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alaskanthundercat 06-11-2017 12:10 PM

Lowering Springs - Eibach Pro or Sportline? Or something else?
 
Can someone recommend whether to go with the Eibach Pro lowering springs or their "Sportline" ones? Or if someone recommends something different? Trying to keep it under $300. Daily driven.

BaatLuk 06-12-2017 01:46 AM

Swift sport springs? I have Spec-R in my Evo, worth every penny!

Clipdat 06-12-2017 03:31 AM

W-W-W-Wildcard: RCE Yellows.

Thank me later.

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Originally Posted by alaskanthundercat (Post 2926800)
Can someone recommend whether to go with the Eibach Pro lowering springs or their "Sportline" ones? Or if someone recommends something different? Trying to keep it under $300. Daily driven.


Boomerang 06-12-2017 04:29 AM

RSR super low downs, 1" drop, nice spring rate so still comfortable on the street

Gunman 06-12-2017 12:54 PM

Hotchkis.

DarkSideFRS 06-12-2017 01:26 PM

TRD... warranty will not be voided and it's cheaper than RCE and Eibach

Tcoat 06-12-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomerang (Post 2927182)
RSR super low downs, 1" drop, nice spring rate so still comfortable on the street

You only got 1" overall?




Approximate Drop:
Front -25mm to -30mm (-1.0inch to -1.2inch)
Rear -30mm to -35mm (-1.2inch to -1.4inch)


Mine is more like 1.4 in front and 1.6 in the back.

nikitopo 06-12-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2927349)
Mine is more like 1.4 in front and 1.6 in the back.

Why so much? Are your dampers approaching their end of life?

Tcoat 06-12-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 2927425)
Why so much? Are your dampers approaching their end of life?

Was like that from new. Never really did figure it out. Work fine so not worried.

Boomerang 06-12-2017 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2927349)
You only got 1" overall?




Approximate Drop:
Front -25mm to -30mm (-1.0inch to -1.2inch)
Rear -30mm to -35mm (-1.2inch to -1.4inch)


Mine is more like 1.4 in front and 1.6 in the back.

25mm front, 30mm rear, sure it will settle a bit more over time..

1" was a rough guide for OP

Lunatic 06-12-2017 06:38 PM

Before I got coil overs I used H&R Super Sport springs. I liked the ride height and the handling.

strat61caster 06-12-2017 06:49 PM

Ok so I googled it and they are advertised as Pro-kit lowers 25 mm, Sportline lowers 35 mm, oddly the Pro-kit lists stiffer spring rates which leads me to believe the sportline relies on the bumpstops more heavily which is usually deemed undesirable from a handling and comfort perspective (although the OE setup utilizes the bumpstops frequently so it's not some sort of sin).

I believe that it is speculated that the Prokit is actually the same as the TRD lowering springs (rather that the TRD are rebranded Eibach Prokits), if I had to choose between the two I'd pick those, less drop = more suspension travel = more comfort. 1" is plenty for looks imo, others will likely disagree.

But if you wanna go low then the sportlines are the obvious choice. iirc Eibach designs each line to perform this way, sportlines as a more aggressive drop but ride harsher.

As mentioned by others there's more than a half dozen decent lowering springs for this car.

alaskanthundercat 06-12-2017 07:12 PM

Thanks for the advice guys. Also wondering, with the Sportlines will I need to do more like camber adjustment etc. since it's 1.4" front / 1.6" rear?

Would I also need to do any additional work/buy other parts if I get the Pro's? I've searched and some people with the Pro's said they've needed to do camber adjustments and whatever else, some people say just the springs and nothing else at all. So I'm just confused here.

strat61caster 06-12-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskanthundercat (Post 2927565)
Thanks for the advice guys. Also wondering, with the Sportlines will I need to do more like camber adjustment etc. since it's 1.4" front / 1.6" rear?

Would I also need to do any additional work/buy other parts if I get the Pro's? I've searched and some people with the Pro's said they've needed to do camber adjustments and whatever else, some people say just the springs and nothing else at all. So I'm just confused here.

If you care about your alignment being very good then yes, buy a few parts and have it done.

Given that you're asking the question and don't already know I'd say you'll be fine just putting the springs on, people will say you HAVE to have an alignment after touching ANYTHING suspension related on this car, but as long as you've bolted it together correctly any changes you make will be insignificant.


If you do decide to get it aligned take it to a good shop, expect to spend >$100 as the cheap places are unlikely to improve your alignment and will just put it within factory specs, which in all likelihood means they'll charge you $80 to measure it and not change (meaning improve) anything.

Read these two threads, don't skip parts of it, knuckle down and read them if you care to learn more.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25001
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103609

Veeoh 06-15-2017 12:11 PM

I'm running the H&R super sport springs. Have them on my car for about a year now and I gotta say I don't have any complaints on them. The roads in my area aren't bad which is great, but when I go into DC there's holes everywhere and to me it just feels a bit stiffer than stock. The height of my car is perfect too.

JD001 06-15-2017 12:42 PM

I have Sportlines and when installed the alignment was done too. No camber adjustments though.


The car looks great but the travel is short so I need to be careful going over potholes. Not had issues with speed bumps (touch wood).

Jfheisenberg 06-15-2017 01:49 PM

RCE yellow springs

SwaggFPS 06-15-2017 02:45 PM

RCE Yellows. Just hope you have an impact gun, if you're doing it yourself. If not, and not taking it to a shop, you'll need 2 allen wrenches, socket with hole on the side for one of the allen wrenches, and a small towel (your palms will thank you for it lol). This is to remove the top hats.

I did it myself without an impact, took longer than it should have. Also, if your arms are long enough, you can remove the rear strut by yourself.

Darkrune 06-16-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SwaggFPS (Post 2929232)
RCE Yellows. Just hope you have an impact gun, if you're doing it yourself. If not, and not taking it to a shop, you'll need 2 allen wrenches, socket with hole on the side for one of the allen wrenches, and a small towel (your palms will thank you for it lol). This is to remove the top hats.

I did it myself without an impact, took longer than it should have. Also, if your arms are long enough, you can remove the rear strut by yourself.

Even with an impact gun, you still have to do all this, ask me how I know.

perryair 06-16-2017 10:13 PM

for whatever its worth, i have the prokits on my car and stock everything else and the rear camber is fairly noticeable (and unfixable without new lca's). if i went to the drop of the sportlines, i would likely feel obligated to get lca's to fix that and would therefore spend at least three or four hundred extra dollars doing so.

You get about a solid inch of drop, and it makes it look natural. if you LOVE the super slammed look you'll need to go more but the prokits ride about as harsh as you'd want out of a street car with stock dampers as it is.

alaskanthundercat 06-18-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by perryair (Post 2930129)
for whatever its worth, i have the prokits on my car and stock everything else and the rear camber is fairly noticeable (and unfixable without new lca's). if i went to the drop of the sportlines, i would likely feel obligated to get lca's to fix that and would therefore spend at least three or four hundred extra dollars doing so.

You get about a solid inch of drop, and it makes it look natural. if you LOVE the super slammed look you'll need to go more but the prokits ride about as harsh as you'd want out of a street car with stock dampers as it is.

Thanks, this is what I was worried about - the rear camber. Just gonna keep her at stock height for now until I can afford everything to do it right.

Darkrune 06-18-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskanthundercat (Post 2930814)
Thanks, this is what I was worried about - the rear camber. Just gonna keep her at stock height for now until I can afford everything to do it right.

He said an inch is fine. I agree.

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Assassin4Hire13 06-19-2017 11:38 AM

I put the prokits on my 14 BRZ and really liked how they sat. They settled somewhere between 3/4" and 1" on stock dampers. There's a small bit of rear camber (I don't have any camber adjustment). I also never got the car aligned afterwards (I know I should've buy yolo I guess). Ride is pretty good. Bit harsher than stock but feel and turn in is amazing.

Only problem is that towards the end of your damper's life the ride gets really bouncy.

-Willis-86touge 06-23-2017 08:51 PM

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Got sportlines on mine. Rides just fine until you hit a harsh road the it stiffens up. But not unmanageable. Just feels like a race car. O and I decided to put bigger tires on. I run a 245/40 -18 on a 18x8.5 +35et and no rubbing after I got an alignment. Right now I use just camber bolts and got 1.5 neg camber up front nothing done to the back but showed 2.3 neg in rear hope this helps


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