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SLVRSRFR 03-11-2017 12:18 PM

Fog light bulbs melting/burning Laminex?
 
Good day everyone,

I applied Laminex yellow over-lays on my BRZ fog lights 2 summers ago. I bought the overlays online from FT86SpeedFactory and applied them myself.

However, after all this time, there are now some dark "burnt" spots showing on the Laminex in the very middle of both fog lights. At first I thought perhaps it was dirt or dust getting in behind the Laminex, but upon closer inspection, it seems as if I applied it pretty well and there is no way any dirt could have gotten in there.

A friend who also has a BRZ said he heard it was because the factory fog light bulbs burn too hot and will melt the Laminex, and I have to swap the bulbs out to stop this from happening.

Is there any truth to this?

I'm going to have to replace the Laminex, as it looks like shit now. But I don't want to go through all the trouble if the same thing is going to happen again.

I just had a fog light bulb go out the other day, so I want to replace both, and wanted some advice on what bulbs I should look to get to avoid this happening in the future.

I'll try and post a picture later so you can see what I mean (I'm at work right now).

Thanks for any help/advice!

SCQTT 03-11-2017 12:33 PM

Same happened to me (with yellow) on my Miata. Stock bulbs too. Laminex says they know of the problem and have made a change, they may or may not warranty your old ones. I have since purchased new, but have not put them on yet. I also bought yellow overlays for the headlights, but if the fogs discolor the headlights seem like they would actually melt.

SLVRSRFR 03-11-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SCQTT (Post 2870064)
Same happened to me (with yellow) on my Miata. Stock bulbs too. Laminex says they know of the problem and have made a change, they may or may not warranty your old ones. I have since purchased new, but have not put them on yet. I also bought yellow overlays for the headlights, but if the fogs discolor the headlights seem like they would actually melt.

Thanks. I was planning on doing the headlights too, but i'm not even going to try those myself.

The fog lights were hard enough as it is, and they were perfectly circular. The headlights, being such an odd shape...there's no way I'd try it myself.

I have a connection with a professional tint guy (I work at a dealership) and will probably get him to do the headlights and re-apply on the fog lights, but again (especially since I have a bulb out) I want to put the right bulbs in before I pay someone to do that only to have them burn through again.

So it might be an issue with the Laminex itself and not the bulbs? I'll have to investigate that further, unless you have some links handy?

Overdrive 03-11-2017 03:12 PM

Well, considering the lights were not designed to have anything layered on top of the lenses, the bulbs aren't really burning too hot. They're doing what they were designed to do. It's the Laminex that isn't up to the task. You could put LED bulbs in place of the stock ones, which shouldn't really ever burn hot enough to harm your overlay, but you could also just get a different colored bulb, too, and avoid needing a tinted overlay altogether. Can't do that with the headlights (not legally in most places, at least), but at least with fog lights you can just get a yellow tinted bulb or yellow LED bulb.

stevesnj 03-11-2017 07:25 PM

Yeh just get LED's

SLVRSRFR 03-13-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive (Post 2870166)
Well, considering the lights were not designed to have anything layered on top of the lenses, the bulbs aren't really burning too hot. They're doing what they were designed to do. It's the Laminex that isn't up to the task. You could put LED bulbs in place of the stock ones, which shouldn't really ever burn hot enough to harm your overlay, but you could also just get a different colored bulb, too, and avoid needing a tinted overlay altogether. Can't do that with the headlights (not legally in most places, at least), but at least with fog lights you can just get a yellow tinted bulb or yellow LED bulb.

I was thinking of just getting yellow bulbs, BUT I like the look of the yellow over-lay even when the bulbs are not on during the day time, so that option was quickly dismissed.

It seems like LED is the best route; that being said, does anyone have any idea what specific LED bulbs I should be looking for that will fit the OEM BRZ fog lights? Sizing/brand etc.

Forgive me; I'm not super familiar with light bulbs. lol

Thanks again everyone.

Stang70Fastback 03-13-2017 05:31 PM

Here's what I did, if you want to consider this route:

http://www.seriesblueadventures.com/...led-fog-lamps/

SLVRSRFR 03-13-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 2871403)
Here's what I did, if you want to consider this route:

http://www.seriesblueadventures.com/...led-fog-lamps/

Dude. Amazing. Just what I was looking for, and then I can re-apply the overlays to these once they're installed.

The price is right too!

I'm going to order a set soon and install them once the snow has cleared. Do they come with the bulbs or do you have to purchase those separately?

Many thanks!

PS "NOT AWD" - awesome license plate!! :thumbsup:

Cole 03-13-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SLVRSRFR (Post 2871434)
Dude. Amazing. Just what I was looking for, and then I can re-apply the overlays to these once they're installed.

The price is right too!

I'm going to order a set soon and install them once the snow has cleared. Do they come with the bulbs or do you have to purchase those separately?

Many thanks!

PS "NOT AWD" - awesome license plate!! :thumbsup:

Last I checked, they come as a whole assembly. I'd also recommend looking into the Morimoto kit. I've had a set of Morimoto HID's and the quality is absolute top notch, and their customer service is killer.

I made a mistake on my order, and called them about it. They took the box out of the shipping pile and corrected the order while I waited on the other end of the line. Wouldn't hesitate to do business with them again.

Stang70Fastback 03-13-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SLVRSRFR (Post 2871434)
Do they come with the bulbs or do you have to purchase those separately?

They are a sealed, "non-serviceable" unit. You un-box them, install them, aim them, and that's it.

Overdrive 03-13-2017 10:03 PM

Thanks for sharing. Great solution, and something I'd go for once I get my fog lights done.

SLVRSRFR 03-14-2017 12:08 PM

Thank you everyone for your help and input!

I will be placing my order ASAP so I have them ready-to-install once all this fluffy white bullshit is gone for good.

Stang70Fastback 03-14-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SLVRSRFR (Post 2871788)
...once all this fluffy white bullshit is gone for good.

There was a tiny bit of fluffy white bullshit on my car this morning too...

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31....a9&oe=596DB9C1

SLVRSRFR 03-14-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 2871816)
There was a tiny bit of fluffy white bullshit on my car this morning too...

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31....a9&oe=596DB9C1

Holy snap! Looks like your car is wearing one of those medical masks LOL!

Hope you cleared that shit out before you drove so your rad could breathe!

My car had a mask this morning too, but nothing like that.

Stang70Fastback 03-14-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SLVRSRFR (Post 2871886)
Hope you cleared that shit out before you drove so your rad could breathe!

My car had a mask this morning too, but nothing like that.

This was AFTER I got done hooning around on local roads for 30 minutes. Turns out our radiators don't need air to work, lol.

Overdrive 03-14-2017 02:15 PM

If it were physically possible to have snow covering your grille on a 110° day, I'd say that's about the only time you'd be concerned about your grille being obstructed by snow. If it's cold enough to snow, it's cold enough to not worry about your car overheating unless you're bouncing off the Rev limiter for 5 minutes...at which point you'll have many other problems.

Old school cars used to actually close the grille slats in cold weather to keep cold air out. Humfrz probably remembers that.

JazzleSAURUS 03-14-2017 02:19 PM

The option I went with was the black housing, glass lens outback fogs, with Hella H11 bulbs in yellow, and a PSX24W to H11 adapter. I'm happy with my solution.
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...55249920_n.jpg

https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...616_n.jpg?se=7

SLVRSRFR 03-14-2017 02:20 PM

I was mostly being facetious, but there ya go.

I did a little hooning last night too. Couldn't resist.

Stang70Fastback 03-14-2017 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive (Post 2871894)
If it's cold enough to snow, it's cold enough to not worry about your car overheating unless you're bouncing off the Rev limiter for 5 minutes...at which point you'll have many other problems.

Good thing I wasn't revving the crap out of it for 30 minutes straight while I hooned around all the snowy roads or anything...

...wait, no, that's EXACTLY what I did :P

SLVRSRFR 03-14-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS (Post 2871903)
The option I went with was the black housing, glass lens outback fogs, with Hella H11 bulbs in yellow, and a PSX24W to H11 adapter. I'm happy with my solution.
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...55249920_n.jpg

https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...616_n.jpg?se=7

Looks good, but I'm apprehensive about a glass lens considering all the dents and dings my current fog light lenses already have...

One of the glass fog light lenses on my 944 that I used to have about 10 years ago cracked after a huge rock was kicked up by an 18-wheeler I was following. I watched it bounce, bounce...and then heard a sickening "ting" sound. Got home to see the glass lens cracked right the way through.

Overdrive 03-14-2017 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback (Post 2871970)
Good thing I wasn't revving the crap out of it for 30 minutes straight while I hooned around all the snowy roads or anything...

...wait, no, that's EXACTLY what I did :P

Crap revving isn't constant flooring with no load and no relief, so yeah, good thing you weren't doing that, lol.

Can't wait to allegedly hoon around the neighborhood later...:cheers:

JazzleSAURUS 03-15-2017 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SLVRSRFR (Post 2871989)
Looks good, but I'm apprehensive about a glass lens considering all the dents and dings my current fog light lenses already have...

One of the glass fog light lenses on my 944 that I used to have about 10 years ago cracked after a huge rock was kicked up by an 18-wheeler I was following. I watched it bounce, bounce...and then heard a sickening "ting" sound. Got home to see the glass lens cracked right the way through.

Based on how awful my oem plastic lenses looked after 25k miles, I'll take my chances.

I generally prefer glass lenses as they are much clearer, don't pit as fast, and can usually be replaced. For $35/side, I'll just buy another housing and swap it out and enjoy being able to run higher wattage.
https://i.imgur.com/qJLq451.jpg


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