tomei 80R are super loud examples, Perrin, MXP SP and Dezod are good examples of the catbacks that fill in the gap.

If you make a conservative choice with catback volume and you have a header and catback, and want it to be a bit louder, you can grab a front pipe. Getting a catless one will be much louder, but if it has a high flow cat, a resonator, (or two/both,) it will split the difference.

Edit: Nameless catback, 2.5" inlet with 5" mufflers is $650, and a JDL UEL Header is $750.

If you start there, you'll enjoy a bunch of extra volume, and still be able to add more with the front pipe if you see fit.
Intelligent part selection will help you gain power, lose weight, and tune the sound you want quite a bit.

Also keep in mind when you do a header you need to accommodate for tuning. You can have a local flash an OFT map on your ECU for likely $20 or a 6 pack. :)

My goals with the car is to make it loud and fast

86geek 10-03-2017 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986785)
My goals with the car is to make it loud and fast

:laughabove:

JazzleSAURUS 10-03-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986785)
My goals with the car is to make it loud and fast

Well then order up the JDL turbo kit and a Tomei 80r, and catless front pipe. :burnrubber:

The turbo gets the fast side of things sorted out, but turbos do muffle a lot of the exhaust noise so you're free to get a more wild catback.

humfrz 10-03-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986782)
English isn’t my first language lol

@DandoX .........:slap:

English is NOT his first language .......can't YOU read ...... he's from Vancouver ........ his first language is either Canadian or Vantuckyian...... :D


humfrz

NRXRaptor 10-04-2017 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Harvir (Post 2986234)
I want to make the car louder it sounds to quiet

In case you haven't googled for yourself, headers are the pieces of piping that collect exhaust gas from the engine. They are the first bit of exhaust piping and as such play a big part in how the engine behaves. For this car you can get equal length (EL) and unequal length (UEL) headers with or without catalytic converters (cats).

Generally speaking, EL headers make more hp and maybe torque, but this occurs close to redline. UEL headers will give you a bump in torque in the middle of the rpm range, making them a great option for daily driven cars. Some people also enjoy the unique noise UEL headers make due to exhaust pulses colliding.

Cats convert uncombusted fuel to CO2 and H2O. This is good for emissions and the planet, as the carbon-hydrogen bonds in reduced organic molecules do a great job turning our planet's atmosphere into a greenhouse (the oxygen-hydrogen bonds in water do as well, making water vapor a potent greenhouse gas, though seeing as our planet is ~72% covered in water there is nothing to be done about that). Molecules such as methane, ethane, propane, and butane are potent greenhouse gases that are largely eliminated from vehicle exhaust thanks to cats.

However, cats also restrict airflow, lowering the rate at which air can flow through the intake, engine and exhaust. This means that the presence of cats lowers maximum potential power output, which is why racecars tend not to have them and why some car enthusiasts delete them from their exhaust. Many aftermarket exhaust bits - headers included - have catted and catless versions with the catted versions being high flow cats, providing a middle ground between restrictive oem cats and a catless setup.

Hopefully you are now better informed about headers

ffs I meant to quote this "What are headers, if they are something i can add later on i might," but I replied to you anyways


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