I need a solid aftermarket warrenty
 

Specifically to cover the motor and transmission I'm nervous when I see > 50k motors blowing

I have a 2013 brz with 34k

Have you messed with the engine .... i.e. FI .... ??

Do you track your car ... ??

If yes to either or both of the above, an extended warranty may be good for you.

If, no to both, I would suggest you rethink that option.

(from what I've read on this forum, most of the cars that blew engines, either have FI the engine and/or have extensively tracked the car)


humfrz

I wouldn't sweat it. Could it go? Sure but we only hear the bad news. The percentage that have had issues is probably under 1%. It is not the massive epidemic it would seem by reading here. Even an extended warranty isn't always going to help since they could just find some way to avoid paying. Perform proper maintenance and don't go nuts with adding power and the engine will likely last the life of the car.

If it helps, I'm at ~86k and haven't had any horrible problems. I did recently have to have the timing chain cover resealed just recently because there was a small oil leak that dripped on the exhaust manifold and smoked. I'm not sure how much it would have cost because I have the 7/100 CPO Gold Warranty that came with the car when I got it.

It's interesting to see this mindset.
What exactly do you think happens during tracking?
Are you confusing track events with hooning, donuts, burnouts, drifting, and other stupid ricer shit?

I do not track the car but I do have a 250mi commute through a few mountain passes and the car is driven.....spirited :)

I 100% service the car and do not defer maintenance stuff

ETA

Engine is bone stock but I would like to add headers and an E85 tune

As soon as you tune or chane parts the warranty would be denied anyway. Take the money you would pay and keep it in case you need to repair.

Track events are legal hooning.

If it's bone stock, you are totally fine, just don't money shift the thing. :cheers:

You have no clue, as usual.

Hooning means speeding, burnouts, doughnuts or screeching tires.
Do you know what track tires are for? They are sticky.

You don't slip and slide on a track unless you're about to go into the wall.

Look with your eyeballs at what real track driving looks like.
Most ricer idiots destroy their cars much worse in the Dunkin' parking lot.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVFqxTt4ag"]Buttonwillow Raceway 13CW - BMW E46 M3 - 1:58.6 Lap - GoPro - YouTube[/ame]

Lol uses the Wikipedia definition to the word to counter my joke. Truly an expert you are.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoon

With my limited experience, driving vehicles on and off the road, for the past 60 some years, it's my understanding, from what I've read, that "tracking" a vehicle, subjects the engine to prolonged high rpms and extreme heat. These two factors alone would accelerate engine wear and stress. Thus an extended warranty my be appropriate.

Although I do get confused about a lot of things, there ain't nutten wrong with my long term memory and I would venture to say I was "hooning, donuts, burnouts, drifting, and other stupid ricer shit" ....... while your father was still in diapers.

Of course, I told my brother and cousin to get off before I started ...... :D


humfrz

I would not say that tracking has any higher RPMs than the way people drive on back roads.
Do you think that people drive at redline or something?
You typically stay in 3rd or 4th gear, and shift accordingly.

Your four sessions typically last 20 minutes each.

Watch (and hear) the RPM readout in this video.
Does it look any different than what you do on the twisties on any given weekend?
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwmZPP4xkDk"]Buttonwillow Raceway Lap - YouTube[/ame]

You will usually see higher RPM for longer periods on the track.

Your car can handle running at 4k for 20 mins.

Be a blast to watch you go around the track at 4K. You truly do not have a clue on a single thing do you?

Running on a track for 20min at 4k is going to be a long 20 minutes, lol. Especially on a FR-S where you're in the torque dip....

Euhh, yes?!?
I did a lot of HPDE in my old RSX and was shifting 100-200 rpm before rev limiter, like almost everyone who is tracking their car is doing.
I haven't done any lapping yet in my BRZ, but I do a lot of autocross, and I often bump a couples of time on the rev limiter, because a shift to 3rd is not beneficial. All fast drivers will do that in autocross.

As for the OP, I don't see how an aftermarket warranty will be economically viable. You will surely end up paying the same amount of money an engine repair would cost you.

You, my friend, have never driven a track, yet are on the internet arguing about driving on the track.
You are as clueless as the internet gets.

Right, and then what did you do?
YOU SHIFTED

You would be running 4k-7k where peak power lives. Even in the video you posted the E46 is running higher than 4k

Guys, lets end this argument,. Get a 4.88 or 5.1 final drive and your car will never be below 5k rpm ever at the track, since you only use 3-5 gears :popcorn:

I have the same problem you described and the dealer quoted me about 1k to fix it. Mainly due to the labor involved cause they remove the engine from the car.

True I have not tracked this car. I won't because I find the extra wear and risk of damage unacceptable due to it's importance for my work. That does not mean for one second I have never tracked a car. If you are tracking this car at 4K then you are going to piss off every other driver there since by the time they have lapped you 3 or 4 times they will have had enough of you.

What if your car is a diesel??

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I said 4k to 6k. Then in one post I say 4k. Do you really think you run a track at exactly 4k the entire time?
You clearly know nothing about this subject. How can one person constantly miss the point entirely?
You clearly have a learning disability. Watch the 2 videos I posted. Does that look like abuse?

NOBODY SAID IT WAS ABUSE!

I've seen several posters here refer to tracking as abuse. Like it's the worst thing you can do to a car. Meanwhile, the same people will buy a car that has been modded and hooned. That level of ignorance is overwhelming and it warranted posting a new thread.

Anyone with half a brain can see the track videos I posted and decide for themselves. For the rest of you, best of luck buying modded trash heaps that have "never been tracked". LMFAO.

Nobody anyplace said it was abuse. They said it causes faster wear and increases the risk of mechanical failure. It does. That is not disputable.

I asked and they said they don't pull the motor. I wanted to have them change the spark plugs and do a few other minor things that are easier with it out but they said all they do is make room up front and that's it. Plug change would have been over $200 :(

Actually, they do drive at redline... and I drive at way higher RPMs than normal.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnEnPtpIUms"]Laguna Seca Raceway - 27 December 2014 Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr3901PZCQA"]2:07.152 - Buttonwillow Raceway Park - 9 April 2016 - YouTube[/ame]

You can't see it in this video but at ACS you spend upwards of 15-25 seconds at redline in 5th gear in a stock car. 6th and you basically hit an aerodynamic brick wall.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gywVprzgCas"]2:03.94 - Auto Club Speedway (Roval) w/ Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

Still waiting for a reply on this.

I do not see anyone in your videos "driving at redline"
You don't drive at redline. You shift gears. Then you're not at redline.

Only time it can happen is on the straight, and you've pegged top gear.
Most people just get into 5th and a few seconds later, the straight is over.
How long does that last? A few seconds, if that ever even happens.
Unless your tracks have 2 mile long straights.

So if I shift at redline, I still am driving at redline right?

Like 0.1 seconds at redline each shift? That's still driving at redline, right?

You didn't specify if it was "driving at redline a portion of the time" or "driving at redline all the time". Since you're so good at being technical, please enlighten us on your newfound terminology of describing "driving at redline"

If yes to either, NO it would not be a good option, because most of the time, those would not cover modifications or failures due to tracking, racing, whatever you want to call it.

It would be a better waste of money to get the coverage on a non-modified, non-tracked vehicle.

However I would not recommend it either way, since it's basically unnecessary insurance.

Save money in a high-interest online savings account that is easily accessible for future unforeseen repairs.

What are the symptoms of this, do you just start seeing smoke coming from your engine/exhaust manifold area?

How much oil leaked, did this cause a loss in oil pressure?

So did they just have to partially lift the engine to fix this?

Thanks in advanced

I saw wisps of smoke coming from the oil that dripped on the exhaust.

So little leaked out that it still showed as being fine when I checked it. In fact I had checked it just a few days before I noticed the smoke and didn't see that there was a problem. Then again I wasn't looking for one just pulled the dipstick and checked.

No lift at all. Apparently they just remove some stuff from the front, pull the cover and reseal. It's not a gasket just silicone so all they have to do is have access to clean the old and reapply.

gtfo u pleb. u dont own a porCHe that has torque out the wazoo in midrange? PPffFFffFFFfff u prolly can't drive as well. *ends sarcasm*