Release series 1.0, is it a good deal?
 

Hey all,



Looking to get back into a FRS and found a release series 1.0 nearby for 19.9. Tried to talk them down to 18.5 because it is missing the lip spoiler, but was told they will replace the part (which is 2k +) and keep the car at 19.9. If I put a deposit on the car they will get the part replaced ASAP so I can pick it up. I plan to go look at the car, but it is 100 miles away so I'm trying to decide if 19.9 is a good deal. A quick search on cars.com show the price of the car anywhere from 17k private sale to 25k.



To me, 19.9k looks like the average. What do you all think? Carfax looks clean even though the salesman disclosed that they do sell a lot of manufacturer's buybacks. Sounds shady, but whatever. Carfax says clean title, no accidents, and only oil changes needed to be done.



I'm also cross shopping a club spec NC Miata with a hard top for the same money and same MY.

They don't understand the cost of the original splitter most likely and are just saying that to get you in the door.


You have to make the decision if it is worth it to you, but there are a ton of good deals out there. You didn't mention vehicle mileage but I'd expect low teens in the mileage for that price.


It is also regional specific, so to get a good deal sometimes you have to be willing to travel.

Sorry, yeah, 13k miles. I was on the phone with them. I said "I called toyota and they told me the splitter is 2k before tax and installation."

Does the splitter come pre-painted or will it need to be sprayed?

Also, there arent too many out there right now...

Sounds fair, a know some regular FRS and BRZ prices are lower, but this was a special edition and worth it just for the color and quad tip exhaust, upgraded interior and body kit.

If you're stuck on an RS 1.0 then that is definitely a decision to make. Recently there was one up for sale with the whole bodykit removed that was being discussed on the forum and a lot of good information was passed along.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2849298

i don't see anything special about the RS 1.0 series. Eventually you will want to fix it up and do a different look. IMO I would just get a "regular" frs and fix it even better. "Built not bought". Then again, If you want to feel special, then at any price it'll be worth it.

Wow..... I mean it comes with special headlights and interior appointments as well, lol. Starting with the best base to begin with is always a good option.

I wont have the money to fix it up for several years so buying something with some of that stuff done already is a plus. The reason I ask if it is a good deal is this: we all want the best deal possible when buying a car.

Um, it's a unique color that you won't find on any other 86 in the States.

That alone makes it special, don't you think?

ahh I see.. well with 13k miles IMO for 19.9k is worth it. maybe you can bargain a little haha. make sure to do a good inspection and it has all the OEM RS 1.0 parts.

well its not like you can't do a wrap or customized paint?

So you think buying a base FRS and then adding thousands of dollars in parts (headlights, seats, push start) along with a complete custom paint job is the better route to take?

After all that you would have over 10k dumped into the car and that's not including any kind of performance modifications. Not everyone has that kind of money to burn on a relatively new car.

I would take the NC Miata Club Edition over the RS 1.0 if it is in similar condition/mileage and comes with a power hardtop and Bilstein shocks, but then I'm not really a fan of steering wheel controls.

well here, lemme help you out.

RS 1.0 - Stock $19 - $21k w/headlights, seats etc..
Base Frs - roughly $13k - $16k (depends on where you buy)


With the additional $4k-$6k you can get a better lip kit painted, rims, headlights, or save it for future mod. You don't HAVE to dump 10k in a year. It can be a total of 3-5 years and surely you will have a better looking car than the RS 1.0 series.


All I'm saying is IMO I would rather self mod a car rather than buying a packaged car knowing I will mod it later in the future. Also what are the chances of someone owning a FRS/BRZ not modifying it?

Your argument is groundless. Just. Stop. You're not even touching the things like dual climate control and the unique exhaust etc.


On another view you could buy a genuine RS with a unique color and sell the bodykit parts for a decent chunk of change and then you're not out any money when you modify to "better looking" parts. Oh, and you STILL have the color and interior appointments. If you don't see the value in certain versions ok, but what you're saying has no grounding.


You say you bought a 2017 86, why didn't you just buy a 2013 and modify it better instead of spending the money on a new car? - Same argument....basically.

I will be test driving it this weekend to see if I fit well. I like that the FRS has some creature comforts, space, and adjustability. But yeah, similar mileage.

Lets all just chill, I see what Clee is saying. Building your own FRS up can be rewarding. The 1.0 is not for everyone. Honestly, I wish it werent yellow, but otherwise she is a looker.

You are not going to find a clean title FRS with low mileage for 13k, I promise.

Also, your math is way off.

Complete paint job - 6k minimum
OEM 86 headlights - 1k
OEM push-start/climate control - 1k
Seats - 800
TRD wheel - 200

Roughly 9k, and that's being conservative and not counting exhaust, or lip kits.

If you want a yellow 86, it would be silly not to buy a clean RS 1.0 if you can find one. If you don't like the yellow I wouldn't recommend buying the car.

Still deciding on the color, honestly. It pops in certain light.

I read in this thread that full color paint jobs are easy enough......:lol:

Haha, thanks. And thanks for all the info everyone!

Guess it depends on what you mean by low mileage.

A 2013 base FRS in Very Good Condition and 50,000 miles on it shows in KBB as $13.6K Private Sale. One with 25,000 miles on it shows at $15.4K.

Even a 100 to 10,000 mile car in Excellent condition only shows as high as $16,662.

Right in the range @Clee is talking about.

There is a difference between KBB and actual market value. If you can find a clean FRS with less than 50k on the clock for 13k I would be very surprised.

OEM 86 headlights - 1k EACH

The price alone of the headlights pretty much makes it worth buying the RS. Unless OP wants to go the route of "upgrading" headlights to winjets, but then there is the quality difference of OEM vs aftermarket.

This sounds like a pretty decent deal to me. OP - if you test drive it and then have a mechanic look at it and everything checks out, I think you should pull the trigger!

Quick Autotrader search....

I said clean, not riced. :bellyroll:


I would also argue that $13,991 is closer to 14k, but I will admit that I was wrong.

Didn't see the wing...so point @funwheeldrive on that one.

I'm also going on that if this is the published price I can easily get it for under $13K.

You need to rethink why I bought the 2017 86 BASE model and not the USD TRD model. (Since you seem slow, USD TRD comes with the TRD RIMS for extra $1k etc..) Which makes it an irrelevant argument.
You also basically made my point in where "why buy the RS AND sell its part for other aftermarket parts?" C'mon man.
And why are you guys so up beat on "push start, dual climate control, etc?" There's a key.. Put it in 😂

Why would you buy the "TRD" oem parts when you can make your own build???

The only TRD specific part I listed was the steering wheel. Aftermarket steering wheels are probably just as expensive.

Isn't the RS 1.0 unique to the US market only? From memory even the TRD body kit is unique and different to the regular JDM one.

Assuming you love the color then (to me) the RS 1.0 is a no brainer considering the OP is not looking to modify in the short term, and if they decide to keep it clean and stock long term, then the car will likely hold its value exceedingly well over the years.

I'm almost willing to gamble that they would get most (if not all) their money back a few years down the line, if selling it to roll into a new car.

I'm pretty sure the body kit is the same that's on the black line edition down there. I might be wrong though...

USDM RS1.0 TRD and the australian Blackline kits are the same down to the side vents.
They're different from the JDM TRD one.

Ill be going there tomorrow afternoon to check it out and perform a pre-purchase inspection.

I seem slow...... got it. You don't understand, its okay.

Some people usually the younger folks imo only care about how the car looks from the outside. Nothing wrong with that just different generation / culture.

I for one would never buy the base model as it is to me a decontent car deviating from the original intended design. For example to me the manual HVAC center console looks like an afterthought, as opposed to cars like old Hondas where controls are usually well integrated regardless of trim level.

Yeah, but there is a difference between modifying your car with quality aftermarket parts and using cheap knock offs. A lot of younger people are quick to buy parts only to realize that they don't look good up close, or start falling apart after a couple months.

A lot of used 86s on the market will have replica wheels, tacky wings, and be covered in plastidip.

I'm a sucker for quality parts especially coming from the factory.

RS 1.0 is quite rice and I have no idea what sort of options we got here with the NC but something like this yellow one would be very nice.

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how'd it go?