OFT Stage 2+ E85 v3.00 K00C vs Stage 2+ E85 v3.02 K00C
 

Howdy Everybody,

Just wondering if anyone has been using the latest OFT E85 tune for K00C (Stage 2+ E85 v3.02 K00C)???

v3.02 It's been released here second to last post by Shiv: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=121767&page=3

download directly here: Stage 2+ v3.02 E85 K00C.bin E85 v3.02 K00C.bin.zip

I've been having issues with getting romraider up an running so I only have my butt test to rely on and I'm not able to tell if v3.02 is an improvement over v3.00? Please reply if you have any experience with both tunes and would be awesome if you are using romraider and know the 411 on what changes have been made (Wish there was release notes)

Thank you CoOL forum people ^_^

I've been using it and the fuel trims seem more stable than on v3

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How can you have problems with RomRaider?
Install it, add the definition, open the files, hit compare.
It's no different than using MS Word or any other app.

They are an exactly copy.
You don't need RomRaider to see.
https://www.cjmweb.net/vbindiff/

You assume I have a decent computer :(

I haven't used my notebook in about a year, When I try to install RR it gets stuck and I have not the time to fiddle with my system to troubleshoot that problem.

Just saying ^_^

Wait what? V3.00 and v.302 are the same rom, exact copy?

Think he's saying the programs are the same? The tunes definitely aren't. There are changes to various maps. Can take screenshots if you want when I'm home.

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If you can find differences then you have the wrong files open.
The files you and Shiv uploaded are byte-for-byte exactly the same.

I'm a bit lost? Of course the file size would be the same for both bin files? Wayno you be kinda cryptic in your statements?

I'm not sure if byte-for-byte has anything to do with numerical (amusing they are numerical) values that may or may-not have been changed/tweaked in both rom/tune versions that may equate to gains or more stability differences between aforementioned OFT rom files. But then again, I've still not used RoadRaider so maybe I'm just ignorant of what you speak of? All roms I have are 1.3mb.

Maybe we are just misunderstanding one another? Most-likely me misunderstanding you as I'm a bit thick headed :bonk:

NOTE: I didn't upload 2 files? I only put the link for Shiv's original post and a link for a download for his new V3.02 E85 tun if people just want to grab it and not be linked to the post first. I never uploaded v3.0, its just kinda me amusing people using v3.0 already have it...:thumbsup:

If so we have been duped, did Shiv just rename v3.0 to v3.02 and scam us all :confused0068:

Considering he's provided the tune for free, not much of a "scam", is it? He could have changed the version number for any number of reasons the end-user would not see.

Like the older V2.x changes, they just incorporated new ROM compatibility rather than any changes in the tune. I'll assume the similar here.

That makes perfect since, Shiv you are redeemed LoL

Not really free for me. I'm a new user and just got my OFT. The v3.02 rom was the very first working E85 tune he provided to me and not really because I had to raise a stink on this forum before he got back to me with a working E85 tune for my 2017-BRZ (didn't really give to me just posted it on this forum). As advertised I purchased the OFT as it clearly stated that it supported 2017 86 models. I can understand that older units might get shipped out before they are updated like in my case, but it's a bit unprofessional that I had to personally hunt down a rom/tune that was originally suppose to be available out of box with my purchase :sigh:

BUT, I'm still happy with the product and gave it a 5-star review on the openflash website LoL ^_^

I've waited patiently almost a year for a stable 17 86 tune and I did't feel the need "to raise a stink on this forum". It's no secret that the 17 MT ROM's are significantly different from the 13-16's and also no secret that there has been a delay in getting them out because of that.

I'm surprised he supports the 17 at all, given the amount of crap he's gotten. I think he's nuts for not charging something for the tune given the time and resources he's put into it.

Directly form the OpenFlash webpage product description "Now supports all 2017 models, world-wide!" (http://www.openflashtablet.com/shop/oft-frs-brz-gt86/) Like most people, I just like it when people do what they say they are going to do... and from what I read 2017 support is a done deal unless this was just a money grab statement to sell more OFTs? He does charge something for his tunes $500 retail and the tunes are included in that price. Need I remind you of their "Free Tunes for Life" propaganda? The issue is making the tunes regularly available in a timely manner otherwise one could be mislead into a purchase and that buyers remorse is the real deal. NOTE: New OFTs are supposedly pre-installed with 2017 support but in my case of buying one form ft86speedfactory it is understandable that I got an older one without the 2017 support but regardless of that I only pull the trigger on my purchase because it clearly says that my car is supported :sigh:

Now that is nice that you have the patience to wait almost a year for a 2017 stable tune and I'm not sure about your situation surrounding your OFT purchase (Amusing you have one?)... but on the other hand, someone could have waited to update their product's details about how they now support 2017 models, world-wide!

"to raise a stink on this forum" just some playful banter, if you actually read my post, hopefully you understand that I'm not all crazy face over all this inconvenience surrounding 2017 OFT balderdash. This is just first world problem stuff anyway...

The point is = Pegasus Unicorns are SoOooOooo OP and where in the internet BRO...

Got a response about v3.0 and v3.02 being the same. Here it is copy paste from the email "We never released a v3.0 E85 tune. Just v3.01 and v3.02."

Since I have another email with a v3.0 e85 tune attached to it. I'm done emailing shiv. I'll just let them do what whatever they're doing.

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Didn't he say something about the tune missing a number after the 0 in the other thread?

I'm just waiting on tunes for the AT. :cry:

Contact Openflash. They should have those for months, just not on the webpage.

I did. About a month ago and about 2 weeks ago lol.

I feel your pain...

I got an answer in a day. Maybe I'm just lucky.

As D4FD quoted "Now supports all 2017 models, world-wide!", so that includes your US MY17 6AT K00D. So keep asking them until you get the files. btw yours is the same tune as for MY12-16, so totally different than the K00C discussion.

Got it on Friday. Technically same tune, but did they change the ECU rom like they did to the manuals?

Is the stage 2+ e85 tune safe for a completely stock car? Just making sure.

Yep I ran it without issue before doing anything significant. Stock header/intake/exhaust etc

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Are there v3 tunes for F00C? haven't seen any.

Is this a treasure hunt because I thought treasure hunts are supposed to be fun?
People keep talking about their v3 tunes and there are none on the website.

would u happen to have the definition file for the k00c?

I don't know what a definition file is? :(

definition file is the .xml file that you have to load into Rom Raider so that it knows how to read your tuning file... might be why you are having trouble with the RR software.

I tried to share it with google drive. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TdF...ew?usp=sharing
Let me know if you have trouble accessing it.

I'm running the Stage 2+ E85 v3.02 tune as of yesterday. My car is fully stock besides a catback. It is seeming to run pretty smoothly. Idle is a little strange; rpm will jump between 950-600rpm but besides that, it's stable. I also changed the Advanced Timing table B to make the car pop at engine load 0.15. So far so good!

You might not want to run the 2+ E85 tune as it is designed for use with a car that has headers. Having just a catback might be the reason for the strange idle. However, I'm no expert, so take my feedback with a grain of salt.

You can safely run the Stage 2+ E85 tune with stock headers. I've done quite a bit of dyno testing with it as well.

Update: Idle got better over time. Sometimes I'll get a CEL (P0171) for a lean idle when I let the car idle for a bit after a cold start, but once its warm its fine. So far no complaints. Only thing is I noticed that the MPG calculator is definitely off. I go through a tank in 4 days and it shows similar MPG to what i was getting on 93.

If you have stock intake vand your ethsanol content is between 60-90% you should not be throwing lean codes.


check your ltft and also commanded afr vs actual afr during acceleration




to correct mpg readout see here


Correcting In dash fuel economy readout when on E85

On OFT tunes the in dash fuel economy display will read 25-30% off on E85,to correct this adjust the Fuel_Multiplier_Display_Offset Table as per below (original values with 30% added) you may need to adjust this percentage slightly if you find the readout is still differs from actual

Note in your Definition the "Fuel Multiplier Display Offset" Table may be under the "BRZ ALPHA" folder