Cricket Sound Poll AFTER October 2016 TSB completed
 

So some confusion still exists that this TSB helps and some said they still get crickets after the October 2016 TSB. Hopefully this poll will help those decide wether it's worth their wile to get this done or just leave as is. I figure after a year we should have a good idea of the effectiveness of this "Redesigned" Pump.

Simple question; Do you still hear crickets AFTER getting the latest pump as listed in the October 2016 TSB? FOR 2013- (early) 2016 CARS ONLY

Yes. I got them to go away with three ounzes per fill up of Idemitsu Premix for Mazda rotarys I had sitting around from my 7 and 8.

Been 6 months now on the redesigned fuel pump and no crickets. When the dealership is going to work on your car, you have to either print the TSB for them or let them know there is a recently revised one. If you don't, they may refer to the older TSB with the older style pump. It almost happened to me. I personally had to talk to the lead tech and let him know what's going on. Toyota rarely works on these cars and hardly check up on new TSBs for Scion.

MY14 owner. Had crickets since new. Got the fuel pump replaced in 03/17. No crickets yet.

Answer: Maybe this is going to be too hard to do here. Is there any other way to ask this question and get real answers because I am thinking that 5 out of 11 so far really are not actually sure what happened to their cars.
In fact if I believe with a poll like this and we ask "what color is your car" we may end up with people answering that they like green shirts or brown dogs.

For the record I had the pump changed out I believe around December and afterwards no crickets have returned.

Mine is starting to sound like a mild case of crickets, definitely not as bad as before.

About 9k on the new HPFP.

My '16 had terrible crickets about 300 miles after driving it off the dealer lot. Even through the winter. The redesigned fuel pump was installed about 4 months ago and the crickets have not returned, but the pump does get louder when it kicks on at idle. It's just a much louder ticking sound, though, instead of the cricket chirp.

I'll second this. About 8k now since replacing the pump in November. The crickets are back, but they sound like they've been muffled.

That isn't the pump. That is the injectors changing over. The pump is cam driven and on all the time so it doesn't kick in at idle.

Yeah, the DI injectors are noisy for sure, but always have been. This new noise is the pump. You're right, it isn't because the pump is 'kicking on', but just like when the crickets would only come on at idle when the direct injectors started firing, the new pump makes a loud mechanical noise instead. My point is, for those pondering the new pump TSB, the pump is still noisy (as most, if not all, HPFPs are), but it isn't crickets.

My improvised fix was after the TSB pump started chirping three months after the January replacement. Hopefully that's more clear.

It's been about 6 months since my last fuel pump replacement in Jan. No crickets since. I've also only used Shell 91oct...except for several occasions I had to use some other generic gas but no issues at all!

they returned worse than they were within 900 miles. sitting at a light is embarrassing. The fact that the chiing is worse (using Shell 91 octane) makes me want to blow the damn car up. A new car (~12500 miles) should not be making these sounds. especially since it's been going on from 2013.

Go to the dealer and have them do the pump again.

For hose that have had the pump replaced but still get the chirp I'd keep taking it back until they get it right.

I don't know if this helps anyone, but I've found that different gas affects the amount of chirping I get. Shell 93 Octane, Valero 93 Octane, and Exxon 93 Octane make my car sound like a symphony at a stop light. However, when I use Texaco/ Chevron 93 Octane my car almost never chirps unless it's 95+ degrees out and even then it's pretty faint. Could just be my BRZ, though...

last month I heard my 17 brz making this chirping sound. I thought they would have fixed this problem by now. It annoyed me and my car was barely at 3,500. I was told I should try filling different gas.

Ever since I got the car I was filling up with Shell 91 (socal crap) I switched to Chevron 91 and it's been 2 fills and over 600 miles or so I haven't heard the crickets. Plus for some reason car felt better on chevron (butt dyno feels)

I heard Shell is actually getting sue now for gas quality or some shit, atleast on the south west of US, it's better to stick with chevron. Unless you love crikets & how intune your car is with nature. :bonk:

That's good to know :thumbup::thumbup:

Not sure where you heard it but the only thing I could find was in Canada and that was 14 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Canada_lawsuit


It isn't a "quality" issue that causes the chirps anyway it is the ethanol level. We have seen time and time again that what one person says works for them somebody else says something else says the exact opposite. If a certain brand works locally then that is what is best there but it can not be held as accurate across the board.

I 2nd this. I'm in Ca so best I can find is 91 octane. I hear chirps every now and again but it's pretty rare and only in the heat. I always get chevron, I've heard that shell 91 also can stop the chirps for the most part. I'm at 67k now and I swear I hear them far less than when I was at lower mileage, I have always used the same chevron gas.

That being said the chirps are not that big a deal just a little noise which these cars make plenty of in spades from all over. Learn to love them, I did :)

DEATH TO THE CRICKETS!!!

Interesting so far how this is the third version of the pump and still getting the crickets. I hope those voting are responding after having the October 2016 pump redesign installed not the one from 2015. I'm using Sunoco 93 and been hot and humid here but the pump is cricket free. :iono:

Four pumps later and have been cricket free for the last 20,000+ miles.

Just got the pump done,....noise is still there.

It's been 2 weeks now since the replacement, crickets did not come back.

Go back til they get it right

is the TSB performed under warranty only if the car is less than 60 months old or less than 60,000 miles (whichever one comes first)?

My car only has 24k on it, but the first owner bought it in mid July 2012, which means it's just over 60 months old. Can I still get the TSB done for free?

Also, my cricket sound comes on very rarely... if the tech can't replicate the cricket noise during inspection, will they still replace the pump? Or should i just keep the one i have since it only comes on every so often?

The TSB has a specified build date range of all VINs affected. Im sure your car will fall under that and if you are still under warranty they will fix it for free. Also, im not really sure what kind of warranty you have, but the manufacture warranty is only 3 years or 36,000 miles whichever comes first. Depending on your dealership they might swap the fuel pump even they cant replicate the sound. Also, just drive the car for like 15-20 minutes and the chirping should be there and then take it in.

My fuel pump was swapped out back in July and ive driven a few thousand miles already and i have no crickets.

i believe the powertrain warranty is 5 years or 60k miles... if tht is the case, i'm out of the warranty period... my VIN is affected tho

stop trying to fix a problem that's mostly US/Canada only, maybe ask gas company. XD


Ok i will walk out now, don't slap me. :scared0016:

i have a 2017 brz, purchased March 7, and oh boy does it have crickets

Wow! Looks like a hit or miss with the Oct 2016 revised TSB. Has anyone gotten the March 2017 TSB performed? Looks like it has the same part number though as the Oct 2016 TSB part# SU003-07326.

A few questions. Are the fuel pumps marked with the new part #'s? If so, do the fuel pumps have both the Toyota and Subaru part #'s? It would also be interesting to know what percentage of failures to the survey are Subaru vs Scion since Subaru has not updated their Service Bulletin.

Hi Just wanted to chime in,

Im in CA, and gas stations have possibly switched to winter blends for fuel? (please correct me)

i had the TSB performed on my BRZ around May time frame and usually fill with chevron, or 76 and have no crickets.

recently filled with Shell and crickets have returned....
:(

I’m also in California as well and I switched to Arco, stuck with it and never got the crickets back. Finding the right gas brand seems to be the hassle free method of getting around the “issue”. Don’t think the blend matters. And I can confirm Shell does bring out the chirps.

I had my pump replaced with the new model this past spring, but the crickets just returned. Before the pump was replaced I had become used to the crickets and didn't really mind it so much, but driving without them for the past several months has been nice and now that it's back I find the sound very annoying.

I have a 13 FRS and since using 93 Esso which is now ethanol free, I don't get any crickets at all

I was talking to a guy with a 17 BRZ with 10k km and he has crickets

It's odd, i can go months without crickets then it'll show up all of a sudden. Must be different formulations of gasoline though im in CA and can't imagine it changes that much throughout the seasons. i almost always fill up at the shell station (91 octane) near my house.