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PetrolioBenzina 04-05-2017 08:48 PM

Note to US FR-S rebadgers.....
 
The only thing on the back of an 86 is the "T".

Tcoat 04-05-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2886231)
The only thing on the back of an 86 is the "T".

And even if it did have an 86 (which they don't) it isn't a GT 86!

Clipdat 04-05-2017 08:53 PM

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PetrolioBenzina 04-05-2017 09:20 PM

How long until Scion becomes cool and they have to revert or be uncool?

Impureclient 04-05-2017 09:25 PM

Wait, Scions aren't cool now?! Were we ever cool or is it only the 86s that are cool? I'm trading in, I'm not driving no lame car.

PetrolioBenzina 04-05-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2886260)
Wait, Scions aren't cool now?! Were we ever cool or is it only the 86s that are cool? I'm trading in, I'm not driving no lame car.

Not cool to rebadgers, I guess. At least get the badges and location correct if you want a GT86.

Tcoat 04-05-2017 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2886269)
Not cool to rebadgers, I guess. At least get the badges and location correct if you want a GT86.

If you want a GT86 you have to add a bunch of extras as well. I suppose the Monogram guys could claim to have GTs though.

PetrolioBenzina 04-05-2017 09:41 PM

Just yelling at clouds over something I dont understand I guess.

wulfstan 04-05-2017 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2886271)
If you want a GT86 you have to add a bunch of extras as well. I suppose the Monogram guys could claim to have GTs though.

Yup, that's what I was going to claim when I have my GT86 badges on there...

PetrolioBenzina 04-05-2017 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wulfstan (Post 2886279)
Yup, that's what I was going to claim when I have my GT86 badges on there...

Other than "because" and "why not", why?

Tcoat 04-05-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2886278)
Just yelling at clouds over something I dont understand I guess.

Meh. It is the same as changing wheels, exhausts or even front bumpers. Some people just have preferences.

wulfstan 04-05-2017 10:03 PM

"Because" and "Why Not" hahaha
 
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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2886281)
Other than "because" and "why not", why?

My goal with my build is to create a TRD vehicle that could have been imported to the US. I started with the Monogram but if I waited a few years, I could have started with the Banana Release. I could badge it as TRD but wanted to have a US version of the GT86. So that's the because and why not...

My build page: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56168

~wulfstan

extrashaky 04-05-2017 11:13 PM

The Scion brand will forever be painted in the color of douche, despite how good a car the FRS was. In 50 years the very few xBs, iQs and other goofy shit models sold under the Scion name that will have escaped the crusher will be a novelty. The drivers will take them to swap meets and car gatherings where people will laugh and marvel, "Can you believe people actually drove around in cars that stupid-looking?" Kind of like AMC Pacers today, where it's so ugly it's cool.

At that point having your 86 badged as a Scion might score some geek points, but most people won't care.

humfrz 04-06-2017 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2886284)
Meh. It is the same as changing wheels, exhausts or even front bumpers. Some people just have preferences.

One of Tcoats nicer posts ..... :thumbsup:


:D


humfrz

Kaotic Lazagna 04-06-2017 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2886271)
If you want a GT86 you have to add a bunch of extras as well. I suppose the Monogram guys could claim to have GTs though.

That's why I rebadged my monogram. I just had to decide on whether I wanted to badge it as the Euro GT86, or the Japanese 86. I went with the Euro since I got the badging already. haha.

Just need the airbag, but I really don't want to spend 600+ on that.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 04-06-2017 01:22 AM

Even the Toyota badge isn't cool. I'm rebadging my 86 to the 86 Loden emblem at the front and GT86 at the back

PandaSPUR 04-06-2017 02:49 AM

Another reason why I went with the BRZ :popcorn:

m.box.design 04-06-2017 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2886418)
Another reason why I went with the BRZ :popcorn:

I dunno if the Subaru brand is immune here. Look at Impreza and Legacy / Outback owners.

Riftur 04-06-2017 07:48 AM

I do not understand the re-badge away from scion. Eventually people will want the scion version cause they weren't made for a very long time.

wulfstan 04-06-2017 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2886477)
I do not understand the re-badge away from scion. Eventually people will want the scion version cause they weren't made for a very long time.

So I kept my SCION Badges for the reason... Who knows, I'll go back and have a "Monogram" badge made... hahah

extrashaky 04-06-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2886477)
I do not understand the re-badge away from scion. Eventually people will want the scion version cause they weren't made for a very long time.

You can always slap that plastic shit back on with some 3M tape.

Riftur 04-06-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2886487)
You can always slap that plastic shit back on with some 3M tape.

I know it was just the point. Are people really that ashamed that they drive a scion? From where I am from the brand rep was very neutral. I am actually changing my badges to the black scion versions but still keeping it scion. If I ever sell the car the old badges will go with it in case the new owner wants them.

wulfstan 04-06-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2886489)
I know it was just the point. Are people really that ashamed that they drive a scion? From where I am from the brand rep was very neutral. I am actually changing my badges to the black scion versions but still keeping it scion. If I ever sell the car the old badges will go with it in case the new owner wants them.

Of course all this is IMHO but I don't think it's a matter of being ashamed. At the time, Toyota was a more known product. Even with all the other lines, Lexus, Toyota, Scion, it was always known that Toyota was the parent company. SCION is a unique niche but the product they sold (FR-S vs GT86) was so stripped down that I associated the brand with a lower appeal to the younger generation. It wasn't until their 10-Series, Monogram, Release Series to make up for it. It will probably be a unique badge in itself later, but right now, with "my goals", I would rather have the Toyota Badging. Just my $.02 cents.

Dake 04-06-2017 10:33 AM

No, there really is no reason except vanity (says the guy with a Vanity plate, but I'm not trying to fool myself).

The people that don't know the car, don't notice the badge-swap and even if they do, don't care. The people that DO know the car, know it's a badge swap and aren't fooled or impressed. Might as well donate the money to the charity of your choice so it'll at least do some good.

I don't even think it's of the same level as a wheel swap. Even if it's purely aesthetic, wheels are the shoes of the car and lend personality. Badge swap is like stick-on air vents - it's the equivalent of wearing a pin on your jacket. :D :D

Riftur 04-06-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wulfstan (Post 2886500)
Of course all this is IMHO but I don't think it's a matter of being ashamed. At the time, Toyota was a more known product. Even with all the other lines, Lexus, Toyota, Scion, it was always known that Toyota was the parent company. SCION is a unique niche but the product they sold (FR-S vs GT86) was so stripped down that I associated the brand with a lower appeal to the younger generation. It wasn't until their 10-Series, Monogram, Release Series to make up for it. It will probably be a unique badge in itself later, but right now, with "my goals", I would rather have the Toyota Badging. Just my $.02 cents.

Its all personal preference of course.

Riftur 04-06-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dake (Post 2886523)
No, there really is no reason except vanity (says the guy with a Vanity plate, but I'm not trying to fool myself).

The people that don't know the car, don't notice the badge-swap and even if they do, don't care. The people that DO know the car, know it's a badge swap and aren't fooled or impressed. Might as well donate the money to the charity of your choice so it'll at least do some good.

I don't even think it's of the same level as a wheel swap. Even if it's purely aesthetic, wheels are the shoes of the car and lend personality. Badge swap is like stick-on air vents - it's the equivalent of wearing a pin on your jacket. :D :D

lol

PetrolioBenzina 04-06-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2886528)
lol

I was going to wave at my fellow 86 owner, all I saw at first was the "T". Then I saw the "Toyota" (not on a GT86 and GT86 badge in the wrong place) and decided not to waste my wave on a putz. You rebadgers need to come up with a wave/sig fellow owners can give that shows we know your badges are a lie.

Who are you trying to impress? I had a cheap-ass Scion (yes, I know, Toyota) with Suburu stamped all over it. I now have a cheap ass Toyota. Maybe I need Scion badges and an FR-S front.

stevesnj 04-06-2017 11:57 AM

To me this car is a Toyota so i re-badged to Toyota...

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7qDE...RQ2c/giphy.gif

humfrz 04-06-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dake (Post 2886523)
No, there really is no reason except vanity (says the guy with a Vanity plate, but I'm not trying to fool myself).

The people that don't know the car, don't notice the badge-swap and even if they do, don't care. The people that DO know the car, know it's a badge swap and aren't fooled or impressed. Might as well donate the money to the charity of your choice so it'll at least do some good.

I don't even think it's of the same level as a wheel swap. Even if it's purely aesthetic, wheels are the shoes of the car and lend personality. Badge swap is like stick-on air vents - it's the equivalent of wearing a pin on your jacket. :D :D

:clap:


humfrz

Shinchu 04-06-2017 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2886477)
I do not understand the re-badge away from scion. Eventually people will want the scion version cause they weren't made for a very long time.

this is kinda my hope since I got the last production year of the SCION version of the car.
as an actual collector car (I lol just at that thought but hey...) I think a 10 series would be more valuable.


Scion used California for a test market for at least a year before it was released to the rest of the 49, and being a native Californian, I think that's kind of a cool part of Toyota history.


I had actually planned on re-badging to 86, then I found out scion was going away, so am still sporting my scion badges with pride.

Tcoat 04-06-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dake (Post 2886523)
No, there really is no reason except vanity (says the guy with a Vanity plate, but I'm not trying to fool myself).

The people that don't know the car, don't notice the badge-swap and even if they do, don't care. The people that DO know the car, know it's a badge swap and aren't fooled or impressed. Might as well donate the money to the charity of your choice so it'll at least do some good.

I don't even think it's of the same level as a wheel swap
. Even if it's purely aesthetic, wheels are the shoes of the car and lend personality. Badge swap is like stick-on air vents - it's the equivalent of wearing a pin on your jacket. :D :D

I have said the same here about 100 times. The whole SCION sucks thing is a bias of a very small segment of the population and 99.999% of the people out there do not know nor care if it is badged as Toyota, Scion, Subaru or Yugo. The only way to impress them would to be badge it as a Ferrari or something and then the .0001% that do know what it is will laugh at you.


The badges are the nose ring of the car and still add personality even if it is just for the owner too enjoy.


I find it amazing that 5 years in and the bloody badges are still such a hot topic. It is just a freakin' badge.

Tcoat 04-06-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinchu (Post 2886565)
this is kinda my hope since I got the last production year of the SCION version of the car.
as an actual collector car (I lol just at that thought but hey...) I think a 10 series would be more valuable.

Have Pontiacs sky rocketed it value? How about Saturns? Is a Mercury Capri worth more than a Mustang of the same vintage?
The fact that they were badged Scion will never, ever make them collectable. Yes, 30 years from now a 10 Series could be worth a couple of dollars more but it will have nothing to do with the Scion badges on it. Could also be valueless since the 18s will be turbo, AWD, with unicorn skin upholstery and full hover technology which would totally destroy the value of the prior models regardless of badge.
People seem to think this is the first time a badge went away. It is actually someplace in the hundreds of times it has happened.

Clipdat 04-06-2017 12:45 PM

I find it amazing that after three years on the forum, YOU'RE still such a hot topic. You're just a freakin Canadian!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2886586)
I find it amazing that 5 years in and the bloody badges are still such a hot topic. It is just a freakin' badge.


Tcoat 04-06-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2886591)
I find it amazing that after three years on the forum, YOU'RE still such a hot topic. You're just a freakin Canadian!

Not sure that I qualify as a "topic" so much.

Clipdat 04-06-2017 12:56 PM

Ahem:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/searc...rchid=14921650

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2886596)
Not sure that I qualify as a "topic" so much.


Tcoat 04-06-2017 01:01 PM

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LOL
Fail

humfrz 04-06-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2886596)
Not sure that I qualify as a "topic" so much.

Nor ..... HOT ....... but yes, Canadian ....... :D


humfrz

Tcoat 04-06-2017 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2886609)
Nor ..... HOT ....... but yes, Canadian ....... :D


humfrz

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Clipdat 04-06-2017 01:18 PM

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Crap, here you go:

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2886604)
LOL
Fail


Tcoat 04-06-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2886614)
Crap, here you go:

HMMMMM. Maybe I need to rebadge myself.


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