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LeBarge 09-04-2017 10:56 PM

Wide body with no engine mods?
 
So I've had my 16 FRS for almost two and I love the cars engine I don't want to do anything to it cause want to keep it as reliable as possible, but I also love the look of the wide body kits? So my question is how do you guys view cars that have body kits with nothing done to the drive train?

funwheeldrive 09-05-2017 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LeBarge (Post 2972933)
So I've had my 16 FRS for almost two and I love the cars engine I don't want to do anything to it cause want to keep it as reliable as possible, but I also love the look of the wide body kits? So my question is how do you guys view cars that have body kits with nothing done to the drive train?

Rice.

strat61caster 09-05-2017 01:13 AM

Do what you want.

Ultramaroon 09-05-2017 02:49 AM

Follow your bliss.

Mr.ac 09-05-2017 03:19 AM

It's your car do what you want.

Just know there will be many that would point and laugh. Just don't look at them. Just like the hella flush.... now it's "stance" crowd. Eh some people love circle jerk parking lot meets others love jerking solo going around on a track. To each their own.....or what ever gets you off.

Captain Snooze 09-05-2017 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2973058)
others love jerking solo going around on a porno clip.

Ftfy.

guybo 09-05-2017 07:27 AM

I never read that unwritten rule that rocket bunny has to be accompanied a turbo kit. I think you'll be fine

IDFWU 420 09-05-2017 09:05 AM

There's ton of people that does this without getting their engine modded.

Just do you man, who gives a fuck what other people are thinking about you, unless you're very insecure about yourself overall.

A build is a build, do what makes you happy.

mazeroni 09-05-2017 10:55 AM

I like the look for show cars, or vehicles that run wide tires because they have a turbo kit or conversion.

Personally, I couldn't look someone in the face and tell them it only makes 160-ish wheel hp, despite having massive tires.

Someone can fill me in (pun) with what width tires you should roll with when running a wide body kit. I feel like 295+ would be right. But seems like overkill for the power levels.

That's why I am generally against it. The whole all show no go is something I'm too insecure about.

But if you want to spend the cash, by all means. I only ask that you make no pretense about it. If someone catches you saying 'oh yea, its a wide body because it can beat an R35,' you get your car taken away from you.

TylerLieberman 09-06-2017 05:31 PM

I think the Rocket Bunny style over-flanders suck ass regardless of how fast or slow the car is. Personal preference though. Just like I want to vomit every time I see a car rolling down the street with no rear bumper and a giant chassis mount wing.

To each their own.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 09-06-2017 05:46 PM

Socially friendly answer: to each his own.

Honest answer: if you have the bark, you gotta have the bite. Take the extra time and save up to get both performance mods and the wide body kit. Just think of all the times people will ask you what's under the hood, and you explain and see the disappointment on their faces. It'll bother you every time.

LeBarge 09-07-2017 11:53 PM

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yeah this where I stand with my car I love what little power is does have and I can't justify the cost make it faster only to make up unreliable. But I'm also bored with the looks of the car, I'm thinking if I did I would do a RBv2 but glass it to just body and get rid of the bolted on look and as far as to how wide idd make the tires I wouldn't do a 335/30r18 like c10 has just enough to be tasteful and no wings and I wouldn't Put a loud exhaust on it agine just tasteful but something like the car in this picture

krayzie 09-08-2017 12:02 AM

Bosozoku is not tasteful to begin with. Its purpose is rebellious exaggeration.

Go big or go home.

LeBarge 09-08-2017 12:12 AM

I don't think idd ever go as far as Bosozoku style car with the crazy mile high exhaust tip or diving bored front spoiler with stretched 13-15inch wheels

Clipdat 09-08-2017 01:09 AM

RB kit but molded, no rivets.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8117/...53da5971_b.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/15/ac...2c5ae16ce3.jpg

LeBarge 09-08-2017 01:22 AM

That looks awesome. That's pretty much what I want minus the wing and I love those wheels

j3rf 09-08-2017 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2974862)

Oh wow. I actually don't like the RB kit, but this one looks good. Guess it's the rivets I don't care for.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 09-08-2017 10:25 AM

How much more does that cost?

Summerwolf 09-08-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2974862)

Easily the best looking RB I have ever seen. Most are hacked up and horrible. Unfortunately these kits take a lot to make them look good and maintain integrity.

Summerwolf 09-08-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2974946)
How much more does that cost?



That is a LOT of bodywork. If you have to ask......

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 09-08-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2974948)
That is a LOT of bodywork. If you have to ask......

yeah that's what I thought lol

Tcoat 09-08-2017 11:02 AM

Politically correct answer - Your car do whatever you want.
My opinion (as requested) - RB kit on a stock car is just pretending and the very definition of RICE. The kits were intended to allow larger wheels to be used with more power in race situations. You will not have a race car just because you riveted some panels on.


If you decide to go ahead you need to consider:


The change is permanent. You have to chop up the car and there is no going back.
You need to do it right. Many of the kits I have seen on cars (not just these) are cheap ass copies that don't fit right, fall apart in a stiff breeze and overall are just poorly installed. Spend the money and time to do it right or don't do it at all.


Just slapping a body kit on is not where it ends. You have to go with wider wheels and tires to fill that space (and no spacers do not work) then you have to do the suspension work required to handle those wheels. If you are one of those guys that think of the Twins as "slow" you have now added weight and with a stock driveline you just made it even slower.


To do things right you are going to pay at least $10K (if you want like the nice one above it probably doubled the price of the car). The RB kit actually will reduce the value of the car. If you don't care about taking a huge loss then that is fine but it needs to be understood you will loose at least the money you put into the parts and work. I get people think that they are going to keep the car forever and ever but if already bored of the looks what happens in 2 years when bored of the RB look and want something new?


Have you considered the alternatives? You can go with skirts, spoilers, lips and diffusers that will change the looks of the car without requiring it to be chopped up. By keeping the basic body the way it is you open things up to a narrower wheel, don't need to change the whole suspension (and the feel of the car that entails) and it doesn't require such a large loss in cash.

strat61caster 09-08-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2974948)
That is a LOT of bodywork. If you have to ask......

I have never ever cared for aftermarket flare kits, literally none look objectively (really subjectively) good imo.

But seeing that makes me think full flares on this car would look amazing. The super low red one posted before looks like a 370Z imo not too interesting. But that white/silver one...

Make 'em full flares, fix the gas cap so it's in plane, keep it at a reasonable height, small ducktail spoiler and no side skirts/lip/diffuser.

:drool:

I mean, I basically want an old ducktail 911

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...2-1280x960.jpg

LeBarge 09-08-2017 09:02 PM

Yeah that's basically what I want to do that kinda idea
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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2975184)
I have never ever cared for aftermarket flare kits, literally none look objectively (really subjectively) good imo.

But seeing that makes me think full flares on this car would look amazing. The super low red one posted before looks like a 370Z imo not too interesting. But that white/silver one...

Make 'em full flares, fix the gas cap so it's in plane, keep it at a reasonable height, small ducktail spoiler and no side skirts/lip/diffuser.

:drool:

I mean, I basically want an old ducktail 911

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...2-1280x960.jpg


VIP BRZ 09-08-2017 09:18 PM

Widebody Everything

https://www.rwb-hk.com/wp/wp-content...6683f23d_o.jpg

LeBarge 09-08-2017 11:38 PM

Well I do know what goes into it body work wise and it doesn't really scare me I've been work on hot rods since I was like ten and as far as getting money back if I sell the car you'll never get back what you put into it.
But I this is also my first Japanese car as well before that I drove a 72 Chevy c20 with a big cam small block v8 which is also getting a major overhaul, but I got my FRS for a few reasons
first I've always had a thing for small Japanese cars
Second I needed something that could last 300k miles
Thirdly something that got good gas mileage
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2974967)
Politically correct answer - Your car do whatever you want.
My opinion (as requested) - RB kit on a stock car is just pretending and the very definition of RICE. The kits were intended to allow larger wheels to be used with more power in race situations. You will not have a race car just because you riveted some panels on.


If you decide to go ahead you need to consider:


The change is permanent. You have to chop up the car and there is no going back.
You need to do it right. Many of the kits I have seen on cars (not just these) are cheap ass copies that don't fit right, fall apart in a stiff breeze and overall are just poorly installed. Spend the money and time to do it right or don't do it at all.


Just slapping a body kit on is not where it ends. You have to go with wider wheels and tires to fill that space (and no spacers do not work) then you have to do the suspension work required to handle those wheels. If you are one of those guys that think of the Twins as "slow" you have now added weight and with a stock driveline you just made it even slower.


To do things right you are going to pay at least $10K (if you want like the nice one above it probably doubled the price of the car). The RB kit actually will reduce the value of the car. If you don't care about taking a huge loss then that is fine but it needs to be understood you will loose at least the money you put into the parts and work. I get people think that they are going to keep the car forever and ever but if already bored of the looks what happens in 2 years when bored of the RB look and want something new?


Have you considered the alternatives? You can go with skirts, spoilers, lips and diffusers that will change the looks of the car without requiring it to be chopped up. By keeping the basic body the way it is you open things up to a narrower wheel, don't need to change the whole suspension (and the feel of the car that entails) and it doesn't require such a large loss in cash.


HSUBLU 09-09-2017 01:01 AM

"I want a Twin for good gas mileage" is not something that I would have said.

Tcoat 09-09-2017 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HSUBLU (Post 2975425)
"I want a Twin for good gas mileage" said no one... ever.

One of my key reasons for my getting it was indeed the gas mileage. If it was a gas hog I would have passed it up. If mileage wasn't important to me I would be on a Camaro forum right now laughing at all the slow ricers.

Captain Snooze 09-09-2017 04:58 AM

Why would you mod a car with no engine?

HSUBLU 09-09-2017 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2975432)
One of my key reasons for my getting it was indeed the gas mileage. If it was a gas hog I would have passed it up. If mileage wasn't important to me I would be on a Camaro forum right now laughing at all the slow ricers.

Fair. I just guess I personally don't consider 21/27 "good". "Okay" at best, but if I wanted "good" and still fun, I'd be back in a GTI.

Tcoat 09-09-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HSUBLU (Post 2975564)
Fair. I just guess I personally don't consider 21/27 "good". "Okay" at best, but if I wanted "good" and still fun, I'd be back in a GTI.

How about the 32 that I get? Driving conditions mean everything.

Lunatic 09-09-2017 09:43 AM

I ran the version 1 Rocket Bunny kit with 10" wheels for probably a year before I went more power.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 09-09-2017 10:25 AM

My 86 is even worse with gas than my old mini cooper s

strat61caster 09-09-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HSUBLU (Post 2975564)
Fair. I just guess I personally don't consider 21/27 "good". "Okay" at best, but if I wanted "good" and still fun, I'd be back in a GTI.

Sounds like you've never had a thirsty car. Lots of people have owned cars that could never get >20 mpg in even the most generous conditions.

To me anything that's consistently in the 20's on the street is 'good' or at the very least 'not bad'.

Tcoat 09-09-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lunatic (Post 2975585)
I ran the version 1 Rocket Bunny kit with 10" wheels for probably a year before I went more power.

Yes but in your case there was at least a plan to use the RB kit for the purpose in which it was designed. It is cars like yours that the pretenders want to look like but don't want to put in the cash or the work to have the real thing.

Summerwolf 09-09-2017 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2975432)
One of my key reasons for my getting it was indeed the gas mileage. If it was a gas hog I would have passed it up. If mileage wasn't important to me I would be on a Camaro forum right now laughing at all the slow ricers.

Most six speed ls cars get similar highway mileage if they're manuals :iono:

Tcoat 09-09-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2975626)
Most six speed ls cars get similar highway mileage if they're manuals :iono:

Yep. But not all look as good doing it.

LeBarge 09-09-2017 01:03 PM

Yeah as I've said before I don't mind the power the car puts out I would however like more grip I like drive it hard in the canyons and I find myself sliding from time to time and I love the mpg I averaged 34mpg on the way home yesterday and I don't want to build power that why in building my 72 Chevy c10 short bed and I want something that looks good and I can drive to work or on a road trip without worrying if something will brake

HSUBLU 09-09-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2975583)
How about the 32 that I get? Driving conditions mean everything.

Yeah, they do - I should also shift past 3rd gear at some point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2975609)
Sounds like you've never had a thirsty car. Lots of people have owned cars that could never get >20 mpg in even the most generous conditions.

To me anything that's consistently in the 20's on the street is 'good' or at the very least 'not bad'.

True. Everything is definitely relative. The thirstiest car I've owned is a WRX, so I suppose I can't really compare.

Tcoat 09-09-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSUBLU (Post 2975660)
Yeah, they do - I should also shift past 3rd gear at some point.



True. Everything is definitely relative. The thirstiest car I've owned is a WRX, so I suppose I can't really compare.

My worst was about 12 mpg on two carbs and about 8 when you kicked in the 3rd.

http://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...nt_3-4_Web.jpg


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