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unhappymeal 05-05-2017 11:27 AM

First time hearing the crickets on a 2017 BRZ
 
To date I have only filled the car up with Shell 91, but last weekend I was out in the country and had to fill up at a Pioneer station. Sure enough, on the way into work this morning I heard a mild chirping sound. At first I had no idea what it was and thought the windshield wipers were making the noise. I briefly turned off the wipers and the chirping continued. Then I remembered "crickets!".

The sound persisted until I hit the on-ramp and went WOT through 2nd and 3rd. Afterwards, it was gone. :iono:

Anyone else with a 2017 that has experienced crickets?

funwheeldrive 05-05-2017 11:30 AM

I've seen other people report them in other MY17 threads. They have a revised pump that eliminates crickets, but I don't think there is a TSB for the MY17 yet.

DaBoBo21 05-05-2017 11:40 AM

The 2017's come with the revised HPFP. Even those who have gotten their's replaced via the TSB are eventually getting the crickets back. The real test will be once the summer temps set-in.

Tcoat 05-05-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by unhappymeal (Post 2904871)
To date I have only filled the car up with Shell 91, but last weekend I was out in the country and had to fill up at a Pioneer station. Sure enough, on the way into work this morning I heard a mild chirping sound. At first I had no idea what it was and thought the windshield wipers were making the noise. I briefly turned off the wipers and the chirping continued. Then I remembered "crickets!".

The sound persisted until I hit the on-ramp and went WOT through 2nd and 3rd. Afterwards, it was gone. :iono:

Anyone else with a 2017 that has experienced crickets?

You sure it was crickets not a damp belt or something?
I have never had them unless it was very warm out and even then only at idle. As soon as I started to move they went away. Not a 17 though so maybe they just changed instead of getting rid of them.

tomm.brz 05-05-2017 01:09 PM

i have a my17, and i hear crickets and makes me worried.
I dont hear them at idle, but only in 2nd e 3rd gear under 3k rpm..
This occurs specially when slowing down when still on gear but not pressing the gas pedal
while the car, and the engine, slow down, crickets appear
and also when i'm in 2nd gear, low rpm (say 1900-2000) and i accelerate.. lots of crickets.

Should i be worried?

DaBoBo21 05-05-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tomm.brz (Post 2904958)
i have a my17, and i hear crickets and makes me worried.
I dont hear them at idle, but only in 2nd e 3rd gear under 3k rpm..
This occurs specially when slowing down when still on gear but not pressing the gas pedal
while the car, and the engine, slow down, crickets appear
and also when i'm in 2nd gear, low rpm (say 1900-2000) and i accelerate.. lots of crickets.

Should i be worried?

Are you sure it's crickets and not clutch chatter? MTs have clutch chatter coasting in lower RPMs. Nothing to be worried about.

Somerandom18 05-05-2017 01:16 PM

My crickets come and go. Normally happen after highway cruising.

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Teseo 05-05-2017 01:17 PM

Car is totalled

WRBrzRX 05-05-2017 01:56 PM

early MY17s have the old pump

Tcoat 05-05-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WRBrzRX (Post 2905005)
early MY17s have the old pump

Nobody has proven that. In fact there is more evidence that late 16s have the new pump.

Tcoat 05-05-2017 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomm.brz (Post 2904958)
i have a my17, and i hear crickets and makes me worried.
I dont hear them at idle, but only in 2nd e 3rd gear under 3k rpm..
This occurs specially when slowing down when still on gear but not pressing the gas pedal
while the car, and the engine, slow down, crickets appear
and also when i'm in 2nd gear, low rpm (say 1900-2000) and i accelerate.. lots of crickets.

Should i be worried?

No even if they are they are not hurting anything. Doubt it is crickets though.

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Originally Posted by DaBoBo21 (Post 2904964)
Are you sure it's crickets and not clutch chatter? MTs have clutch chatter coasting in lower RPMs. Nothing to be worried about.

This is more likely.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Somerandom18 (Post 2904965)
My crickets come and go. Normally happen after highway cruising.

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I have to wonder if some that think they have crickets are hearing something else. Historically the crickets went away immediately when the car was in gear or moving.

funwheeldrive 05-05-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBoBo21 (Post 2904879)
Even those who have gotten their's replaced via the TSB are eventually getting the crickets back. The real test will be once the summer temps set-in.



I haven't seen one case of the crickets coming back with the newest TSB replacement pumps. Some people have had it installed for over 6 months now.

unhappymeal 05-05-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2904889)
You sure it was crickets not a damp belt or something?
I have never had them unless it was very warm out and even then only at idle. As soon as I started to move they went away. Not a 17 though so maybe they just changed instead of getting rid of them.

Fair point. I'll have to take a look inside the garage tomorrow morning when the car has dried off.

Dialkyl 05-05-2017 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2905038)
I haven't seen one case of the crickets coming back with the newest TSB replacement pumps. Some people have had it installed for over 6 months now.

I've had my pump for over a month and am in Texas where its been hot out already, no crickets at all.

And yeah, I was under the impression that crickets only happened when the car was up to operating temperature and at idle, people saying they've having them in 2nd or 3rd gear makes me wonder if they're hearing the DI ticking and thinking its crickets?

Tcoat 05-05-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dialkyl (Post 2905051)
I've had my pump for over a month and am in Texas where its been hot out already, no crickets at all.

And yeah, I was under the impression that crickets only happened when the car was up to operating temperature and at idle, people saying they've having them in 2nd or 3rd gear makes me wonder if they're hearing the DI ticking and thinking its crickets?

That is my suspicion. The change over can be dramatic under the right conditions.

tacos 05-05-2017 03:01 PM

a couple weeks ago i did two WOT pulls getting on the highway, then immediately went home and as i idled in my garage i heard the crickets

havent done any wot since though and havent heard crickets, so i assume they are related

Tcoat 05-05-2017 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tacos (Post 2905056)
a couple weeks ago i did two WOT pulls getting on the highway, then immediately went home and as i idled in my garage i heard the crickets

havent done any wot since though and havent heard crickets, so i assume they are related

Would be a first if they were. Could just be that you heated the bay up a bit more than normal I suppose.


Or like I said they have just changed what causes them with the new pump.

DaBoBo21 05-05-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2905010)
Nobody has proven that. In fact there is more evidence that late 16s have the new pump.

I was told by my dealership that my 16 has the updated pump. She still chirps from time to time.

Tcoat 05-05-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBoBo21 (Post 2905125)
I was told by my dealership that my 16 has the updated pump.

Yep. Some do and some don't. It was listed as a rolling change starting in 2016 but there was never really a date of XX given for when it started.

Gunman 05-05-2017 06:50 PM

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Tcoat 05-05-2017 08:22 PM

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Embrace them :)

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gravitylover 05-05-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2904889)
You sure it was crickets not a damp belt or something?
I have never had them unless it was very warm out and even then only at idle. As soon as I started to move they went away. Not a 17 though so maybe they just changed instead of getting rid of them.


Quote:

Originally Posted by tomm.brz (Post 2904958)
i have a my17, and i hear crickets and makes me worried.
I dont hear them at idle, but only in 2nd e 3rd gear under 3k rpm..
This occurs specially when slowing down when still on gear but not pressing the gas pedal
while the car, and the engine, slow down, crickets appear
and also when i'm in 2nd gear, low rpm (say 1900-2000) and i accelerate.. lots of crickets.

Should i be worried?

Like Tcoat said it's not crickets it's a wet belt. Crickets only appear at idle. The most reasonable explanation I remember being proposed is the seals in the HPFP need more lubrication than ethanol rich fuels provide. The new pump has different seals so is more tolerant of the garbage we use for fuel here in the US.

Tcoat 05-05-2017 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 2905280)
Like Tcoat said it's not crickets it's a wet belt. Crickets only appear at idle. The most reasonable explanation I remember being proposed is the seals in the HPFP need more lubrication than ethanol rich fuels provide. The new pump has different seals so is more tolerant of the garbage we use for fuel here in the US.

More than just seals. It also has a longer stroke and a porting size change but those probably had nothing to do with the noise.

spike021 05-05-2017 10:33 PM

*knock on wood*

I got over 1000 miles today (yay broke break-in period) and no crickets on my '17 yet, even in some hot 90+ degree weather the other day. Been fueling up with 91 consistently.

Impureclient 05-05-2017 10:36 PM

Still none in my 15' that was done maybe a couple months ago now and it has been well into the 90s in FL now.
I never heard them while driving either. I can't even see how that is possible. I only ever noticed them while sitting still.

If they come back, then I'll give up and leave it be. Until the next TSB comes out for it that is...

Oxyg3n 05-06-2017 01:47 AM

I have a 17 and my crickets are live and well.

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tomm.brz 05-06-2017 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gravitylover (Post 2905280)
Like Tcoat said it's not crickets it's a wet belt. Crickets only appear at idle. The most reasonable explanation I remember being proposed is the seals in the HPFP need more lubrication than ethanol rich fuels provide. The new pump has different seals so is more tolerant of the garbage we use for fuel here in the US.

well, cool for me
Is it normal to get a wet belt? something to get worried about?
at idle i hear nothing so lucky me, no crickets

gravitylover 05-06-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2905289)
More than just seals. It also has a longer stroke and a porting size change but those probably had nothing to do with the noise.

Actually the port size could have something to do with it as well. Changing or reducing the pressure may be putting less stress on things and a longer stroke could allow it to run a hair cooler. I don't know but it sounded good...

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Originally Posted by tomm.brz (Post 2905502)
well, cool for me
Is it normal to get a wet belt? something to get worried about?
at idle i hear nothing so lucky me, no crickets

It would be with any car. Normal? Yeah :bonk:

Tcoat 05-06-2017 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomm.brz (Post 2905502)
well, cool for me
Is it normal to get a wet belt? something to get worried about?
at idle i hear nothing so lucky me, no crickets

The pans under these cars usually do a pretty good job of keeping most of the water out but there is still plenty that can get in the engine bay. The OP isn't too far from me and we have had almost constant rain for almost two weeks now. This greatly increases the chance of a damp belt.

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mrg666 05-15-2017 08:24 PM

I have not heard any crickets since I switched to non-ethanol gas one year ago.

thomasmryan 05-15-2017 09:44 PM

It's 30 miles round trip to get non-ethanol fuel at the Co-op and I think the car performs better. I actually got 360 miles out of that tank instead of the usual 320.

vintagemxer 05-19-2017 08:21 PM

Crickets
 
Got an early '16. Went to dealer to verify TSB. They used VIN to look up build, car came w/ newer pump...Did a visual w/ the photo's on the forum showing the top of the new pump...verified...@ operating temp...idling only...got crickets...:lol:

TommyW 05-19-2017 09:09 PM

I was on the I5 in San Juan today in heavy traffic and there was a '15 or later next to me. Black and dirty as F and crickets chirping loudly. If I was thinking about buying an 86 and saw that whole package I'd definitely re consider. Dude at least wash your damn car.....

Koa 05-19-2017 09:16 PM

i hate you fools :lol:

Tcoat 05-19-2017 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2913395)
i hate you fools :lol:

Jerk


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