Finally got my FRS!
 

After toying around dealer to dealer, i finally got my car. :) Pretty low quality picture and i'll take better ones tomorrow but I am so excited!

Glad to be a part of the community. :happyanim:

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Contratulations! We'll be here to ease your worry when you start to notice all the normal noises.

Enjoy!

The car makes some weird noises around 90 MPH ;) kidding but for sure, thanks!

Congrats!

thank you so much, first car and im more than excited. :cheers:

CONGRATULATIONS and WELCOME to ...... The Forum ......:clap:

* read the manual (the WHOLE thing)

* take caution, driving on snowy/icy roads, with summer tires

* use only premium hi test gas

* stay back from parking stops

* follow the maintenance manual that came with the car

There ya go ........ :burnrubber:


humfrz

Thank you soo much!

A question about the premium gas thing --
my dad is a bit on the cheaper side and is going to insist on putting normal fuel in it (we already do this for our 2007 Honda Odyssey Touring that is meant to heave premium in it)

Will it hurt it to go back and forth? it's hard to reason with him

It's important to use hi test gas because of the relatively high compression ratio. It will run on mid grade but the engine will pull timing, thus less power.

The manual says use premium (hi-test) only, and that's what it says on the filler cap.

Ask your dad, back when he might have had a 1957 Chevrolet, with a 283 cu in engine, with 2 4 barrel carburetors, if he would have used tractor gas (regular) in it ..... ??

Or, if he would have turned the distributor 3 degrees counterclockwise on his old stovebolt blue flame six.

If that don't convince him ....... tell him ol humfrz said that this engine isn't his dad's old Ford flathead V-8 ...... that would burn anything that would pour into the gas tank.

Yep, old men can be hard to reason with fer sure ...... if the above don't work ....... just tell him that ol humfrz, from the forum, said just to use premium all the time...... :D


humfrz

Don't do it. Like @humfrz said, this engine is designed/tuned for 93 octane. It'll run on California 91 but it pulls timing hard to manage the knock.

It's a terrible idea. Don't do it.

welcome !!!!! This guy Tcoat will be at your service soon. LOL

Yep, if your dad doesn't come around about using hi test gas, ol @Tcoat will :slap: him into submission ..... :D


humfrz

Welcome!

If your enthusiasm is any indicator, you are going to enjoy this car. =D

When questions like this come up it's always important to inform yourself on the subject. While it is good to understand that your particular car needs this specific octane rating it might help to also know why any car needs a higher octane rating. I realize it takes time to learn these things but the internet makes all this much easier.

I suggest watching these youtube videos as they will explain in detail octane ratings and why higher octane gas would be needed. Notice on the last video he doesn't suggest to use higher octane unless the car manufacturer specifically states so.

Octane Rating - Explained
Is Premium Fuel Worth It? Premium vs Regular - 5 Vehicles Tested
Should I use hi octane premium petrol, and what is octane rating?


The last guy comes off as a bit abrasive but he is definitely light on the BS. I wouldn't put Premium or High Octane fuel in anything unless it was absolutely necessary due to the high cost. Driving high compression vehicles will most likely always require a higher octane though.

There is more information out there on the subject if you are interested but unless your Dad is footing the bill for your car and/or gas I would leave this decision up to you. If he is footing the bill, I'd show him your findings and then do exactly as he says. :iono:

Congrats and welcome!

^This. 91 octane is bad enough. Don't do 87. This is not a heavy ass minivan with a big 3.5L V6 that guzzles gas. It's a small lightweight car with a small 4 cylinder engine. It's really not that expensive to use 93 octane. And if you use 87 octane on a regular basis you may end up with costly repairs that will greatly exceed whatever little money you saved at the pump.

Also I'm pretty sure your Honda Odyssey does not take premium fuel so using 87 octane for that is correct.

Also this is your car so wouldn't you be filling up the tank anyway? How would he know what gas you are using?

Really just want to drive home the "Do not use anything lower than 91" message here.


If you use low octane gas... http://www.memecreator.org/static/im...es/3903148.jpg

16 posts in and still no Tcoat..

OK OK


Geeeez


I figured everybody had it under control.


Manual says 93 recommended, minimum 91 REQUIRED.


Volt, tell the old fogey that it must have a minimum of 91 or it could die.

Another one bites the dust. :bellyroll:

Race gas or GTFO.

Thank you all for the replies. I'll make sure the message is put across clear that no lower octane fuel goes in the car.

Sometimes my dad comes around and checks our vehicles out, and out of habit If i wasn't around he might take the car out and throw normal gas in it which was my concern.

If he does it a couple of times it won't hurt a thing. It isn't going to blow up because it had a half tank of 87 run through it. Just don't run regular in it all the time and all will be good.

I have this same argument with my father, it is not some gas company conspiracy ;)

This motor is a high compression motor and needs the extra octane to avoid pre-detonation. The computer will pull as much timing as possible when using less than required octane gas, as a result gas mileage goes down and you may have additional wear on the engine if the computer cannot pull enough timing to compensate.

It's almost more cost efficient to use the correct gas maximizing MPG and engine life.....appeal to your father's economic side and he won't argue the highest octane you have available in your state as stipulated right in the owner's manual (another appeal to your father, "Look, the guys that built the car state this").

Good luck in your debate :D

One of the most common misconceptions about premium gas in a nut shell! People presume since it cost more then the station is making more from it. That is not even close to the reality. It costs more because it is more expensive to make. There are many stations that don't even want to carry it because there is a smaller profit margin in it than regular. Gas stations make their money by selling volume not by huge markups and many just do not sell enough premium to get that volume. On the other hand if they don't have it then they lose customers that may have more than one vehicle and use both so they are sort of stuck with it.

Just say "Dad, my car, my rules". He should respect that....

Mine has had 87 in it twice. Very first full tank (done by dealer, without me realizing) and during the Colonial Pipeline induced fuel shortage. So far she hasn't turned wheels up in the morning.

As @Tcoat said, just don't do it regularly and if it does happen just dilute it (strengthen it?) by filling the tank at half full the next couple of trips.

don't buy a sports car if you can't afford the gas..or the maintenance

Oh, hell, there is nothing special about this car with respect to maintenance. It gets expensive when you start tracking and modding it.

Leave it alone and it's a great little "relatively" inexpensive go kart.

It's not even an affording thing, my dad just prefers to save money. And as to maintenance I have bumper to bumper provided by Toyota due to us financing through Toyota about 10 years ago. The bumper to bumper last a handful of years, I forgot the exact package.

ANYWAYSSSS :burnrubber:

We talked and he was more than happy to fuel it with premium. Most fuels around here are like 93 Octane I believe. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Well, now .......there ya go.

I suggest you NOT punch and hold that button the console, that talks to the nannies, unless you are in a large cow pasture ..... with no trees or cows .....;)


humfrz

:cheers: