Will TRD springs RUB on my "17" 86
 

Hello I have a 2017 toyota 86 and bought trd springs. I asked my friend who has a 2014 scion frs that if he knew anybody. He asked around and people said don't do it because it will 'rub' im guess that means against the tire. He was saying just do coilover but I already bought these springs and want to use them since I had trd springs on my 2014 scion tc. If I do go ahead with installing the trd springs will I need to change the struts and coilovers to? I would think not since im not slamming. Would changing the tire size have to be done as well. I would hope not. Thanks for the feedback,

Do you have stock wheels/tires

TRD springs are designed to work with stock wheels, tires and struts.I have them on my '16 with no issues and they aren't low enough to rub.From what it looks like no significant changes to the suspension setup geometry from 2013-2017 and I believe the part number is the same for TRD spring from 2013-2017. Check with the dealer to confirm.

2017 Part number .

http://www.trdusa.com/parts-detail.h...ring%20Springs

2016 Part Number

http://www.trdusa.com/parts-results....ring%20Springs

Technically speaking the springs and struts are the coilovers. As said the TRD springs are designed for the stock set up but hey will still work with many other wheel and tire sizes. If what you are running for wheel size now are not causing issues then there is no reason why the TRD springs are likely to cause any. All will be fine.

I have a 2017 86 as well. I have the stock wheels with the TRD springs with no problems. The only drawback is, you will need to take some steep driveways at an angle so you don't scrape the bottom of the front end.
Ron

Yep. And too fast over railway tracks will make you familiar with the bump stops in a real hurry.

I have TRD springs on my '13, no problems. It's impossible to rub, the bump stop things prevent the springs from compressing enough. I live in SoFlo and our roads are very similar to any northern state that gets snowed and salted. Our tax money goes to more important things, like painting buildings.

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Yes it is stock everything right now.

Thanks for the info really do appreciate it!

How much stiffer than stock are these springs? Because even mild ones like eibach pro kit will kill stock struts..

You're confusing drop with spring rate. Aftermarket springs kill OEM struts because they lower too far and the strut has no travel left, so it bottoms out. But even then it depends on usage. I've been on RCE yellows and OEM struts for 50K miles with no issues. Others have needed new struts within 5K. People have run Eibach sportlines or RS-R superdowns for years with no problems.

I have a '13 with TRD springs, no rub. If that helps

I got the TRD springs because my dealer said it's a Toyota part and was covered by the warranty so if anything goes wrong with the struts later, it's on them.

I am on the stock struts with the Superdowns for 3 years and 100k miles and still no issues. Most of that is good condition highway travel though.

I mean, the springs I've used in the past only drop an inch, maybe inch and a half and they killed my struts in a few months. Not even the sportlines. I don't think I'll ever change springs again without doing struts at the same time.

Could be the twins' struts are stiffer than most so they can handle it though.

I don't know about the 2017's, but for '13-16 the struts were stronger than the springs. So an aftermarket spring with a slightly increased spring rate ended up riding better than OEM.

Going lower than 1-1.5 risks the axles' cv joints. Enough people have broken axles that I will not risk it. I'm happy with my 0.7 drop and slightly stiffer spring.

stop being a *****

The TRD springs are Eibach pros rebranded by Toyota. No reports on here of TRD's "killing" stock struts.

I've never heard of an 86 rubbing because of lowering springs, clearance issues on this car are usually caused by poorly chosen wheels and coilovers set too low.

Riding on bumpstops is another matter though.

I installed TRD springs when we bought our car, no issues.

hi guys, I have a 2017 86 with the new TRD wheels and I was thinking of getting TRD springs, I really expect them not to rub, but my question is, if I'll would need an alignment after installing the springs since it is such a small drop, thanks

Any time you disassemble and reassemble suspension components, it is in your best interest to get it aligned....go ahead and do front camber bolts when you do the springs.

you should slap your friend and have your friend slap these "sources" for telling u that.... sound like a bunch of noobs

I have a 2017 86 special edition with trd springs and no it doesn't rub.

2017 with TRD springs, camber bolts (Brings the top of the tire closer to the strut) and 17x7.5 with an offset of 48, and I can still slide a credit card between the tire and the strut.

You're good to go.

Also, I spent $100 on an alignment after doing the springs and the camber, and all of my toe was within factory spec just as a heads up. Of course I wanted mine zero'd out for autocross, but from my limited experience, and what the alignment tech told me he has seen from other 86s, an alignment might not be needed :iono:

Hey guys I've had a 2017 86 for a few weeks now and I'm thinking about putting some TRD lowering springs on it to make the wheel gap a little smaller and I like the lowered look of the 86.

I daily drive my 86 on 225 45 17's and it feels perfect the way it is. The ride is a bit harsh up in Michigan because the roads are absolute crap but it is still plenty comfortable for me.

The thing is I don't want to compromise the daily drivability and overall feel of the car. I know there has been a lot of discussion on lowering springs already but I haven't found too much on the 2017 version. I know they made some adjustments to the suspension to make it ride smoother stock compared to the 13-16's stock and I've also heard that the TRD lowering springs actually made the ride quality better for the 13-16's. Does anyone have input on how the TRD lowering springs affects the ride quality of the 17 compared to stock? The roads up here are crap enough and I don't really want noticeably worse ride quality.

I've also never scraped the bottom even on some really steep driveways just driving normally and I like having that peace of mind. Do the TRD lowering springs sort of ruin that peace of mind of not scraping or are you noticeably more aware of it?

I had TRD springs and ran 18x8.5 in front and 18x8.75 in the rear and never rubbed unless it was a harsh dip. But my stock struts started failing in only 20k miles. I saw it as an opportunity to upgrade to coils though :D. I now know that, instead of going springs I will change to coils in any car.

anyone running 18x9.5 on the trd springs? my understanding is that it will rub the spring perch?

I’ve had my 17 for over a year now and I can tell you that once I went to the 225/45/17conti dw extreem contact on stock rims I love how the car handles and rides. Imho I don’t think the trd springs are worth it on the 17s. I don’t scratch anything or have any problems with clearance. If you want to change how your car handles then strut braces, under car frame braces, sway bars ect. are the ways to go. I know how bad roads are back east and how many pot holes kills suspensions along with parking lots.

can someone please confirm how much drop are these springs? some say 0.7 some say 1 inch some say 0.5" ??? i heard they are eibach pro-kit rebrand? shouldnt they be 1" lower at least then?

I thought they were always advertised as 1" drop at the dealership.