Less than 100 kms and I already need a new windshield...
 

So I picked up my Yellow BRZ today and some ass hat decided to go speeding by me at least 30 over the limit kicked up a rock and wham! Right on my windshield.
I heard it and couldn't see a chip but then when I got home it was a good hit just below the roof line.

Okay I was upset but I will get it filled, so I park in the garage get in my SUV with the fam and head to do some errands and pick up a chip repair kit. Well by the time we got back the chip had already started cracking down the windshield a good 8 inches or so...anyways I'm pissed... it sucks. Time for a new windshield already....:(

Sorry to hear that.. I've noticed also because the engines revving high every fan boi in his twenties sports cars always thinks you want to drag race....

Good Luck with the repair.

Just so . . . but in my neighborhood it's more like grown men in pickups or bread vans . . . WTF?

Weep not, you're getting a shiny new windshield out of it. Just get a reputable installer, not like the one I had who couldn't figure out how to undo the rearview mirror, so he broke it off, then slathered that black sealing goop on it and remounted it to the new windshield. Every hot day I would find the rearview dangling by its wire like a pendulum.

:paddle:

That really sucks. At least it wasn't your roof though.

This ^

I have a chip in my window with a small crack i've just been waiting for it to crack enough to get it replaced. Its low enough that unless your looking for it you would not even see it.

Sucks, but I am in the same camp. I got a chip on my window within the first 1,000 km. What can I say, the car has some fragile components to save weight :iono:.

I have taken 100s of hits from small pebbles to nuts bolts and rocks that looked like the Deathstar while headed for me at high velocity and not a chip in sight. Now my bumper, hood, front fenders, rear quarters and somehow my trunk lid have not fared as well as my windshield.

I'm on my third windshield. I now back waaaaay off tractor trailers and dump trucks, and screw 'em if it pisses off the people behind me. I also take immediate evasive action if the vehicle in front of me hits gravel on the road. The rake of this windshield puts it right where the rocks from trucks like to fly.

Had the car for less than 2 weeks, when a heavy duty gmc truck sprayed a rock at me from the passing lane. Did not see it hit but heard it and thought it hit the body, kept going. 30km later, while passing some twisty, bumpy road, another bang and a crack ran 3 feet across the windshield. Insurance covered it with a 100 deductible and had it replaced at the nearest auto glass place. Two older guys did it, each had spent 20 years doing glass at a Ford dealer. They really liked the car and did a nice professional job.

I am going to have my windshield replacement for the first time and i am little bit confused from where i can get the right glass for my car. Any suggestions on it please share ??

Don't get it at that place you linked. Those guys suck ass. Biggest pieces of shit in the glass industry.

Yes, that's true. It is quite fragile. I have also a chip and the car has not driven a lot. Well you cannot have everything ... right?

Windshields are one of the most regulated parts of a car. It can not be lighter or more "fragile" then any other car. It is however lower and larger than many which exposes it to more hazards and may slightly increase the risk of damage. Glass chips, and if it happened after 100 miles or a 100,000,000 it is more the shape, velocity and angle of impact of the object that causes it than the windshield itself.

Soft paint and fragile glass. Piece of crap... :bellyroll:

For the 500th time the paint isn't too "soft" it is too HARD!

We actually want softer paint.

And yes I know you were being sarcastic.

that's what she didn't say.

I don't think it was bad luck or because of the car height etc. You can also check here:

http://www.agc-automotive.com/en/our...eight-glazing/

It says clearly that they are working with original equipment manufacturers.

How does the clarity of the replacement windshields compare to original? I've been annoyed by the fine scratches I've had since day 1.

That is the least amount of actual information I have ever seen on a website.
Doesn't matter if they make it thinner it still has to meet all the requirements. The ability to withstand impacts is one of them.

I think you are confusing this with the requirement a cracked windshield to not fall apart. This can be done by placing a thin sheet of clear plastic that holds the two tempered glass layers together. This layer prevents you also from getting a lap full of glass when a rock hits your windshield. As far this requirement is satisfied, I don't think they have other regulations. I could be wrong, but I would expect to point some source of your statement.

OK. Here. It isn't some glass company's marketing website with a vague statement about working with the car companies.

There are no less than 6 impact tests that MUST be passed. They can make it as thin and light as they want it still has to pass the tests to be approved. I am fully aware of all the requirements and not confused about anything. This is the sort of shit I have done for a living for the last 30 years.
This is not some theory that I made up it is a legal requirement. Basing your theory on the fact that a couple of guys got chips early in their ownership is ridiculous.

http://www.interautoglass.org/conten...NSI_Z26_11.pdf

You are looking pissed off. You could just provide the document and it would be fine with me. At least we know now that some car glass companies have the option to make a windshield as thin and light as possible with the restriction to pass some tests.

Safety glass used when making patio doors and safety glass used when making windshields have a plastic insert.

Do you think they would have the same safety requirements?

Windshield standards and low quality windshields are not mutually exclusive.

Good to know; however, I thought the glass on the BRZ was not laminated (much like the Miata), which would make it more prone to chipping. In either case, point taken. Low car with lots of glass is going to be exposed to more debris.

The lamination is between the sections of glass so would not prevent chipping anyway.

Wait, what?

Miata glass is laminated, all car windshields are (well, in the past maybe 50 years or so at least).

At least we don't have exploding sunroofs like some other cars are having issues with...

In 2011 the governments around the world agreed to reduce the amount of VOCs (volatile organic compounds) in paint. Heavy restrictions were placed on what chemicals could be used by the automotive industry.
Unfortunately many of those chemicals were what made the paint strong yet resilient. The application processes in use were not suitable for the new chemistry and we ended up with hard, brittle, coatings that chip easily especially with small impact surface areas.

To visualize what happened just paint a pool ball and a tennis ball and drop each. The paint on the pool ball will chip since it can not flex. The tennis ball paint will remain fine. The same thing applies to the paint itself. If it can flex a bit it will resist chipping if it can not then there is a problem. Putting more or harder paint on will not eliminate the problem but actually makes it worse.

The good news is that the paint application technology has now caught up to the new chemistry and as the plants update their equipment we will see a big improvement in the durability of the finish. The Corvette assembly plant in Bowling Green is shutting down for a bit to change their whole paint system over to the new tech even though what they had was only from 2003. I suspect that the Subaru plant making the Twins may have been a bit behind the curve in the equipment updates.

[pedantic]Technically, the property at play here is not hardness, it's toughness.[/pedantic]

Exactly.
The actual article I read (in a trade magazine made out of real paper) was about 30 pages long and went into much more detail about the results of the changes. If I recall toughness was mentioned many times.

Still, standards don't mean quality, they just establish a baseline.

I also find it hard to believe that your windshield has no pitting. I have several pits in the windshield but so far minimal paint chipping at <7k miles.

No pitting and many chips. Windshields are a safety device and not open to materials below the standards.

I think it comes down to the conditions in which we spend most of the time operating our vehicles. I have a crapload of little pits in my windshield but I daily my car in heavy traffic and often end up stuck behind a truck or trailer that looks like it had just been dug out of a swamp.

I rarely hear windshield strikes when I'm moving at higher speeds along the open highway.

This ^. We have windshield at are barely 5 feet off the ground. They take some shit.

But they are open to materials above those standards. For example, a Bugatti windshield might have higher clarity and resistance to pitting than the windshield on a Subaru.

yes that I agree to. It is the often repeated statement that the glass in the Subaru's is somehow substandard, light or "cheap" that I object to. Of course there can be better but that doesn't change the fact there is a minimum requirement. The thought that every car on the road has better glass is mistaken.

Looks like you, me, and ultra will have to share that most pedantic poster of the thread award. :D

Neat, wasn't aware of the issues moving away from VOC paints caused. I know it caused issues with paint adhesion, like on all those white trucks that the paint came off in sheets. I do know that the paint on my car is both too soft and too hard, chipping from rocks and very easily scratching if it's so much as breathed on. BMW and Mercedes I know have some really tough paint scratch resistance wise, don't know about chipping though.

No way I'm sharing that one.

'Quality' pertains to variation in measured properties of a manufactured product. It has nothing to do with the value of those properties. For instance, a Big Mac is a high quality product because it looks and tastes exactly the same no matter where you get one.

http://www.multiplemayhemmamma.com/w...ith-trophy.jpg

Actually the main reason why people would know is when local governments start adopting this. I knew about the regulations long ago because California already had banned VOC paints and switched to waterborne paints.

A lot of car guys complain about cars being painted in California because they've adopted similar standards to what major OEMs have agreed to, and it shows up as "inferior" paint if you talk to enough body shop guys. Many are simply because of inconsistent product deployment from the manufacturer, causing teething problems in the paint shops.

https://www.sema.org/sema-enews/2012...-auto-industry

The longer this is in place, the better the paint quality will be.