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BRZSteve 04-29-2017 08:00 PM

Tein Flex Z Help
 
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Hey everyone, I recently installed my Tein Flex Z coilovers and noticed the rears were still pretty high up even when fully maxed out. I'm pretty sure these were supposed to drop 3 inches in the back and I don't think I'm near that. There is still a lot of thread left, but it wont lower anymore. I took the bottom cups out and threaded them as much as they went just to be sure. I've been searching for an answer but couldn't find anything. Has anyone else had this problem? :thanks:

FR-Sky 04-30-2017 04:20 AM

I don't have this problem. My setup before is drop 1.3 front and 1.3 rear, and i barely put one finger between my wheel gap. Even I use Tein recommended setup now is still smaller gap than yours. (0.8 front and 0.7 rear).

BRZSteve 04-30-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2901522)
I don't have this problem. My setup before is drop 1.3 front and 1.3 rear, and i barely put one finger between my wheel gap. Even I use Tein recommended setup now is still smaller gap than yours. (0.8 front and 0.7 rear).

That's weird. What's your wheel/tire setup?

Mackizzle86 04-30-2017 12:53 PM

Are you trying to lower it? Your perches are set higher up.

BRZSteve 04-30-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mackizzle86 (Post 2901597)
Are you trying to lower it? Your perches are set higher up.

Yes I'm trying to lower it a lot more. I never touched the spring perches I just left it factory spec. Wouldn't altering the perches increase/decrease preload?

Trust86 04-30-2017 01:10 PM

If the threads are maxed out, next thing would be rear LCAs. The slight tire stretch makes the gap more noticeable as well.

BRZSteve 04-30-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trust86 (Post 2901601)
If the threads are maxed out, next thing would be rear LCAs. The slight tire stretch makes the gap more noticeable as well.

So it's normal to be this high even when maxed out? I was under the impression that maxed out would be when all the perches were touching, since I have so much thread left.

FR-Sky 04-30-2017 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZSteve (Post 2901573)
That's weird. What's your wheel/tire setup?

Its a 255/40/17 with -3 camber, so it wouldn't matter much.
I can put 1 finger front, and about 2 fingers rear.

BRZSteve 04-30-2017 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2901666)
Its a 255/40/17 with -3 camber, so it wouldn't matter much.
I can put 1 finger front, and about 2 fingers rear.

Yeah my rears are about a 2 finger as well. Just wondering, how much lower are you able to go?

FR-Sky 04-30-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZSteve (Post 2901678)
Yeah my rears are about a 2 finger as well. Just wondering, how much lower are you able to go?

I think I can still drop 1 inches more, but I didn't do that due to 255, it will rub.

Kaotic Lazagna 05-01-2017 01:36 AM

Maxed out the front (removed the locking rings), and maxed out the rear plus using some pre-load adjustment.

https://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.n...33&oe=597700CB

https://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.n...e1&oe=597BB7E5

https://scontent.fsnc1-5.fna.fbcdn.n...6c&oe=59BDEFF6

sIowbrz 05-01-2017 03:43 PM

Something is wrong my flex z didnt even max out on 18x9.5 +38 is only .5 inch gap i can tuck the tires my rear is -2.3

BRZSteve 05-01-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sIowbrz (Post 2902150)
Something is wrong my flex z didnt even max out on 18x9.5 +38 is only .5 inch gap i can tuck the tires my rear is -2.3

Yeah thats pretty much the same set up as me so idk what went wrong. Here's some more photo's because that angle and ground not being even might of made things look worse. Rears are completely maxed out and fronts are perfect because they have some more room to go lower. Only looking for another 1/2 for the rears.

mav1178 05-01-2017 08:47 PM

Have you considered contacting Tein USA about this?

If the shock body is bottoming out in the lower bracket, they made a design change in production that has obviously impacted the advertised specs.

My Ohlins from 2013 were a similar situation, I suspect they used parts from another platform to reduce some manufacturing costs.

-alex

BRZSteve 05-01-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2902314)
Have you considered contacting Tein USA about this?

If the shock body is bottoming out in the lower bracket, they made a design change in production that has obviously impacted the advertised specs.

My Ohlins from 2013 were a similar situation, I suspect they used parts from another platform to reduce some manufacturing costs.

-alex

I just contacting them over the phone and they said it was my preload. Apparently this was a common problem. They gave me a link on how I should fix this so ill post it in here if anybody needs. Hopefully this works:D

http://teinusa-blog.com/applying-suspension-preload/

SuperTom 05-08-2017 08:26 AM

You have tons of threads showing. If you want lower you want to the lower cup to move closer to the springs

zc06_kisstherain 05-08-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 2906317)
You have tons of threads showing. If you want lower you want to the lower cup to move closer to the springs

x2

you put more pre-load not height. i was thinking about samething when i saw many thread showing

GrimmSpeed 05-08-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 2906317)
You have tons of threads showing. If you want lower you want to the lower cup to move closer to the springs

Just because there are threads showing doesnt mean that there is anymore adjustment. If the shock body is bottomed out in the cup, that is the lowest it'll go. We have the same coilovers on our car:

http://www.grimmspeed.com/content/im...y/figure23.jpg

This is max adjustment for the rear on our set.

OP, that's all we got out of our car too (same wheels too), but we had a taller sidewall tire, which helped a bit with the gap. We never bothered with adding more preload, as I dont think it would have had the effect we wanted. Yours honestly looks a little bit higher, but it could just be the different tires. It's entirely possible that the shock bodies are longer than they should be, but obviously I'm not positive. But it is a reasonable explanation for why it would be higher than others when maxed out.

Chase
Engineering

SuperTom 05-08-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GrimmSpeed (Post 2906397)
Just because there are threads showing doesnt mean that there is anymore adjustment. If the shock body is bottomed out in the cup, that is the lowest it'll go. We have the same coilovers on our car:

http://www.grimmspeed.com/content/im...y/figure23.jpg

This is max adjustment for the rear on our set.

OP, that's all we got out of our car too (same wheels too), but we had a taller sidewall tire, which helped a bit with the gap. We never bothered with adding more preload, as I dont think it would have had the effect we wanted. Yours honestly looks a little bit higher, but it could just be the different tires. It's entirely possible that the shock bodies are longer than they should be, but obviously I'm not positive. But it is a reasonable explanation for why it would be higher than others when maxed out.

Chase
Engineering



I see what you mean. If the shock body is too long for those then no more will fit into the bottom cup.

BRZSteve 05-09-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GrimmSpeed (Post 2906397)
Just because there are threads showing doesnt mean that there is anymore adjustment. If the shock body is bottomed out in the cup, that is the lowest it'll go. We have the same coilovers on our car:

http://www.grimmspeed.com/content/im...y/figure23.jpg

This is max adjustment for the rear on our set.

OP, that's all we got out of our car too (same wheels too), but we had a taller sidewall tire, which helped a bit with the gap. We never bothered with adding more preload, as I dont think it would have had the effect we wanted. Yours honestly looks a little bit higher, but it could just be the different tires. It's entirely possible that the shock bodies are longer than they should be, but obviously I'm not positive. But it is a reasonable explanation for why it would be higher than others when maxed out.

Chase
Engineering


Thanks for the detailed response, this makes sense now. And yeah, the tire definitely has something to do with it, these are fairly thin sidewalls. The only thing that is confusing is that the passenger side is at least a 1/2 inch lower then the drivers side, which makes me think I did something wrong.

BFIFE22 05-09-2017 06:18 PM

Keep in mind the springs will end up settling a tad. Mine looked similar to yours when I first installed them and now I have in between a 1 and 2 finger gap in the rear


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