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IWannaGoFast 03-03-2017 12:45 AM

2017 OTA Time-Attack Schedule
 
These are the confirmed dates for the 2017 OTA Time-Attack season

Competition Events

#1 June 10 - Toronto Motorsports Park
#2 June 25 - CTMP Grand Prix Track
#3 July 29 - CTMP Driver Development Track
#4 July 30 - CTMP Driver Development Track
#5 August 26 - Shannonville Motorsport Park
#6 August 27 - Shannonville Motorsport Park

Driver Schools

#1 May 13 - CTMP Driver Development Track
#2 June 24 - CTMP Grand Prix Track

For more details on registration and pricing visit http://time-attack.ca/ and https://www.facebook.com/OntarioTimeAttack/, or come out to the annual time-attack open house on April 1st at JRP Mississauga, 2344 South Sheridan Way from 11:30 to 2:30.



About Ontario Time Attack

Ontario Time Attack is one of the most affordable forms of motorsports, with access to Ontario’s finest race tracks. Ontario Time Attack is a great place to enjoy the thrill of grassroots racing, with the safety of a sanctioned organization and professional track marshals. Push the limits of yourself and your vehicle against the clock. Our season-long Championship Series is open to anyone, even on a single event basis and features a diverse group of competitors and vehicles, factory stock to race-prepped machines. To ensure the best season possible, we offer a Time Attack School at the beginning of the year to get drivers up to speed for the season and a second School to introduce you to Canada’s famous Canadian Tire Motorsports Park Mosport Grand Prix Track. All events include: generous lapping time, a chance to ride or drive with experienced racers, certified instructors to help you practice and improve your driving skills.

For more information please visit http://time-attack.ca/ and https://www.facebook.com/OntarioTimeAttack/

wparsons 03-03-2017 10:49 AM

Welcome Carsten!

JBezugs 03-03-2017 12:16 PM

So pumped for this! Just waiting (impatiently) to pick up my BRZ now... Hopefully I can pass the break in period before the season starts. :lol:

Frost 03-04-2017 02:32 AM

I can finally do this series this year! Wooooooooooohoooooooo!

It's been a long time coming!

wparsons 03-07-2017 11:53 AM

For the people that prefer visuals:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31....46&oe=592EE7F8

Frost 03-08-2017 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2867127)
For the people that prefer visuals:

Is that the monster Civic SI in GT2 who ran a 1:22 at TMP?

Motherf*#%$%!! I went in all happy until I saw his time...

jamies31 03-09-2017 05:50 PM

Gonna have to see if i can book some saturdays off.....if it wasn't for that i'd probably cancel out cscs all together and just run ota

wparsons 03-10-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2868139)
Is that the monster Civic SI in GT2 who ran a 1:22 at TMP?

Motherf*#%$%!! I went in all happy until I saw his time...

Last year? I think Corey (former GT1 champ before selling his BMW) ran the TMP even as a co-drive in Grant's SI (bright orange). I'd be more worried about Kyle running a 1:25 in his T2 Celica! If you really want to see how the times stack up amongst classes, look at the third page of the results file:

http://time-attack.ca/wp-content/upl...-1-Results.pdf

The closer to 100 points you are, the faster you are relative to your iPAX factor.

Frost 03-10-2017 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2869626)
Last year? I think Corey (former GT1 champ before selling his BMW) ran the TMP even as a co-drive in Grant's SI (bright orange). I'd be more worried about Kyle running a 1:25 in his T2 Celica! If you really want to see how the times stack up amongst classes, look at the third page of the results file:

http://time-attack.ca/wp-content/upl...-1-Results.pdf

The closer to 100 points you are, the faster you are relative to your iPAX factor.

I'm just concerned about my grouping for GT3. The S2k is pretty high up on that class so there's not a lot of PIP left for me to use before I get bumped into GT2.

I already have 1 PIP for alignment and have another whole point left...

I noticed that no one from GT3 is on that page though... we'll see how I stack up.

wparsons 03-11-2017 05:36 PM

iPAX means the classing doesn't *really* matter. Your iPAX factor is calculated directly off your final PI. The old PAX system your PAX factor was based on the class, so it was advantageous to be as high in the class as possible without bumping to the next class. There's no longer any advantage to being maxed out in a class, so save your pennies for entry fees unless you find something that needs to be changed out!

Now the only thing classes matter for is who you're being scored against that day.

wparsons 03-11-2017 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamies31 (Post 2868943)
Gonna have to see if i can book some saturdays off.....if it wasn't for that i'd probably cancel out cscs all together and just run ota

There's some sunday events too, including the CTMP GP event!

Frost 03-14-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2870223)
There's some sunday events too, including the CTMP GP event!

I can't wait to finally get on the GP track!!!

wparsons 03-14-2017 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2872051)
I can't wait to finally get on the GP track!!!

It'll change your life! Bring your big boy pants for turns 2 and 4 :D

Frost 03-14-2017 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2872134)
It'll change your life! Bring your big boy pants for turns 2 and 4 :D

I've been playing simulators and watching tons of videos on that track. It'll probably take me 4-5 laps before I'm used to the drops but I think karting has taken away some of that fear :D

wparsons 03-15-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2872259)
I've been playing simulators and watching tons of videos on that track. It'll probably take me 4-5 laps before I'm used to the drops but I think karting has taken away some of that fear :D

It's not so much the drops, it's getting comfortable with the feeling of adding more power to stabilize the rear of the car after the apex. Most rwd cars stay loose all the way to exit unless you're WOT well before (super high HP will be different).

Frost 03-15-2017 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2872578)
It's not so much the drops, it's getting comfortable with the feeling of adding more power to stabilize the rear of the car after the apex. Most rwd cars stay loose all the way to exit unless you're WOT well before (super high HP will be different).

I noticed that on the simulator, gotta plant power down to settle the car.

It's actually like a bigger nastier version of turn 7 on DDT (with two kinks). Nobody has told me to plant power down to settle it but I found out through a little bit of experimentation and seemingly stupid bravery.

drewbot 03-15-2017 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamies31 (Post 2868943)
Gonna have to see if i can book some saturdays off.....if it wasn't for that i'd probably cancel out cscs all together and just run ota

Well the ruleset for OTA is only 100x better than CSCS, so I'd say do it

Frost 03-15-2017 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 2872603)
Well the ruleset for OTA is only 100x better than CSCS, so I'd say do it

I wanna comment so bad but I won't... lol

drewbot 03-16-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2873066)
I wanna comment so bad but I won't... lol

Don't worry, I'll do it for you....

CSCS' ruleset is an absolute joke for time attack. There is way too much of a divide within each class, and it borders on "pay to win" like its a mobile phone game with in-app purchases. It is more about the popularity and showing off of cars rather than anything else.

Frost 03-16-2017 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 2873524)
Don't worry, I'll do it for you....

CSCS' ruleset is an absolute joke for time attack. There is way too much of a divide within each class, and it borders on "pay to win" like its a mobile phone game with in-app purchases. It is more about the popularity and showing off of cars rather than anything else.

Quoted for truth.

On one hand, some folks will argue to me that I just can't afford to "get in the game" on the other hand, my counter is that I have yet to maximize my car.

In their defence, it is also the reason why they attract so many folks to their events which means great publicity. On the other hand, its not necessarily the publicity I want either which is why I like OTA's formal approach (pros and cons).

I've had opportunities to actually go up against some CSCS folks at other events and have nipped at their heels in a STOCK version of their car.

That being said, there's folks at CSCS that are genuinely fast drivers and my hats go off to them.

I should be able to attend just over half of the OTA events this year. Would love to see how I stack up against the rest of the competition. Am very rusty though since I wasn't allowed to get on the track much last year with the exception of other school events.

Can't wait!

wparsons 03-16-2017 10:02 PM

Time attack globally is a pretty extreme sport, there's very few series that get you involved with minimal cost. OTA and the SCCA solo are two off the top of my head. WTAC, GTA, etc all get pretty wild.

OTA iPAX scoring is designed to take the car out of the equation and make it a drivers challenge. Other series make it more of a combination of builder and driver.

Frost 03-16-2017 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2873756)
Time attack globally is a pretty extreme sport, there's very few series that get you involved with minimal cost. OTA and the SCCA solo are two off the top of my head. WTAC, GTA, etc all get pretty wild.

OTA iPAX scoring is designed to take the car out of the equation and make it a drivers challenge. Other series make it more of a combination of builder and driver.

True and that's why I'm excited to join!

sjd 03-18-2017 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2865279)
I can finally do this series this year! Wooooooooooohoooooooo!

It's been a long time coming!

Did you put a roll bar in your car?

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 2873524)
Don't worry, I'll do it for you....

CSCS' ruleset is an absolute joke for time attack. There is way too much of a divide within each class, and it borders on "pay to win" like its a mobile phone game with in-app purchases. It is more about the popularity and showing off of cars rather than anything else.

Agreed.

v1beeee 03-19-2017 08:41 PM

Is the school beginner friendly?

I've done a couple of open lapping events at Cayuga, but some tuition would be great!

Frost 03-20-2017 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjd (Post 2874724)
Did you put a roll bar in your car?

About to, once the salt and snow clears, it's going in. The bar is just sitting at Dave's Garage in Oakville waiting for me.

Weather permitting, it might be going in the same time I'm attending the open house on the 1st!

wparsons 03-20-2017 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1beeee (Post 2875352)
Is the school beginner friendly?

I've done a couple of open lapping events at Cayuga, but some tuition would be great!

The DDT school is VERY beginner friendly. There's typically three run groups ranging from "never seen a track" up to "seasoned competitor, want a refresher and tips". The GP track school is better if you've at least done a previous school or some lapping days.

All you need is a safe car and desire to learn!

n0thing 03-20-2017 04:53 PM

How much for just the CTMP GP school on June 24?

Frost 03-20-2017 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0thing (Post 2875908)
How much for just the CTMP GP school on June 24?

I believe it's $350 at the Open House on April 1st (at JRP's Mississauga store) or $380 after the Open House.

It's extremely good value given what you're getting (Grand Prix track, full instruction, etc.).

Frost 03-20-2017 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1beeee (Post 2875352)
Is the school beginner friendly?

I've done a couple of open lapping events at Cayuga, but some tuition would be great!

As per what Wparsons said, it's EXTREMELY beginner friendly. While I haven't attended the class in person, I've attended OTA run events and they run a bloody tight and well oiled machine.

I was also bitterly disappointed last year when I couldn't attend due to rule changes about roll bars for convertibles but that just shows to tell you how badly I wanted to go.

icybrzzz 03-20-2017 07:12 PM

Are DOT motorcycle helmets allowed for the OTA school? Or does it have to be a Sports Automotive snell rated helmet?

v1beeee 03-20-2017 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 2875782)
The DDT school is VERY beginner friendly. There's typically three run groups ranging from "never seen a track" up to "seasoned competitor, want a refresher and tips". The GP track school is better if you've at least done a previous school or some lapping days.

All you need is a safe car and desire to learn!

Just to clarify, the GP School is June 24th,right? On the website, it says its May 13th.

Frost 03-20-2017 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1beeee (Post 2876116)
Just to clarify, the GP School is June 24th,right? On the website, it says its May 13th.

Which website please? PM me a link.

From OTA's forum, the GP track school is indeed on June 24th ($350 for early bird, $380 after).

Sauce: http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=33937

v1beeee 03-20-2017 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2876131)
Which website please? PM me a link.

From OTA's forum, the GP track school is indeed on June 24th ($350 for early bird, $380 after).

Sauce: http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=33937


http://time-attack.ca/events/ on the OTA Website. Thanks for clarifying though!

Frost 03-20-2017 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1beeee (Post 2876148)
http://time-attack.ca/events/ on the OTA Website. Thanks for clarifying though!

@wparsons - please confirm? The website does say GP course on the May 13th date but I'm 99% sure its supposed to be DDT and NOT GP.

wparsons 03-21-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1beeee (Post 2876116)
Just to clarify, the GP School is June 24th,right? On the website, it says its May 13th.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2876154)
@wparsons - please confirm? The website does say GP course on the May 13th date but I'm 99% sure its supposed to be DDT and NOT GP.

Yeah, the description on msreg (and time-attack.ca since it was copied there) is wrong for the May 13th school.

May 13th is the DDT and requires zero experience.

June 24th is the GP track and ideally you'll have at least one previous lapping day or school under your belt.

Sorry guys, working on it being corrected now!

wparsons 03-21-2017 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frost (Post 2875934)
I believe it's $350 at the Open House on April 1st (at JRP's Mississauga store) or $380 after the Open House.

It's extremely good value given what you're getting (Grand Prix track, full instruction, etc.).

Just confirming those prices are correct! There's also discounts from JRP at the open house, and there will be lots of people around to bench race with.

wparsons 03-21-2017 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icybrzzz (Post 2875995)
Are DOT motorcycle helmets allowed for the OTA school? Or does it have to be a Sports Automotive snell rated helmet?

DOT only, no, but if it carries a Snell M rating you're good to go. I'm about 85% sure that 2005 helmets are still good for this year, but confirming today. If I don't confirm and you're looking for an answer just PM/quote/mention me and I'll remember :D

wparsons 03-21-2017 04:16 PM

Confirmed, 2005 Snell and SFI helmets are good for this year. You only need a Snell SA in a car with a rollcage since it's rated for multiple impacts in a crash (like your head hitting the cage multiple times).

n0thing 03-21-2017 06:06 PM

does this helmet pass?


https://fortnine.ca/en/bell-qualifier-momentum-helmet

Frost 03-21-2017 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0thing (Post 2876739)

It looks like strictly a DOT helmet? Therefore, no.

You're looking for M or S or SA rating.

Are you planning on getting a bike or are on one?

This helmet has a M rating which would be good enough for the school and is only $20 more:
https://fortnine.ca/en/hjc-cl-17-helmet

Or this: https://fortnine.ca/en/hjc-cl-17-streamline-helmet

Remember, look at the description and look for Snell M rating at least. DOT doesn't cover it.


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