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palanza87 08-30-2017 09:20 PM

Hey guys, where on earth are you buying parts?
 
Okay so I bought a 2013 Scion FRS recently. I had a lower control arm break and it caused damage to my cv axle in the rear. So I'm looking at every part store around and to my surprise I can't find any rear drive side axles. Not for my frs or for a 13 brz. So I go looking online and all I can find are performance parts. What the heck? Where can I get an axle replacement?

Thanks so much!

edit: well i found them on the OEM website but I have to laugh at the prices lol 350.00.. the thing is nearly identical to one off of my work car that costs about 79.99.. lmao

LudwigMiles 08-31-2017 12:09 AM

Welcome to the world of insanely overpriced Japanese car parts strictly controlled by dealerships.
You have 2 options, getting raped for OE parts at the dealership or getting cheap junk at Autozone.

If you think I am kidding, read this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121403

Silver Cervy 08-31-2017 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2970852)
Welcome to the world of insanely overpriced Japanese car parts strictly controlled by dealerships.
You have 2 options, getting raped for OE parts at the dealership or getting cheap junk at Autozone.

If you think I am kidding, read this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121403

Yep, most of the time if something breaks it's better to just upgrade to performance parts. Stuff like this is why I wouldn't buy anything earlier than 2015 so I could still have warranty.

j3rf 08-31-2017 01:24 AM

Why don't you try one of those $79.99 axles from your work car and see how well it works.

e1_griego 08-31-2017 01:26 AM

Used oem axles are ~$75 shipped on ebay.

Ernest72 08-31-2017 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Cervy (Post 2970854)
Yep, most of the time if something breaks it's better to just upgrade to performance parts. Stuff like this is why I wouldn't buy anything earlier than 2015 so I could still have warranty.

I have an 04 WRX with 120K miles. No warranty and no payments for 9 years. No issues either. Car is stage 2 and a lot faster than my BRZ. So if you buy good cars and maintain them well it pays you back despite expensive car parts.

jasonojordan 08-31-2017 09:52 AM

I got a used axle here on this very forum you are crying on about where do you get your parts. $60 for an axle with 10k miles.

Submarinesonce 08-31-2017 10:39 AM

if it breaks, it gets upgraded

extrashaky 08-31-2017 11:23 AM

Used axles for our cars start at $100 on car-part.com. There are several pages of them that just say "call" for the price, so there may even be some cheaper ones. The prices you find there are often negotiable.

palanza87 09-01-2017 01:58 AM

Phew couple rando salty ass people on here.

To the others, yeah good advice. I found used ones to be a lot more affordable. In the end I just fixed the spline on mine myself. Hopefully I don't break anything else anytime soon. In other news, was happily surprised at how easy the differential was to drop from the car.

mav1178 09-01-2017 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2970775)
edit: well i found them on the OEM website but I have to laugh at the prices lol 350.00.. the thing is nearly identical to one off of my work car that costs about 79.99.. lmao


http://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru_201...8411CA010.html

MSRP is $208.67

A dealership in NY sells it for $143.98 new.
https://parts.donaldsonssubaru.com/p...wd=&origin=pla

Good luck with your work car axle that's nearly the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2970852)
Welcome to the world of insanely overpriced Japanese car parts strictly controlled by dealerships.
You have 2 options, getting raped for OE parts at the dealership or getting cheap junk at Autozone.

If you think I am kidding, read this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121403

I get the feeling you two can form a dynamic duo to combat dealership theft! While you are at it, please change the parts industry and start a parts revolution!

palanza87 09-01-2017 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2971400)
http://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru_201...8411CA010.html

MSRP is $208.67

A dealership in NY sells it for $143.98 new.
https://parts.donaldsonssubaru.com/p...wd=&origin=pla

Good luck with your work car axle that's nearly the same.



I get the feeling you two can form a dynamic duo to combat dealership theft! While you are at it, please change the parts industry and start a parts revolution!

That's a lot more reasonable than the subaru parts website I was on yesterday.

Also why are you getting so butthurt over my part price comments? Its pretty simple: I'm used to paying a lot less for equally well made parts for my mustang. ALSO i'm used to being able to drive up the road and get the part same day. This all has to be ordered. I mean these are facts. It was a little shocking to see the 350$ prices yesterday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2970942)
I got a used axle here on this very forum you are crying on about where do you get your parts. $60 for an axle with 10k miles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3rf (Post 2970864)
Why don't you try one of those $79.99 axles from your work car and see how well it works.


Phew you guys get triggered pretty easy around here

mav1178 09-01-2017 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2971404)
Also why are you getting so butthurt over my part price comments? Its pretty simple: I'm used to paying a lot less for equally well made parts for my mustang. Phew you guys get triggered pretty easy around here

Me? I could care less about where you get your parts from, but since you added the tidbit about your $79.99 axle off your work car that's nearly the same, I am just sending you best wishes in case it works nearly as good as OEM.

The second part of my comment was mostly directed at Ludwig, who comes in here all high and mighty thinking he knows more about Japanese car parts than most others replying in his thread.

palanza87 09-01-2017 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2971406)
Me? I could care less about where you get your parts from, but since you added the tidbit about your $79.99 axle off your work car that's nearly the same, I am just sending you best wishes in case it works nearly as good as OEM.

The second part of my comment was mostly directed at Ludwig, who comes in here all high and mighty thinking he knows more about Japanese car parts than most others replying in his thread.

I was just making an observation. I've handled a lot of axles/cv joints and they were pretty similar. But like I said I was staring at a 350.00 price tag. 150 is a lot more reasonable.

mav1178 09-01-2017 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2971404)
Also why are you getting so butthurt over my part price comments? Its pretty simple: I'm used to paying a lot less for equally well made parts for my mustang. ALSO i'm used to being able to drive up the road and get the part same day. This all has to be ordered. I mean these are facts.

Since you edited, here's the answer to your question:

In 2006, Ford sold 166,530 Mustangs in the US and 9,150 in Canada.

The FRS/86/BRZ sold in North America combined for MY 2013 - present has not even hit the amount of Mustangs sold in a single calendar year.

Which would have cheaper parts? I'm sure you can figure out the rest... so don't compare a car that's more popular than a Prius to the FRS/86/BRZ because it's not a good comparison in an industry where volume = cheaper prices.

Tcoat 09-01-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2971404)
That's a lot more reasonable than the subaru parts website I was on yesterday.

Also why are you getting so butthurt over my part price comments? Its pretty simple: I'm used to paying a lot less for equally well made parts for my mustang. ALSO i'm used to being able to drive up the road and get the part same day. This all has to be ordered. I mean these are facts. It was a little shocking to see the 350$ prices yesterday.






Phew you guys get triggered pretty easy around here

Your timing was just bad because you came in on the tail of another guy that has already been mentioned.

I am glad you mentioned the Mustang because it gives a better reference point that "work car". No doubt you understand that price depends on mass production. There are probably 30,000 Mustangs out there for every Twin. The Mustang is so common that you can indeed drive down to the corner parts store and pick up parts. The Twins not so much. Many of those parts store parts are mass produced aftermarket parts and they can be made cheap because of the volumes. Many of the parts in the Twins are dedicated to the very small production runs and nobody is interested in making cheap aftermarket stuff for them because they just simply would not sell enough to be worthwhile. This is simple economics. These parts will never be as inexpensive as Mustang parts.

Nobody here was butthurt" and it is pretty ironic that you were so triggered by people you claim were triggered.


Edit: I didn't read far enough before replying. So... What Mav said.

jasonojordan 09-01-2017 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2971407)
I was just making an observation. I've handled a lot of axles/cv joints and they were pretty similar. But like I said I was staring at a 350.00 price tag. 150 is a lot more reasonable.

trigged no, annoyed yea. Every day people come on here commenting/complaining about the price of parts for these cars so excuse my short fuse when someone under 100 posts come in and starts a thread thats been made 100's of times.

Tcoat 09-01-2017 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2971448)
trigged no, annoyed yea. Every day people come on here commenting/complaining about the price of parts for these cars so excuse my short fuse when someone under 100 posts come in and starts a thread thats been made 100's of times.

Checking parts availability and cost should be one of the top priorities when researching a new car. Especially a low production niche vehicle. It doesn't matter what a ball joint for your 1997 F150 costs compared to a Subaru part since the production numbers are so far apart.
I can understand the sticker shock to some extent but that shock should come before buying the car not after. We get dozens of posts a month by people thinking of buying the car but I do not recall a single one asking about the availability and price of parts. They wait until after buying and then are surprised.

LudwigMiles 09-01-2017 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2971404)
I mean these are facts.

Facts don't mean much around here.

The simple fact is that dealer parts for BRZ cost a lot more than OEM online European parts.
You can cite examples, and post links, but these guys don't care. Stockholm Syndrome 101.

bcj 09-01-2017 01:37 PM

Pricing similar parts for a Maserati or Porsche would show parts for the twins in a more favorable light.
Vs. a Malibu or Galaxy.

Tcoat 09-01-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcj (Post 2971625)
Pricing similar parts for a Maserati or Porsche would show parts for the twins in a more favorable light.
Vs. a Malibu or Galaxy.

Apparently, according to Ludwig, an alternator for a Porsche costs around $79. He should know since he has owned them all.

mav1178 09-01-2017 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2971600)
Facts don't mean much around here.

Then why are you still here if you don't care for facts?

LudwigMiles 09-01-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2971639)
Apparently, according to Ludwig, an alternator for a Porsche costs around $79. He should know since he has owned them all.

Like I said facts don't mean much around here.

I said a BMW alternator is $139. Then I provided a link.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=93

Yes, I have owned them all. Then I posted a photo with my car running.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=53

Like I said facts don't mean much around here.

Slammillionaire 09-01-2017 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2971693)
Like I said facts don't mean much around here.

I said a BMW alternator is $139. Then I provided a link.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=93

Yes, I have owned them all. Then I posted a photo with my car running.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=53

Like I said facts don't mean much around here.

https://www.google.com/search?biw=14...08.1jt6TEjsbqw

Beachin86 09-01-2017 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire (Post 2971697)

QUIT POSTING FACTS! :lol:

Slammillionaire 09-01-2017 04:16 PM

FRS OEM alternator: $400

BMW oem alternators: anywhere between $500-$1000

Tcoat 09-01-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2971693)
Like I said facts don't mean much around here.

I said a BMW alternator is $139. Then I provided a link.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=93

Yes, I have owned them all. Then I posted a photo with my car running.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=53

Like I said facts don't mean much around here.

OK $139 for a REMANUFACTRED alternator. You think that is OE? They use rebuilt parts at the factory? You think that you could not get a rebuilt Subaru one for the same price? FACT - A new BMW alternator costs as much or more that a Subaru. If you are getting it way cheaper it is not the real thing.

So a picture of one running car means you owned "them all"? Did your dad give you permission to start his car to take the picture? Is there some poor baffled stranger wondering why you asked if you could take a picture? Were the cars so far apart that you had to fold the paper and carry it around in your pocket for a while between shots? FACT - A single picture is not proof of owning one much less "all" the Porsches as you claim.

LudwigMiles 09-01-2017 05:20 PM

The point is Japanese dealers control the parts supply chain.
You probably can't even buy a reman alt since the market does not exist.

Get it into your brain that dealerships mark up parts and are more expensive.
Pick any part, and it's more expensive at the Japanese car than the OEM online vendor.

Yes, the paper was folded into my pocket as I changed cars into my work space.

Tcoat 09-01-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2971747)
The point is Japanese dealers control the parts supply chain.
You probably can't even buy a reman alt since the market does not exist.

Get it into your brain that dealerships mark up parts and are more expensive.
Pick any part, and it's more expensive at the Japanese car than the OEM online vendor.

Yes, the paper was folded into my pocket as I changed cars into my work space.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=subar...&client=safari

You are convinced of some worldwide parts conspiracy that just does not exist.

mrg666 09-01-2017 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2970775)
Okay so I bought a 2013 Scion FRS recently. I had a lower control arm break and it caused damage to my cv axle in the rear. So I'm looking at every part store around and to my surprise I can't find any rear drive side axles. Not for my frs or for a 13 brz. So I go looking online and all I can find are performance parts. What the heck? Where can I get an axle replacement?

Thanks so much!

edit: well i found them on the OEM website but I have to laugh at the prices lol 350.00.. the thing is nearly identical to one off of my work car that costs about 79.99.. lmao

To me, $350 is a totally normal price. Those never break for more than 99% of the owners anyway. If you don't like it, get rid of your car and drive the Mustang. And tell us how you like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2970852)
Welcome to the world of insanely overpriced Japanese car parts strictly controlled by dealerships.
You have 2 options, getting raped for OE parts at the dealership or getting cheap junk at Autozone.

If you think I am kidding, read this:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121403

insanely overpriced? raped? How about outrageous? ... that is ... yourself

Sapphireho 09-01-2017 07:06 PM

The threads like this remind me of the biggest peeve of a friend of mine that owns a tire shop. People come in with a performance car that has $700 a piece tires on it and they expect to replace them with $50 tires.


Do your homework before buying a car.

extrashaky 09-01-2017 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2971734)
Were the cars so far apart that you had to fold the paper and carry it around in your pocket for a while between shots?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2971747)
Yes, the paper was folded into my pocket as I changed cars into my work space.

NOW it makes sense. He works with cars. Detailer maybe? I thought it was just a photochop, but he's just carrying around a piece of paper in his pocket waiting for a chance to vacuum out the next sports car.

Fucking liar.

BaatLuk 09-02-2017 12:42 AM

5-star thread, educational and funny! The twins are some of the most affordable and reliable sports cars in the market currently. Anyone who complains about how much it costs to keep the car running probably hasn't owned many other sports cars. Gotta pay to play

palanza87 09-02-2017 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaatLuk (Post 2971914)
5-star thread, educational and funny! The twins are some of the most affordable and reliable sports cars in the market currently. Anyone who complains about how much it costs to keep the car running probably hasn't owned many other sports cars. Gotta pay to play

lol i have a mustang with 20k just in the engine/trans


Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 2971794)
To me, $350 is a totally normal price. Those never break for more than 99% of the owners anyway. If you don't like it, get rid of your car and drive the Mustang. And tell us how you like it.

A lot faster ;)

@ everyone bellyaching --- I mean if someone unknowingly posts something that's so upsetting.. why not just ignore it.. seems like an easier way to save yourself the trouble :bonk:

Also yeah, its interesting to see how expensive parts are for say BMW and Porsche. I would have to say there is a limit though to where you are paying more for the fact that it is a Porsche than say the quality of the part.

Just because something is super expensive doesn't mean its super better. Scarcity plays a big role. Which is probably why parts are expensive for this car. Because toyota/sube knows they can get so much for them. Which should bother you a little bit, I mean its like sorta being taken advantage of isnt it lol. Just my opinion.

mrg666 09-02-2017 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palanza87 (Post 2971939)
lol i have a mustang with 20k just in the engine/trans




A lot faster ;)

@ everyone bellyaching --- I mean if someone unknowingly posts something that's so upsetting.. why not just ignore it.. seems like an easier way to save yourself the trouble :bonk:

Also yeah, its interesting to see how expensive parts are for say BMW and Porsche. I would have to say there is a limit though to where you are paying more for the fact that it is a Porsche than say the quality of the part.

Just because something is super expensive doesn't mean its super better. Scarcity plays a big role. Which is probably why parts are expensive for this car. Because toyota/sube knows they can get so much for them. Which should bother you a little bit, I mean its like sorta being taken advantage of isnt it lol. Just my opinion.

Bellyaching is a funny word. I think butthurt is funnier though.

So Mustang is your favorite? Have fun!

NOI 09-02-2017 09:34 AM

Hey guys...I paid for a high mileage warranty to try and avoid a big loss on repairs, but I think I'll take a big loss on a trade in (including the warranty) because I don't want to use the warranty. This is based on my lack of ability using Google, and misinformation from internet trolls.

Who's with me?!?!?!

*(I'm typically less of an asshole...but cmon)

Somerandom18 09-02-2017 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOI (Post 2971974)
Hey guys...I paid for a high mileage warranty to try and avoid a big loss on repairs, but I think I'll take a big loss on a trade in (including the warranty) because I don't want to use the warranty. This is based on my lack of ability using Google, and misinformation from internet trolls.

Who's with me?!?!?!

*(I'm typically less of an asshole...but cmon)

Same boat.. I could have gotten a set of wheels and tires for the price I paid for that damn extended warranty. Oh well what can we do.. 😕

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

palanza87 09-02-2017 01:02 PM

the mustang is a different kind of fun. these cars compliment each other well

LudwigMiles 09-02-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2971771)
https://www.google.ca/search?q=subar...&client=safari

You are convinced of some worldwide parts conspiracy that just does not exist.

Duralast is not OEM, Rufus

LudwigMiles 09-02-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2971820)
NOW it makes sense. He works with cars.
.

Yes, I do work with cars. Mine.
It's called my garage, you hallucinatory brain damaged Anime manboy with a grenaded ricer engine.
The BRZ does not stay in there, only the German cars do.
So, when I needed to clean the rusty bolts on the BRZ, I switched the BRZ into the work space.


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