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btan219 06-20-2017 08:35 AM

Washer fluid not spraying out
 
Bought a MY15 BRZ in May and found out the washer fluid isn't spraying out. I put a thumbtack through the holes and also topped off the liquid but nothing still comes out. Any ideas on what I should do?

jasonojordan 06-20-2017 09:15 AM

Well you can start by checking to see if the pump is getting power. At the very least if you do not know how to run a meter have someone actuate the sprayer button and listen for the pump to try and pump.

Ideally should just unplug the pump and have someone actuate the spray button check for power that will tell you if you have power headed there and if you need to look for a fuse or other issues or if the issue is with the pump itself (not likely) or if you have a plugged line before the spray nozzles (possible)

guybo 06-20-2017 10:50 AM

http://www.autogenius.info/scion-fr-...e-box-diagram/

Engine compartment 10A Fuse #6, Windshield Washer pump


Also check the lines and make sure it isn't pinched off

SlowCarFast 06-20-2017 11:09 AM

Check and make sure you can hear the pump running first.

If you can:
Check the lines. If you don't find a problem with the lines, check the tank.

If you cannot hear the pump running:
Check the fuse.
Check that the coupler is full set on the pump.
Check that the coupler is getting power.


Report back your findings

btan219 06-21-2017 12:25 AM

When the spray button was actuated, I heard the sound like it was spraying something. What specifically should I be checking for? I'm not car savvy at all so I'm not sure what are the lines and what I should actually be checking for.

humfrz 06-21-2017 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by btan219 (Post 2932451)
When the spray button was actuated, I heard the sound like it was spraying something. What specifically should I be checking for? I'm not car savvy at all so I'm not sure what are the lines and what I should actually be checking for.

Obviously, make sure the washer container is full of fluid ..... :D

Well, if you can hear the pump running when you push the button, that indicates that it is getting power. Now, if the fluid isn't coming out of the nozzle up by the windshield, either the pump is just running and not pumping the fluid or the lines to the nozzles are stopped up (or kinked) or the nozzle is plugged.

I'd suggest you start with the nozzles and run a pin or piece of small wire in the nozzle. If still no fluid comes out, look in that plastic grate and see if the fluid is squirting out somewhere else. If no, follow the line back to the fluid container and see if it is kinked.

If all looks good and still no washer fluid, then the fun begins. You would have to get to the pump and tank and blow out the lines.

OR ..... take it into a shop and tell then your car's windshield washer ain't working and ask them to fix it.


Back-in-the-day, when the windshield got that dirty, we would just take an old T-shirt rag, dip it into the 2 1/2 gal milk pail of water we kept in the trunk, to fill the radiator after the car overheated, and wash off the windshield ..... :popcorn:


humfrz

btan219 06-21-2017 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2932519)

I'd suggest you start with the nozzles and run a pin or piece of small wire in the nozzle. If still no fluid comes out, look in that plastic grate and see if the fluid is squirting out somewhere else. If no, follow the line back to the fluid container and see if it is kinked.


By nozzle do you mean where the water comes out from by the window? If so, then yes I've already ran a pin through those two holes and still nothing.

Also, what is the line everyone talks about? This is my first car and idk anything about cars or their components if you can be more specific please. Once I spot it I'm not really sure what to be checking for. Everyone's just saying to check if it's ok, but idk what looks ok and what doesn't. Please explain like I'm a 5 year old lol

jasonojordan 06-21-2017 09:06 AM

http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_201...10-920-01.html

So if you look at that parts breakdown of the front window cowling you will see there are a series of pop clips. You need to remove them. Under this cowling you will find the lines that connect your washer to the nozzles. Remove the line that runs to nozzles test to see if fluid comes out of the line. If it does you have a issue further up the line. Being fluid is not coming out of either nozzle I doubt the problem is further up the line and is likely in the line that connects to the T that comes from the pump.

btan219 06-21-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2932594)
http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_201...10-920-01.html

So if you look at that parts breakdown of the front window cowling you will see there are a series of pop clips. You need to remove them. Under this cowling you will find the lines that connect your washer to the nozzles. Remove the line that runs to nozzles test to see if fluid comes out of the line. If it does you have a issue further up the line. Being fluid is not coming out of either nozzle I doubt the problem is further up the line and is likely in the line that connects to the T that comes from the pump.

Thanks. This seems more than I'm used to so I'll save checking up on it when I have time later today or this week and I'll post an update or if I have any questions

jasonojordan 06-21-2017 09:57 AM

Is it both sides that are not working?

Tcoat 06-21-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2932610)
Is it both sides that are not working?

That is the question right there!
If both sides are not working you can eliminate nozzles and the separate branch tubes right fro the start since the probability of both plugging at once is low.
If pump is running that can eliminate electrical issues.
Now down to just a handful of possibilities:
The impeller on the pump is not working even though the motor is spinning. Possible but very unlikely.
The outlet from the tank is blocked. Be a bitch to get at to check. Maybe siphon all the fluid out?
The main line is kinked or plugged someplace before it splits to the two nozzles. The most probable cause and easiest to check.

btan219 06-21-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2932610)
Is it both sides that are not working?

yup, no water coming out at all in either hole

btan219 06-21-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2932620)
The main line is kinked or plugged someplace before it splits to the two nozzles. The most probable cause and easiest to check.


Thanks. I still need to remove the cowl just like jasonojordan suggested to check this right? And what exactly is the line everyone is talking about? Should I look out for a tube that connects from the washer fluid tank to the window nozzles or something?

Tcoat 06-21-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by btan219 (Post 2932632)
Thanks. I still need to remove the cowl just like jasonojordan suggested to check this right? And what exactly is the line everyone is talking about? Should I look out for a tube that connects from the washer fluid tank to the window nozzles or something?

I will see if I can dig up a diagram for you. It is pretty tight to try and work on the tank itself but the rest should be too bad.

btan219 06-21-2017 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2932636)
I will see if I can dig up a diagram for you. It is pretty tight to try and work on the tank itself but the rest should be too bad.

Awesome thank you. idk anything about cars but since I got my BRZ a few months ago I've been trying to learn more about it and cars in general by working on things myself (adjusted my clutch the past weekend and it was a huge accomplishment for me lmao). The issue with my wiper fluid will be another learning experience I can add to my knowledge database whether I can fix it or not

jasonojordan 06-21-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by btan219 (Post 2932646)
Awesome thank you. idk anything about cars but since I got my BRZ a few months ago I've been trying to learn more about it and cars in general by working on things myself (adjusted my clutch the past weekend and it was a huge accomplishment for me lmao). The issue with my wiper fluid will be another learning experience I can add to my knowledge database whether I can fix it or not

If its not coming out of either side I would start at the tank and pump and work my way back before removing the cowling. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

BRZyJ 06-21-2017 11:36 AM

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Before you start taking stuff apart, you can separate the line here and see if anything is coming out:

Tcoat 06-21-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BRZyJ (Post 2932656)
Before you start taking stuff apart, you can separate the line here and see if anything is coming out:

Perfect! That will reduce the number of possibilities even more.

btan219 06-21-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZyJ (Post 2932656)
Before you start taking stuff apart, you can separate the line here and see if anything is coming out:

Thanks so much for the diagram! I'll update when I get a chance to work on it.

humfrz 06-21-2017 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by btan219 (Post 2932591)
By nozzle do you mean where the water comes out from by the window? If so, then yes I've already ran a pin through those two holes and still nothing.

Also, what is the line everyone talks about? This is my first car and idk anything about cars or their components if you can be more specific please. Once I spot it I'm not really sure what to be checking for. Everyone's just saying to check if it's ok, but idk what looks ok and what doesn't. Please explain like I'm a 5 year old lol

The line we speak of is a soft, black, plastic tube, about 1/4" in diameter. It runs from the nozzles to the pump/washer container.

It starts (or ends) at the nozzles (hidden under that black plastic screening where the nozzles are, up to the pump (running along the top of the front left wheel well).

I'm getting the feeling that you may need someone to help you or take it to the dealer or a shop and have them fix it.

;)


humfrz

btan219 06-21-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2932734)
The line we speak of is a soft, black, plastic tube, about 1/4" in diameter. It runs from the nozzles to the pump/washer container.

It starts (or ends) at the nozzles (hidden under that black plastic screening where the nozzles are, up to the pump (running along the top of the front left wheel well).

I'm getting the feeling that you may need someone to help you or take it to the dealer or a shop and have them fix it.

;)


humfrz


lol I want to try it out myself first and learn. If not, ya I'll take it to a shop when I have time

Tcoat 06-21-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by btan219 (Post 2932754)
lol I want to try it out myself first and learn. If not, ya I'll take it to a shop when I have time

It is almost the perfect first DIY repair you can do on a car. There is very little real damage you could possibly do.

jasonojordan 06-21-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2932769)
It is almost the perfect first DIY repair you can do on a car. There is very little real damage you could possibly do.

Not to mention the best part...The car still runs so if you can't figure it out right away no big deal keep trying since your not out a car.

btan219 06-21-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2932769)
It is almost the perfect first DIY repair you can do on a car. There is very little real damage you could possibly do.


That's what I was thinking. I rarely ever even use the washer fluid anyways so if it never gets fixed I'd be ok with it and just having a microfiber towel and glass cleaner in my trunk for when I really need to wipe something off. Though I'll probably take it to a shop if I can't do it

Tcoat 06-21-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by btan219 (Post 2932776)
That's what I was thinking. I rarely ever even use the washer fluid anyways so if it never gets fixed I'd be ok with it and just having a microfiber towel and glass cleaner in my trunk for when I really need to wipe something off. Though I'll probably take it to a shop if I can't do it

LOL Ya I just noted your location.
I can go through a gallon a week for 5 months of the year and it is critical that it works!


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1498007228

btan219 06-22-2017 07:09 PM

http://imgur.com/a/kaEgo

I disconnected the two lines but nothing still came outhttp://imgur.com/a/kaEgo

BRZyJ 06-22-2017 07:43 PM

That sucks...if you can hear the pump working and nothing is coming out of that loose end of the hose then it's gotta be a kink or a clog on the pump/reservoir side of things, I would think. Unfortunately there's not really any room to follow that line very far...might have to remove at least the headlight.

Scrappydoo 06-22-2017 08:21 PM

Has the OP checked for water in the fluid reservoir.?

Not being facetious but I'm getting a bit jaded by the dimfuck posts on here.

humfrz 06-22-2017 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2933708)
Has the OP checked for water in the fluid reservoir.?

Not being facetious but I'm getting a bit jaded by the dimfuck posts on here.

May I refer you to post number one, oh jaded one ....... :)


humfrz

x808drifter 06-22-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2933734)
May I refer you to post number one, oh jaded one ....... :)


humfrz

Put the fluid in the right container i hope.
#beyondjaded.

humfrz 06-22-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 2933737)
Put the fluid in the right container i hope.
#beyondjaded.

Well, I should hope that he put the fluid in the right container ...... after all, the cap for it has a nice imprint picture on it.

If he put the windshield washer fluid in the radiator reservoir by mistake, we should recommend that he do no more DIY work on his car.

Hey, you related to @Scrappydoo ...... :eyebulge:


humfrz

PS - is the Pineapple Research Institute still active in Wahiawa .. ?? Back in the day, I visited there, once a year for several years.

Scrappydoo 06-23-2017 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2933743)

PS - is the Pineapple Research Institute still active in Wahiawa .. ?? Back in the day, I visited there, once a year for several years.

What was the diagnosis?

gramicci101 06-23-2017 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2933902)
What was the diagnosis?

He determined that pineapples are not, in fact, apples. Nor are they related to pine trees. The research staff were probably confused on how he kept getting past security and into the building.

jasonojordan 06-23-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by btan219 (Post 2933657)
http://imgur.com/a/kaEgo

I disconnected the two lines but nothing still came outhttp://imgur.com/a/kaEgo

I am not sure if this will work or not but possibly worth a shot. Open the lid to the tank. Disconnect the line at the joint on the fender. Gently blow some air back through the line. Provided that there is not a check somewhere in the system this should back flush any clogs in the pump in the line. Could possibly work. Once again never tried it before myself so do so at your own risk.

btan219 06-23-2017 02:45 PM

Yup I did top off the washer fluid in the correct container (that much I know how to do). Thanks guys, I'll try out other methods that were suggested here!

humfrz 06-23-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2933902)
What was the diagnosis?

They never did figure it out ...... :(

The local hekikai no said that he had a special pineapple dust that would cure me. He was wrong!

They sent me back to the mainland for treatment and restricted my visits to once per year......:sigh:


humfrz

humfrz 06-23-2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2933950)
I am not sure if this will work or not but possibly worth a shot. Open the lid to the tank. Disconnect the line at the joint on the fender. Gently blow some air back through the line. Provided that there is not a check somewhere in the system this should back flush any clogs in the pump in the line. Could possibly work. Once again never tried it before myself so do so at your own risk.

WOW! ....... old school ...... :thumbsup:


humfrz

DandoX 09-16-2019 06:35 PM

Does anyone know the part number for the plastic sprayer nozzle? Also what is the proper way to remove it? I thought I'd ask before I bust out the needle nose and rip that sob out.


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