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nextcar 04-15-2017 12:52 AM

Nice or Rice?
 
I just saw a 2017 BRZ with performance package in person...

Overall I really liked it a lot with one exception: the new wing. A little too fast and furious for my taste; I prefer the old style or better yet the TRD.

Does the new wing bother anyone else?

The Headhunter 04-15-2017 01:04 AM

I am not into the really tall ones. I think the 2017 spoiler looks amazing. It is low and understated, not obnoxious at all. Funny but my wife prefers the older style though. :-)

spike021 04-15-2017 01:06 AM

I like it. It's not huge, black, and in your face, and it keeps nice and low so it's pretty subtle.

nextcar 04-15-2017 01:17 AM

I really liked it in the pictures... just in person it looked tacked on as opposed to integrated with the design.

This won't be the first time I'm in the minority as far as opinions go...

Tcoat 04-15-2017 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nextcar (Post 2892013)
I really liked it in the pictures... just in person it looked tacked on as opposed to integrated with the design.

This won't be the first time I'm in the minority as far as opinions go...

I am with you! It looks like something from Ebay bolted on the back. Doesn't help that it isn't eve the body colour (other than the ends).

Not as rice as the stock Lancer GTS/GT wing though.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_..._large.jpg?v=0

Couldn't see anything with that thing on the back.

weederr33 04-15-2017 01:40 AM

I prefer the previous version more

Carbinebbq 04-15-2017 01:51 AM

I like it on my 17. It is something different, yet I feel it fits well. The colored pieces on the sides really bring it all together. I was a little unsure of it at first, but it grew on me. After washing the car a few times I liked it a lot. Odd I know. I really like it now. Matter of taste.

Instagram @Blue.icee.brz

FR-Sky 04-15-2017 02:07 AM

not rice enough.

Ultramaroon 04-15-2017 02:10 AM

New wing is beautiful & I believe more functional. It's literally the only change in the car that has my attention.

a little jelly

ToySub1946 04-15-2017 02:21 AM

I like the new wing...looks good.

I also like practical. Washing a car which has a wing is certainly a PIA.

Car needs a turbo in order to make real use of a wing.

JD001 04-15-2017 05:41 AM

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Spotted this 1M in Beijing, ricer??

Boomerang 04-15-2017 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 2892121)
Spotted this 1M in Beijing, ricer??

Yes :D

MarkR171 04-15-2017 06:26 AM

Generally, if you have to ask this question, it's probably the former

JD001 04-15-2017 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkR171 (Post 2892128)
Generally, if you have to ask this question, it's probably the former


You saying 'nice'? It was the rear wing that just looked odd.. it's massive!!!

Gunman 04-15-2017 08:56 AM

I prefer a wing to a spoiler, since they generally have less drag penalty, ie better L/D.

MarkR171 04-15-2017 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 2892129)
You saying 'nice'? It was the rear wing that just looked odd.. it's massive!!!


Oops, I guess I meant "latter."

Dake 04-16-2017 11:35 AM

Has anything been released as to it's functionality? What are the new drag coefficient numbers?

Having not seen it in real life, I think the new wing looks ok - not better or worse than the older one.

Tcoat 04-17-2017 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 2892121)
Spotted this 1M in Beijing, ricer??

No.


Cabbager


And this is Corn
http://www.jerseyrice.com/images/rice/standard_neon.jpg

8RZ 04-17-2017 05:10 PM

It's not my style, stands out too much. I love my '14 spoiler.

fang_gt86 04-17-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2893335)


Mine's better.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...ictureid=10969

Summerwolf 04-17-2017 06:37 PM

I will gladly ditch my 14 spoiler for the new style. Love the look.

HKz 04-17-2017 07:38 PM

..hmm wasn't there something about aesthetics being subjective...

PetrolioBenzina 04-17-2017 07:48 PM

Are pics that hard?

https://icdn-9.motor1.com/images/mgl...irst-drive.jpg

Tcoat 04-17-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 2893442)
..hmm wasn't there something about aesthetics being subjective...

Exactly! And as long as nobody try's to tell somebody they are wrong about liking or disliking it then all is good.

I would have that thing off my car and on it's way to somebody that liked it in a heartbeat.

Carbinebbq 04-17-2017 10:43 PM

For reference purposes...of course. 😁

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1c74ddfdc7.jpg

Instagram @Blue.icee.brz

Ultramaroon 04-18-2017 12:48 AM

I love that thing. So understated, and it's stout.

nextcar 04-18-2017 01:12 AM

Looks good in those pictures, but what I saw was a yellow car and the predominantly black wing, particularly when viewed from above the car - (as in me standing near the rear of the car) looked like an aftermarket tack on.

I think part of it is the relatively low point of view in those pictures and perhaps the extreme color contrast of yellow/black that makes the pictures more appealing to me than the car was in person.

Don't get me wrong - I would not remove it like Tcoat suggests - but I do prefer a more integrated style. Indeed this seems to be the trend with all the automated wings... Porsche, Jaguar, Tesla, etc... body color and following the lines of the car as opposed to a classic wing.

PetrolioBenzina 04-18-2017 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nextcar (Post 2893637)
Indeed this seems to be the trend with all the automated wings... Porsche, Jaguar, Tesla, etc... body color and following the lines of the car as opposed to a classic wing.

Most of the cars that need aero because of the speeds they are built to attain have very subtle and effective designs, baked in at the start. I really have to wonder about some of the stupidly big "ricer" wings and if they have ever had any other design considerations other than "make it bigger, and stupider-looking".

Timmy_Jones 04-18-2017 11:14 AM

TRD and 5-axis 'spoilers' still look much better!

Timmy_Jones 04-18-2017 11:15 AM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...4D26A96045.png

mazeroni 04-18-2017 12:14 PM

I like the '13-'16 spoiler on the BRZ (This is the GT86 spoiler, right?)

MY '13 FR-S has the stock spoiler, which is also available on the new 86, and I really do not like it. Granted, if you view the car from above, it totally matches the lines that start from the front bumper, over the arches, and across the roof. But it makes the read end look bulky as a result of how the "wings" extend over the read haunches and the fact that it rests on the decklid. I would replace it, but they cut a ton of holes in the trunk to mount it.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...5&d=1374613656
*Note my photo

As for the new spoiler, I like that it doesn't rest on the decklid. Also, I think it looks more functional, where my spoiler looks like it was added because the marketers said it would be sporty, and 20-somethings like sporty. Although, it is supposed to slightly reduce drag.

Though I agree the new spoiler looks like an aftermarket piece, but at least they put in the effort to reinforce the deck lid and made it out of aluminum. I feel like they actually put effort into making it more than just an appearance piece, or some after thought.

The 5 Axis stuff and similar spoilers are my favorite.

Edit: Not rice, but maybe not nice on the 86 body. It seems like a good piece of hardware, just applied to the wrong vehicle. I've come to find that the 86 looks best without any spoilers - also, unless you are doing track days, it probably is useless.

frsvr4 04-18-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones (Post 2893822)

That's about the only style wing/spoiler I've seen that doesn't detract significantly from the aesthetics of our cars. The OEM spoilers all look terrible IMO. Leave the ass clean and bare :party0030:

JDM4E 04-18-2017 02:20 PM

I agree with the OP. Pre-facelift for me. I think the car looks taller and "boxier" from back with the new spoiler, the old one gives the car more aggresive yet subtle look. Especially the old one is great with the STI gurney flap.

Shinigami301 04-18-2017 04:39 PM

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I don't know, gang. I'm finding myself very happy not to have any spoiler or wing at all- it was my preference this way.


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