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frs_caskey 04-06-2017 06:35 PM

does OFT have a specific tune for any catted header?
 
i have a oft on stage 1 with catback exhaust. Im wanting to go to stage 2 but dont want a cattless header. Does OFT make any stage 2 specific tunes for any uel catted headers? dont know much about tuning, but im reading a lot and learning as i go. If there isnt any specific stage 2 tunes for catted headers, but i found someone with a custom stage 2 tune for their catted header is there anyway to copy that tune and use it on mine if i get the same catted header as them? (just hypothetical, dont know anyone).

want a uel catted header because i dont want my exhaust stupid loud, but i want the uel rumble.

Shiv@Openflash 04-06-2017 06:47 PM

Yes, we have a tune specific for a FT86 Speedfactory catted header. As reviewed here:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bhnMYvn5S4"]Supercharged vs Tuned - Long Term FRS (GT86) #5 - Everyday Driver - YouTube[/ame]

:)

sroby 04-06-2017 10:51 PM

Oft, tunes for sprintex supercharger
 
Shiv, are you anywhere closer to creating a tune for the sprintex 210 superchargers?

Shiv@Openflash 04-07-2017 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sroby (Post 2886978)
Shiv, are you anywhere closer to creating a tune for the sprintex 210 superchargers?

Yes, we can support the Sprintex SC through our custom e-tuning service. Base map to get you up and running but several refinement over the tuning process.

Glaedon 04-07-2017 08:20 AM

Shiv, how can we get our hands on that tune? Big EDD fan.

Thanks.

sroby 04-07-2017 09:54 AM

Good to know that option is there. thx Steve

BFIFE22 04-07-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glaedon (Post 2887112)
Shiv, how can we get our hands on that tune? Big EDD fan.

Thanks.

Wondering the same thing :)

frs_caskey 04-09-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 2886846)
Yes, we have a tune specific for a FT86 Speedfactory catted header. As reviewed here:

:)

would this tune hypothetically work for any catted header? since atleast from my research almost all catted headers are almost exactly the same?

freerunner 04-10-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frs_caskey (Post 2888267)
would this tune hypothetically work for any catted header? since atleast from my research almost all catted headers are almost exactly the same?

I don't think so. The VVT calibration is always dependent on the header layout, runner diameter and -length. It doesn't really matter if it's catted or not if the cat itself is not the bottleneck. A well-placed cat could produce gains as well (pulse reflection).

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Carbinebbq 04-10-2017 10:42 PM

Hi, I am running Stage 2 91oct UEL with my JDL UEL catted header.

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frs_caskey 04-11-2017 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carbinebbq (Post 2889099)
Hi, I am running Stage 2 91oct UEL with my JDL UEL catted header.

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what kind of sound are you getting from your jdl catted uel header? does it sound same as stock? or are you getting a nice uel rumble from it?

Carbinebbq 04-11-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frs_caskey (Post 2889525)
what kind of sound are you getting from your jdl catted uel header? does it sound same as stock? or are you getting a nice uel rumble from it?

It is minimal, but my exhaust is quiet too. I have an invidia q300.

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mr_squirrel 04-11-2017 04:03 PM

No issues with knock or anything? Still relatively new to tunes and how cats affect flow. Wondering about using the stage 2 uel catless tune with a chatted header.

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Carbinebbq 04-11-2017 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_squirrel (Post 2889536)
No issues with knock or anything? Still relatively new to tunes and how cats affect flow. Wondering about using the stage 2 uel catless tune with a chatted header.

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I don't hear any strange noises besides the crickets. Mine is 2017 so I am using a beta OFT tune. When I spoke to Shiv on the phone he said it was ok that my header had a cat. Not sure about the previous model years. Might be best to give him a call and ask if you're going OFT


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Tectoniic 04-11-2017 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_squirrel (Post 2889536)
No issues with knock or anything? Still relatively new to tunes and how cats affect flow. Wondering about using the stage 2 uel catless tune with a chatted header.

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I've been running the stage 2 UEL 93 catless header tune (older version of the tune if it matters and AT) since winter started with my catted FT86 speedfactory header. I've had some very small FLKC like -.65 but that is usually when going full throttle at low RPM in 5th or 6th gear. I also don't think I've seen my IAM ever get below .88

Take it with a grain of salt and make sure you log on your own vehicle but I haven't had any problems with it and I have my OFT setup where it is mounted and I can see it while driving.

@shiv are the ft86sf catted header tunes available on the downloads page on open flash's site? I don't see them listed but maybe they are just in the regular OTS files?

STV3 04-11-2017 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tectoniic (Post 2889551)
I've been running the stage 2 UEL 93 catless header tune (older version of the tune if it matters and AT) since winter started with my catted FT86 speedfactory header. I've had some very small FLKC like -.65 but that is usually when going full throttle at low RPM in 5th or 6th gear. I also don't think I've seen my IAM ever get below .88

Take it with a grain of salt and make sure you log on your own vehicle but I haven't had any problems with it and I have my OFT setup where it is mounted and I can see it while driving.

@shiv are the ft86sf catted header tunes available on the downloads page on open flash's site? I don't see them listed but maybe they are just in the regular OTS files?

Yeah I've been running that tune too with my FT86SF catted UEL header. Had no clue they had a tune for it.

DarkSunrise 04-11-2017 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frs_caskey (Post 2889525)
what kind of sound are you getting from your jdl catted uel header? does it sound same as stock? or are you getting a nice uel rumble from it?

FWIW I recently switched to a FT86SF catted UEL and lost a lot of that rumble. I could hear it a lot more with my previous setup (JDL catless UEL + aftermarket OP/FP).

BFIFE22 04-11-2017 05:25 PM

With my catted JDL UEL I get rumble in the lower RPMs but it smooths out in the higher RPMs sooner than a catless header from what I can tell from Youtube videos.

I'm also running the Stage 2 UEL tune with mine and I had just a couple places where I had to pull about .5 degrees of timing, but the most FLKC I see now is -.65 and my IAM stays at 1 unless I plant my foot in a high gear at low RPMs (which obviously you don't need to do)

In an earlier post somewhere on the forum Shiv said the tune for the FT86SF catted header would be the new Stage 2, and there would be a Stage 2+ for catless headers. So I would imagine it will run just as well for catted headers as the Stage 2 now currently does

Tectoniic 04-11-2017 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFIFE22 (Post 2889614)
In an earlier post somewhere on the forum Shiv said the tune for the FT86SF catted header would be the new Stage 2, and there would be a Stage 2+ for catless headers. So I would imagine it will run just as well for catted headers as the Stage 2 now currently does

Now that you mention it, I remember seeing that at some point also, the 2 vs 2+. I should probably update my tunes anyway since mine are at least a year old at this point. Maybe I'll finally get around to the cold start corrections too.......

frs_caskey 04-11-2017 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFIFE22 (Post 2889614)
With my catted JDL UEL I get rumble in the lower RPMs but it smooths out in the higher RPMs sooner than a catless header from what I can tell from Youtube videos.

I'm also running the Stage 2 UEL tune with mine and I had just a couple places where I had to pull about .5 degrees of timing, but the most FLKC I see now is -.65 and my IAM stays at 1 unless I plant my foot in a high gear at low RPMs (which obviously you don't need to do)

In an earlier post somewhere on the forum Shiv said the tune for the FT86SF catted header would be the new Stage 2, and there would be a Stage 2+ for catless headers. So I would imagine it will run just as well for catted headers as the Stage 2 now currently does

so there is a new stage 2 for catted headers? and a new 2+ for catless??

Tectoniic 04-11-2017 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frs_caskey (Post 2889730)
so there is a new stage 2 for catted headers? and a new 2+ for catless??

right now OFT's site shows just the OTS tunes and OFH optimized ones. OTS tunes were last update 3/30/16

http://www.openflashtablet.com/downloads/

I emailed shiv after work today and i'll post what he says about these tunes or where to find the speedfactory ones.

BFIFE22 04-11-2017 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frs_caskey (Post 2889730)
so there is a new stage 2 for catted headers? and a new 2+ for catless??

He said when the V.3 OTS Tunes were released there would be a Stage 2 and Stage2+. The Stage 2 was going to be the tune he did for the FT86SF catted header, and the Stage 2+ would be for the OpenFlash Catless Header. Not sure which one someone with a catless header that isn't an OF brand would be better to use, but at least we will know that the Stage 2 was done with a catted header in mind. The V.3 Tunes haven't been released yet though

frs_caskey 04-11-2017 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFIFE22 (Post 2889780)
He said when the V.3 OTS Tunes were released there would be a Stage 2 and Stage2+. The Stage 2 was going to be the tune he did for the FT86SF catted header, and the Stage 2+ would be for the OpenFlash Catless Header. Not sure which one someone with a catless header that isn't an OF brand would be better to use, but at least we will no that the Stage 2 was done with a catted header in mind. The V.3 Tunes haven't been released yet though

when will the v.3 tunes be released? also if stage 2+ would be for cattless OFH but everyone is using it for all cattless headers then the 2 would work for any catted header?? because i think i want to go with the JDl catted header over the FT86SF catted header. but i want to make sure the JDL catted will get as much help from the tune as the FT86SF catted will get.

steve99 04-11-2017 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frs_caskey (Post 2886840)

want a uel catted header because i dont want my exhaust stupid loud, but i want the uel rumble.


It wont be stupid loud if you keep the stock front pipe with secondary cat in it. And if you want super quiet just keep the stock catback as well. else get something like invidia Q300 or similar


Catless header will be more efficient and cheaper.

frs_caskey 04-11-2017 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 2889863)
It wont be stupid loud if you keep the stock front pipe with secondary cat in it. And if you want super quiet just keep the stock catback as well. else get something like invidia Q300 or similar


Catless header will be more efficient and cheaper.

im going with a catted header because i already have the mxp comp rs exhaust. its a pretty loud catback by itself and i feel once paired with a cattless uel it will be much louder. unless im mistaken on how much louder a cattless header will make it.

G-awesome 04-17-2017 07:54 PM

don't think there's a set date for the v.3 tunes so we folks will have to wait patiently...
I'm itching to get my hands on the official catted header tune to see how much better it runs than my amateur stage 1/2 frankentune

Carbinebbq 04-17-2017 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-awesome (Post 2893451)
don't think there's a set date for the v.3 tunes so we folks will have to wait patiently...
I'm itching to get my hands on the official catted header tune to see how much better it runs than my amateur stage 1/2 frankentune

Lol is frankentune your name for the beta? 😁😅

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Glaedon 04-20-2017 03:46 PM

Hey all, just a quick update.

I shot Shiv and email about the catted header tune. He got back to me promptly and we worked it out to have him email me a Stg2 Catted UEL tune. I just flashed on Tuesday and so far - so good. If you really want the tune you may want to shoot Shiv an email.

Tectoniic 04-20-2017 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glaedon (Post 2895658)
Hey all, just a quick update.

I shot Shiv and email about the catted header tune. He got back to me promptly and we worked it out to have him email me a Stg2 Catted UEL tune. I just flashed on Tuesday and so far - so good. If you really want the tune you may want to shoot Shiv an email.

Shiv sent me one by email as well. I hesitated about posting it on here because I didn't want him to get hit with a ton of emails.

I have the D00D cal ID one for 2015 6AT that I can forward if people are looking for that exact one.

Haven't put it on the car yet but I should have time this weekend to put it through its paces :thumbup:

Carbinebbq 04-20-2017 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tectoniic (Post 2895912)
Shiv sent me one by email as well. I hesitated about posting it on here because I didn't want him to get hit with a ton of emails.

I have the D00D cal ID one for 2015 6AT that I can forward if people are looking for that exact one.

Haven't put it on the car yet but I should have time this weekend to put it through its paces :thumbup:

Which catted header are you running?

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Tectoniic 04-20-2017 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carbinebbq (Post 2895913)
Which catted header are you running?

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ft86 speedfactory

Carbinebbq 04-20-2017 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tectoniic (Post 2895915)
ft86 speedfactory

Nice. I went with JDL. Did catted to reduce noise and smell. Then again I kinda like the smell...

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mr_squirrel 04-21-2017 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carbinebbq (Post 2895917)
Nice. I went with JDL. Did catted to reduce noise and smell. Then again I kinda like the smell...

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Curious about the jdl catted since I have a 2017. I want the rumble but don't know if I can justify the cost since performance gains would be small, if even existent.

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Carbinebbq 04-21-2017 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_squirrel (Post 2896073)
Curious about the jdl catted since I have a 2017. I want the rumble but don't know if I can justify the cost since performance gains would be small, if even existent.

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Mine is 2017. Feels like it has more power with stage 2

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Carbinebbq 04-21-2017 02:35 AM

Just out of curiosity, are there any numbers on what a Stage 2 OFT tune produces on the 2017 model? Did some googling, but no luck.

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SuperTom 06-20-2017 05:37 PM

Bumping this as im looking at headers and really want to do a catted UEL mostly this going to be a DD first and don't want to sound like sh*t if I add a extra quiet front back and a quiet catback. Don't want to be stuck with a stage 1 tune when I can get 93 oct around here and would like a stage 2 tune to advantage. So has there been any updates? I am also 2017 and am holding out on OFT until official release.

DAEMANO 06-20-2017 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 2932236)
Bumping this as im looking at headers and really want to do a catted UEL mostly this going to be a DD first and don't want to sound like sh*t if I add a extra quiet front back and a quiet catback. Don't want to be stuck with a stage 1 tune when I can get 93 oct around here and would like a stage 2 tune to advantage. So has there been any updates? I am also 2017 and am holding out on OFT until official release.

Shiv generally releases a base set of tunes for the most popular hardware in his off-the-shelf tunes. For tunes outside of that hardware, you'll likely have to pay for and request an e-tune.

http://www.openflashtablet.com/shop/custom-e-tuning/

SuperTom 06-20-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2932246)
Shiv generally releases a base set of tunes for the most popular hardware in his off-the-shelf tunes. For tunes outside of that hardware, you'll likely have to pay for and request an e-tune.

http://www.openflashtablet.com/shop/custom-e-tuning/



Yeah just found a newer post where they are working on a v3 which will have a stage 2 catted tunes. really don't want to spend that much more for a custom tune. I'll just wait until they finalize the new canned tunes

yam86 10-12-2017 11:12 AM

I want to run a stage 2 OTS tune with my nameless catted EL headers.
Is there an of the shelf tune for it available now?

Lakitu 10-16-2017 01:30 PM

Is there any benefit to getting a stage 1 tune before you change headers?
Edit: Nevermind. I found the answer.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111471


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