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Alabang BRZ 05-31-2017 05:55 AM

Kenwood DDX917WS head unit -- any installed?
 
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New Kenwood DDX917WS Release for Toyota & Subaru

The Kenwood DDX917WS release has just been announced and is set to arrive on the Australia shores on 1 March 2017.


The new Kenwood DDX917WS is based on the previous model the DDX916WS but will now included additional features:
  • Built in Air Mirroring via WiFi
  • ADAS DVR Camera control on screen (dash camera control) *Requires Kenwood DRV-N520 sold seperately.
  • Super Hi-Res Audio file playback
Built In “Air Mirroring 2 ” with Advanced Two Way Android Link.


With the new Kenwood DDX917WS Release comes Wi-Fi Mirroring is now built in to our 2017 CP/AA Range (excluding DMX7017BTS)
Connect your smartphone via Wi-Fi and mirror your Android or iPhone screen without fuss onto our 7″ Capacitive Screen!
Kenwood has also added advanced Two Way Smartphone Link to easily control your Android Phone via the head unit. This new technology allows seamless Android control from your head unit without any additional third party apps or Bluetooth setup requirements.
Just simply activate your Android quick connect function and you’re ready to go!
Off Road/4WD mapping,Videos,Apps and even Android Auto Wirelessly via Air Mirroring!
Yes, it’s all possible within the new 2017 CP/AA AV Range.

ADAS DVR Control


An industry first, Kenwood can now integrate an ADAS DVR with the AV Receiver. Full DVR control, screen viewing, setup etc. can all be operated via the Head Unit. The DRV-N520 is a fully Advanced Driving Assistance System (ADAS) DVR that can detect and alert collisions, Lane Departure as well as Departure Delays.



Alerts are communicated on screen and through audio.


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HBKeazy! 06-11-2017 11:15 PM

Kenwood DDX917WS head unit -- any installed?
 
I just ordered this on Fasmoto.com for $650! I love how there made for Toyota's. I bought an antenna adapter, camera harness to keep the oem camera and a cable to keep the oem USB port. You don't need a steering wheel control module! It's built in! And connects directly to the cars original port! And it fits perfectly! Im so pumped up can't wait till it gets here.


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imnotsureaboutbrz 06-11-2017 11:20 PM

I thought this was a Aus only unit... I didn't see it on Kenwoods webpage after I saw this video...

https://youtu.be/qpdP1GKnmlE

HBKeazy! 06-11-2017 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by imnotsureaboutbrz (Post 2927108)
I thought this was a Aus only unit... I didn't see it on Kenwoods webpage after I saw this video...

https://youtu.be/qpdP1GKnmlE



Australia and some parts of Asia


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ncted 06-16-2017 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBKeazy! (Post 2927107)
I just ordered this on Fasmoto.com for $650! I love how there made for Toyota's. I bought an antenna adapter, camera harness to keep the oem camera and a cable to keep the oem USB port. You don't need a steering wheel control module! It's built in! And connects directly to the cars original port! And it fits perfectly! Im so pumped up can't wait till it gets here.


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Sounds great and exactly what I want for my '17 BRZ. My question is, considering this is a APAC-market unit, what doesn't work and what is missing? e.g. I assume there is no HD Radio or SiriusXM, which is fine for me, but is there anything else you would expect to have on a NA-market stereo that isn't there?

Thanks,
Ted

willimusk 06-16-2017 01:49 PM

DVDs won't play, as they are coded by region. Beyond that, and what you mention, all should work here, as far as I know. I've been considering this unit since it was announced, and finally ordered one myself.

ncted 06-16-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by willimusk (Post 2929882)
DVDs won't play, as they are coded by region. Beyond that, and what you mention, all should work here, as far as I know. I've been considering this unit since it was announced, and finally ordered one myself.

OK, yeah, that makes sense. Gotta say I am not that likely to want to sit in my BRZ and watch a DVD, so not gonna sweat that one.

HBKeazy! 06-16-2017 02:25 PM

Like he said no dvd, had radio or Sirius. It does have have airplay mirroring. I had to buy an antenna adapter, camera retention with 12v to 6v for the oem camera and USB retention everything else plugged right in. Now I'm trying to bypass the oem amp so I can full control of all the speakers. I'm still amazed about the built in steering wheel control. I programmed one of my buttons to command Siri.


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dezmoondo 06-29-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ncted (Post 2929898)
OK, yeah, that makes sense. Gotta say I am not that likely to want to sit in my BRZ and watch a DVD, so not gonna sweat that one.

As long as Netflix plays.

Jakinit 07-13-2017 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HBKeazy! (Post 2929909)
Like he said no dvd, had radio or Sirius. It does have have airplay mirroring. I had to buy an antenna adapter, camera retention with 12v to 6v for the oem camera and USB retention everything else plugged right in. Now I'm trying to bypass the oem amp so I can full control of all the speakers. I'm still amazed about the built in steering wheel control. I programmed one of my buttons to command Siri.


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What camera retention and USB retention did you get? I did a quick install today to see where I'm at and my camera doesn't work. Current thoughts noted below:

1. Steering wheel controls: I went into the setup and it let me set up vol up/down and skip/back. It doesn't seem to register the play, answer or hangup buttons. Did you run into this?

2. Backup camera not currently working. Didn't test it with the engine off, but you mention the steering wheel controls are also the camera?

3. Mic: are you using the included mic? I might try and splice the stock one unless you found an adapter.

4. Need both antenna and USB adapter. Gonna order that now.

5. I need to find where to connect the reverse light. I just grounded the parking break to bypass that but I need to research this one. I only have it a couple hours today.

HBKeazy! 07-13-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakinit (Post 2945075)
What camera retention and USB retention did you get? I did a quick install today to see where I'm at and my camera doesn't work. Current thoughts noted below:



1. Steering wheel controls: I went into the setup and it let me set up vol up/down and skip/back. It doesn't seem to register the play, answer or hangup buttons. Did you run into this?



2. Backup camera not currently working. Didn't test it with the engine off, but you mention the steering wheel controls are also the camera?



3. Mic: are you using the included mic? I might try and splice the stock one unless you found an adapter.



4. Need both antenna and USB adapter. Gonna order that now.



5. I need to find where to connect the reverse light. I just grounded the parking break to bypass that but I need to research this one. I only have it a couple hours today.



Yes you program the steering wheel controls I didn't program anything other then what the original controls did. Except the button "mode" I use it to bring out Siri. It should give you options to change that tho but I'm not sure if answer/hang up were an option.

The back up camera needs a 12v to 6v if you have the oem camera. You need this part Axxess AX-TOYCAM3 a video out comes from there and a reverse signal should be in pin 2 from that harness. What I did is I tapped into the harness where pin 2 is so I wouldn't have to mess with the oem wires. All the instructions are included. Ax-cam6v is what you need for the voltage drop to 6v.

I did use the oem mic since I hear anything is better than the oem and from my experience is a little better when I make phone calls.

Yes metra 40lx11 is the antenna adapter and pac USB-ty1 I know metra makes one just look to see if they match.

If you buy the ax-toycam3 you can tap in to a reverse signal. Dont forget the 6v step down converter or it will burn out you oem camera.


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willimusk 07-13-2017 01:46 PM

I bought this unit through Carbon Car Systems in Australia. I believe I was the first person in the States to get one from them. I installed it yesterday, along with the one-piece Canadian dash; it took all of an an hour, and I was being overly cautious.

Carbon bundles with a proprietary wiring harness for the 2017 BRZ that makes it all plug and play. Steering functions and camera work perfectly. The sound is a big upgrade over the stock unit, and having Carplay is a big plus.

Wireless air mirroring is available for both Apple and Android, though it is only one way on the iPhone, meaning it displays but you cannot control any functions from the HU screen. Android is two way. I won't find this feature very useful because it seriously degrades the excellent sound available via wired Carplay. But if I want to use Google Maps or Waze or other non-CarPlay apps, it will be handy.

I have to say, this HU is excellent, IMO, and I'm a hardcore home audio guy. It offers a lot of options to fine-tune the sound, including a number of preset EQ curves and effects. And it looks fantastic in the one-piece dash.

I also purchased the OEM Audio + Reference 450Q, but I plan to spend time with this Kenwood for a while before I install it. At the kind suggestion of Daniel at O+, I actually had Carbon ship directly to O+ so they could install the HU in their test BRZ and tune their DSP to it. The settings have been added to their database, so others can get theirs tuned easily now.

TheRoops 07-13-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by willimusk (Post 2945288)
I bought this unit through Carbon Car Systems in Australia. I believe I was the first person in the States to get one from them. I installed it yesterday, along with the one-piece Canadian dash; it took all of an an hour, and I was being overly cautious.

Carbon bundles with a proprietary wiring harness for the 2017 BRZ that makes it all plug and play. Steering functions and camera work perfectly. The sound is a big upgrade over the stock unit, and having Carplay is a big plus.

Wireless air mirroring is available for both Apple and Android, though it is only one way on the iPhone, meaning it displays but you cannot control any functions from the HU screen. Android is two way. I won't find this feature very useful because it seriously degrades the excellent sound available via wired Carplay. But if I want to use Google Maps or Waze or other non-CarPlay apps, it will be handy.

I have to say, this HU is excellent, IMO, and I'm a hardcore home audio guy. It offers a lot of options to fine-tune the sound, including a number of preset EQ curves and effects. And it looks fantastic in the one-piece dash.

I also purchased the OEM Audio + Reference 450Q, but I plan to spend time with this Kenwood for a while before I install it. At the kind suggestion of Daniel at O+, I actually had Carbon ship directly to O+ so they could install the HU in their test BRZ and tune their DSP to it. The settings have been added to their database, so others can get theirs tuned easily now.

Good move having the DSP calibrated. It sounds amazing. I actually had them do it in person since I work like 2 miles away. They're great guys.

Jakinit 07-13-2017 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willimusk (Post 2945288)
I bought this unit through Carbon Car Systems in Australia. I believe I was the first person in the States to get one from them. I installed it yesterday, along with the one-piece Canadian dash; it took all of an an hour, and I was being overly cautious.

Carbon bundles with a proprietary wiring harness for the 2017 BRZ that makes it all plug and play. Steering functions and camera work perfectly. The sound is a big upgrade over the stock unit, and having Carplay is a big plus.

Wireless air mirroring is available for both Apple and Android, though it is only one way on the iPhone, meaning it displays but you cannot control any functions from the HU screen. Android is two way. I won't find this feature very useful because it seriously degrades the excellent sound available via wired Carplay. But if I want to use Google Maps or Waze or other non-CarPlay apps, it will be handy.

I have to say, this HU is excellent, IMO, and I'm a hardcore home audio guy. It offers a lot of options to fine-tune the sound, including a number of preset EQ curves and effects. And it looks fantastic in the one-piece dash.

I also purchased the OEM Audio + Reference 450Q, but I plan to spend time with this Kenwood for a while before I install it. At the kind suggestion of Daniel at O+, I actually had Carbon ship directly to O+ so they could install the HU in their test BRZ and tune their DSP to it. The settings have been added to their database, so others can get theirs tuned easily now.

I didn't even know carbon systems would ship to the US...that would have made my whole life easier. I hope to get mine fully wired and installed this weekend.

willimusk 07-13-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakinit (Post 2945325)
I didn't even know carbon systems would ship to the US...that would have made my whole life easier. I hope to get mine fully wired and installed this weekend.

Yeah, I had to do some cajoling. :)

HBKeazy! 07-13-2017 03:21 PM

I bought mine through fasmoto.com got it in 3 days.It's nice that carbon offers that bundle so you can plug and play but it's nothing you can't make yourself if you do the research and probably for half the price too.


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willimusk 07-13-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HBKeazy! (Post 2945334)
I bought mine through fasmoto.com got it in 3 days.It's nice that carbon offers that bundle so you can plug and play but it's nothing you can't make yourself if you do the research and probably for half the price too.

Sure, you can do all this yourself. I just didn't want the hassle and headaches of trying source the right cables and pieces to make the HU work. I paid like $925 USD, shipped, so around $275 more than fastmoto. That premium was easily worth it to me. Plus, I appreciate that Carbon takes the time to make videos for installation, etc., and were very responsive to myriad email questions. I like supporting good retailers--even if they're on another continent.

HBKeazy! 07-13-2017 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willimusk (Post 2945351)
Sure, you can do all this yourself. I just didn't want the hassle and headaches of trying source the right cables and pieces to make the HU work. I paid like $925 USD, shipped, so around $275 more than fastmoto. That premium was easily worth it to me. Plus, I appreciate that Carbon takes the time to make videos for installation, etc., and were very responsive to myriad email questions. I like supporting good retailers--even if they're on another continent.



The headunit from fasmoto with shipping by DHL is $650 USD it's not really a headache if you do the research. It's about $50 worth of cables and the head unit $650. So $700 OTD, the bundle they sell is basically the exact same cables you would have to order. They sell just soldered couple pieces made it look better and sell it for twice, But if that makes you happy that's cool.


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driggity 07-13-2017 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBKeazy! (Post 2945365)
The headunit from fasmoto with shipping by DHL is $650 USD it's not really a headache if you do the research. It's about $50 worth of cables and the head unit $650. So $700 OTD, the bundle they sell is basically the exact same cables you would have to order. They sell just soldered couple pieces made it look better and sell it for twice, But if that makes you happy that's cool.


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Did you have to get a wiring harness adaptor for power and speakers or just the USB retention, antenna adaptor, and camera adaptor (which I wouldn't need)? Thanks.

Jakinit 07-13-2017 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driggity (Post 2945393)
Did you have to get a wiring harness adaptor for power and speakers or just the USB retention, antenna adaptor, and camera adaptor (which I wouldn't need)? Thanks.

Power and speakers came with the unit even steering wheel controls (not sure if it works fully with the BRZ yet as I'm having issues with it not recognizing all my controls). You just need USB, antenna, and camera.

HBKeazy! 07-13-2017 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driggity (Post 2945393)
Did you have to get a wiring harness adaptor for power and speakers or just the USB retention, antenna adaptor, and camera adaptor (which I wouldn't need)? Thanks.



Yea what jakinit said, if you have the oem camera you need the camera adapter ax-(toycam3) with the 12v to 6v (ax-cam6v) so you won't burn out the camera and a reverse signal can be retrieved from that harness as well. Then you need the PAC USB retention cable (USB-TY1) and the antenna adapter from metra (40-LX11) it's so cool that this headunit has two high powered USB ports I have the other in my glove compartment that charges my headphones or someone else's phone, pretty useful.


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Jakinit 07-13-2017 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBKeazy! (Post 2945428)
Yea what jakinit said, if you have the oem camera you need the camera adapter ax-(toycam3) with the 12v to 6v (ax-cam6v) so you won't burn out the camera and a reverse signal can be retrieved from that harness as well. Then you need the PAC USB retention cable (USB-TY1) and the antenna adapter from metra (40-LX11) it's so cool that this headunit has two high powered USB ports I have the other in my glove compartment that charges my headphones or someone else's phone, pretty useful.


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I'm gonna drill a hole in my center console and route the second USB port there. That way I an use Android auto all the time without a cable hanging by my shifter.

Krion 07-14-2017 09:16 AM

Has anyone had any issues with their speakers since installation?

I installed my DDX917WS yesterday and the bass in my car sounds awful now. Even with the bass turned all the way up in the EQ it sounds non-existent. Way worse than stock.

HBKeazy! 07-14-2017 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krion (Post 2945712)
Has anyone had any issues with their speakers since installation?

I installed my DDX917WS yesterday and the bass in my car sounds awful now. Even with the bass turned all the way up in the EQ it sounds non-existent. Way worse than stock.



I bypassed the oem amp for that reason


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Krion 07-14-2017 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBKeazy! (Post 2945736)
I bypassed the oem amp for that reason


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How exactly is that possible? Does the kenwood unit have a built in amp? or did you add an after market amp?

driggity 07-14-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakinit (Post 2945401)
Power and speakers came with the unit even steering wheel controls (not sure if it works fully with the BRZ yet as I'm having issues with it not recognizing all my controls). You just need USB, antenna, and camera.



Thanks for the info. Where did you get your unit from?

willimusk 07-14-2017 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krion (Post 2945712)
Has anyone had any issues with their speakers since installation?

I installed my DDX917WS yesterday and the bass in my car sounds awful now. Even with the bass turned all the way up in the EQ it sounds non-existent. Way worse than stock.

I have no issues with bass.

Go to Audio > Sound Effects > Bass Boost

Krion 07-14-2017 12:20 PM

I've messed with all the settings already. Maybe it has something to do with the wiring. I guess I'll just take it to a professional.

willimusk 07-14-2017 12:42 PM

That's a drag. Do any of the Bass Boost settings make any audible difference?

Krion 07-14-2017 01:31 PM

Not really. It sounds like all the bass lines and kick drums are coming through the mid speakers. It sounds distorted and really dull. I have no idea what could be causing this. I mean the car never had good bass before but it was definitely noticeable and would at least vibrate the door panels with the volume turned up.

willimusk 07-14-2017 01:49 PM

Seems your HU is not communicating bass properly. Changes in the bass boost options are pretty dramatic for me.

Krion 07-14-2017 02:17 PM

I've touched every single setting I could find on the damn thing with no results. I don't know if it could possibly be defective or possibly wired wrong.

willimusk 07-14-2017 02:22 PM

I doubt it is defective. I'd guess wiring.

Krion 07-14-2017 05:15 PM

I think it may be the crossover settings. If it's not too much trouble, could you post a picture of what yours are set to?

HBKeazy! 07-14-2017 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krion (Post 2945874)
I've touched every single setting I could find on the damn thing with no results. I don't know if it could possibly be defective or possibly wired wrong.



Are they the stock speakers?


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Krion 07-14-2017 05:34 PM

They are. I realize the stock speakers have awful bass but I was able to get a decent amount with the stock head unit. I can't get anywhere close to what it was now that I have the Kenwood installed. I'm almost positive that the issue is the Xover settings though.

HBKeazy! 07-14-2017 05:51 PM

Kenwood DDX917WS head unit -- any installed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Krion (Post 2945988)
They are. I realize the stock speakers have awful bass but I was able to get a decent amount with the stock head unit. I can't get anywhere close to what it was now that I have the Kenwood installed. I'm almost positive that the issue is the Xover settings though.



I listened to my speakers before I bypassed the amp and it was a difference. It did sound loud and not as clean at first when it was connected to the oem amp.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42239

That's where I got the info and idea on how to bypass the amp. So instead of connected it to an external amp I just connected the corresponding wires together, and I had to buy the adapter to. Just read the post entirely so you can understand what I'm saying. It would make sense that the 6.5 speaker producing the lower notes would be effected since it's amplifying and amplified signal.

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Krion 07-14-2017 06:26 PM

Well I found the issue. My door speakers just aren't getting any signal. There's no sound coming from them at all haha. I was just listening to tweeters and the speakers in the back.

Time to take it to the shop.

HBKeazy! 07-14-2017 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krion (Post 2946010)
Well I found the issue. My door speakers just aren't getting any signal. There's no sound coming from them at all haha. I was just listening to tweeters and the speakers in the back.

Time to take it to the shop.



Check your fuses, you probably blew the oem amp fuse.


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willimusk 07-15-2017 01:28 PM

I'm embarrassed to say, my door speakers aren't working, either! After adjusting the bass boost and other effects, I was getting decent enough bass not to notice at first. Checked the fuse and it looks fine. Seems the HU is just not communicating with the amp that powers the door speakers. I have an email in to Carbon. They installed one of these in a 2017 BRZ, so they should have some insight.


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