Where does the BRZ fit in your "sports car progression?"
 

Hello,

Something to ponder while I wait for delivery of my car.

I was thinking about a video I saw from Matt of "Obsessed Garage" / Rennlist who has shared his "sports car progression" - from Honda civics to S2000s to BMW M3s and eventually to a 911 GT3 and others.

The thing that struck me was that it seems like there was always a "plan" or at least overarching theme to keep "upgrading" with each move, with an eventual plan for a serious sports car (GT3) and separate high performance daily driver.

In my case, the only cars I've ever owned have been non performance cars (Jeep Cherokee and Corolla - all automatic) but I have always liked sports cars.

I'm in a position right now where I can finally pull the trigger on a BRZ and super stoked about the upgraded package / brakes and dampers, slight changes with the 2017 refresh. I expect that it will be a tremendous upgrade compared to my current car. I probably could have waited a few years and moved in the direction of a Cayman or even 911 in more, but I feel like that would be too much of a leap from my previous car experience - not to mention very, very expensive. Plus I am hoping the BRZ will be a good car to learn about "driving" - manual, rear wheel, etc. Maybe get into autocross one day. Would love to take a driving class like the BMW or Porsche ones I have come across online.

So my questions to you are:

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
2.) What are your eventual goals?
3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?

I don't know. BRZ is kind of my first sport car which I am gonna use for practice. Just don't want to mess up with expensive car.

the only other sports car ive owned is a 95 mustang. the crazy thing is that in the intervening 20 years my 15 brz, as a little 4 banger has the same quarter mile time as that old v8, and with the alcantara seats, seat heaters, led lights and nav system (even though it kind of sucks) its ahead of that mustang in every conceivable performance or comfort or aesthetic metric.

some of your question involves being able to afford to 'progress' in sports cars as well, so without forseeing becoming really rich in the future and stepping into a cayman or a shelby mustang or m2 or something like that i'm going to be pretty content having a brz as a second car for a very long time.

This is what I think is really, really cool. I'm amazed by how much cars have improved over the years. I see so much written about how the BRZ is "too expensive" - and sure, I'd love if it were priced even less, and I'm sure you could debate value vs. other cars on the market, especially "per horsepower", but this car seems pretty special from what I can tell.

I was looking at old pictures of 997 interiors the other day and realized how much the BRZ interior looks like the 997 interior. In fact that was one of the first thoughts I had when I saw the BRZ interior - reminded me of the 997. Makes me wonder if they actually purposefully used that as a benchmark.

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Interesting question. My goal has been to have as many "fun" cars as I can afford. When I was young, I purchased my first sports car - a 1974 Triumph Spitfire. I bought it new when I was 20 years old. I loved that British sports car. Then I bought a 1976 Fiat X 1/9. Also new. It was Italian, mid engined, targa topped - and not that reliable. I then got married, had kids, etc. My next sports car was a 2002 Camaro 35th anniversary edition. Big old American iron. Then I bought a Chrysler Crossfire - really a Mercedes SLK reskinned. It was a great road trip car for my wife and I. After that, I have finally purchased a Japanese sports car - my Firestorm Red FR-S. This car reminds me alot of my first sports car - the old Triumph. I look out the windshield and see the sheet metal over the front wheels just like in the Triumph. I also sit as low as I did in that wonderful old British go-cart. I've had two seat convertibles, two seat hardtops, four seaters, you name it....this little FR-S is just as much fun as all the rest of them. Buy the toys when you can, before you get married and have the kids. Then wait for more fun after the kids move out and are on their own. I'm the happiest I've ever been, and more importantly, my wife loves the car too. Can't wait to get it out on The Tail Of The Dragon!

Very cool. Do you have any pictures of those cars?

1. 90s hondas, nissans and second toyota. I've had too many mates get burned from Euro models - they are not keepers.
2. I've also learned that big power is not the end game and learned to appreciate the dynamics of a vehicle. My goals are to drive different cars and different circuits. I've given up the expensive pursuit of time improvements and just go by feels.
3. Its a great fit anywhere on the cost curve. At the low end it's a great first car (better once they depreciate a bit more), then after that great as a fun car. Then if you got real money leave the luxury car at home and have no qualms full racing it. Stack it and get another. Mod the crap out of it. Then get another and try something else. I rekon if I had all the money in the world this car would still be in my garage. Like the dude above, my goals is liek Jay Leno. More cars, more variety, appreciate all philosophies and have fun trying them out. I'm not about lap times in the grand scheme - but chasing them is fun within reason.

Would you say its the most fun car you've owned?

It would be a close tie between my eg civic (more sentimental reasons) and nb mx5 (pure dynamics - but to be honest didn't actualyl own that). The 86 is not far behind. But the reason not going the nb/nd mx5 was because firstly the nd costs a lot more (about $7k usd more in aussie land vs the gts) and also I really need a roof.

Oh! This is actually a very fun topic!

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
2002 Subaru WRX
2007 BMW 335i
2015 Toyota 86

2.) What are your eventual goals?
The goal is too keep this one running as long as possible like Mr.Tsuchiya.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
It's the car that I always wanted. A RWD sports car that was down to the basics and balanced. A car I could buy brand new, since most car that interest me are all oldies now. The whole back to the 90's vibe is just my thing. I love the old school clock guys.

Will I ever add an additional sports car? Possibly...I'm always on the hunt for a clean RX-7/NSX.

Maybe a second generation 86 if they continue production? Who knows.

The point it....this 86 is staying with me forever <3

Dude, I feel the exact same way. First car was an 84 El Camino. Drove it all through high school and college. I still love that car, but the modern features of my 15 limited blow that thing out of the water. Dual climate control? WTF? The Camino didn't even have air conditioning. The BRZ is like 12 steps up from that thing. I too will be driving it for a very long time.

I own a Scion, not a BRZ but this topic is interesting anyway.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?


Car progression in total has been:
EG Civic coupe >>> Z32 300ZX >>> Golf mk6 TDI >>> 1.8 Miata >>> FR-S
I still own the Z, the Miata, and the FR-S.

2.) What are your eventual goals?


Dream car is a self-built Shelby Cobra kit. I also know once I build that car, it is never getting sold so I think I'll hold off for a while and do it when I'm old. Maybe build it with my kids if I ever have any. Before that, I have a car bucket list of ones I'd like to experience. S2000, Fiata Abarth and Z06 are all happening at some point and thankfully, depreciation will make those very manageable. I actually almost bought a C5Z instead of the 86.


If they ever put a manual in the Alfa 4c, that would be another one. Ultimate goal before the cobra is I'd like to own something like a first gen Viper, R8, Ferrari 360, or Murceilago since I think I could actually swing one used. I feel like everyone should own a German or Italian supercar at some point in their life even if it's 20-30 years old and obsolete, and of course, bonus points if one of the cars you had on a poster on your bedroom wall as a child ends up parked in your garage later on.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
I'm dailying it right now. The TDI buyback happened so I needed something else and the 86's heavy depreciation meant I could have something fun like that for the price of a new civic. I always liked them and I missed dailying the Z so a sports car was the natural choice. My bank account says get a Chevy SS or a Corvette but my common sense side says get some frugal fun in the form of an 86 and try to pay off the house before I turn 30. When the mortgage is small to non-existent because I didn't blow all my money on having the fastest, nicest cars all the time, one of those big goal cars can actually happen.

Not so much a progression as a ramble down the highway.
 

1.) What has been your sports car progression?

Not so much as a progression, as moving on to fun cars (or that I thought would be fun) that caught my attention. The following list omits several cars that nobody would ever consider "sports" (such as a 1969 Rambler American with 3 on the column).

- 1961 Ford Thunderbird (my first car)
- 1968 Ford Cortina GT (a very fun car)
- 1976 Ford Mustang II (ugh, and my last Ford) :bonk:
- 1980 Honda Accord (very sporty compared to the Mustang II)
- 1985 Nissan Maxima
- 1989 RX-7 (finally a real sports car)
- 1991 Miata (Eventually supercharged)
- 1995 Miata
- 1997 Jaguar XK8 Coupe (good looking and fast, but it had issues)
- 1999 Miata (the Jag's little brother)
- 2004 RX-8
- 2007 MX-5 PRHT
- 2015 Subaru Outback 3.6 (I needed a practical vehicle)
- 2017 BRZ with PP (the Outback's little out-of-control brother) :happyanim:

2.) What are your eventual goals?

Just to have a fun car available.


3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?

Due to where I live, the BRZ was one of only two options; the other being an MX-5. I might have bought the MX-5, but I didn't care for the dealer and I really liked dealing with the Subaru dealer. Prior to the BRZ we'd bought 4 Subbies from them, my Outback and 3 Foresters for my wife.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
1997 VT SS Commodore sedan 5.0L A/T
2001 CV8 Monaro coupe 5.7L A/T
2010 Nissan Maxima 350 sedan 3.5 CVT (took one for the family as a car was needed)
2014 BRZ A/T (MY15)

2.) What are your eventual goals?
To care after my BRZ and continue with it's OEM+ style build. Will be staying N/A, but will look to strengthen and improve all aspects as new (and proven) products continue to come out.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
Having had the pillage of riding in, driven and owned many GM V8's it feel like I've gotten the whole big heavy car with lots of power thing out of my system.

I'm having far more fun driving the snot out of my BRZ and using more of its performance (legally) than I ever really managed with all those past V8's. Ironically the BRZ is actually faster than many of those older V8's including my first 5.0L VT, the handling, safety and luxury is in another world altogether.

Cars are an expensive luxury in Australia. That Monaro back then was around $73k AUD. The BRZ was only $40k so peanuts in comparison, but I honestly feel the BRZ is my pinnacle if talking progression.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a factory FI version come out down the line. It would make my current BRZ feel even more special and make me want to keep it around for ever.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
1978 280Z owned from 1984-2013

2.) What are your eventual goals?
To keep the BRZ for a while; no near-term plans to get rid of it. It's my daily driver but I don't have a long commute. I just reached the 10k mile mark and I've had it since March '13. I've pretty much made all the modifications I wanted in its current state, so I've already reached my goal for the car itself.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
Not much of a progression, really, since I'm not willing to spend a whole lot more on a car. If anything, I'd buy something similar to replace it when the time comes, just like I bought the BRZ to replace the 280Z.

That Mazda commercial for the MX-5, you've seen it - the guy has an old Miata in college, then the economy car, then the line of family sedans and finally the new MX5 coming out of the garage - I'm that guy. A 1968 MGB-GT in the 70's, a 5-speed Civic Si, then marriage and kids, several Accords, 2 minivans, 3 suv's. Now, at age 63, my kids are grown, no more soccer tournaments, no more picking up plywood at the home center, so last spring it was the new BRZ.

I take the back roads to work and every day the car gives me pleasure.

(Full disclosure: I did test drive an MX-5 but at 6'1" my head hit the roof)

1.) What has been your sports car progression?


Well I hated driving when I first started, as an accident made me very nervous to drive...my father had to force me out to get him cigarettes from the local corner shop to get me to drive. To me, it all comes down to budget and what you can afford, so here's my progression...

1972 Vauxhall Viva
1980 Ford Cortina
1984 Ford Orion
1992 VW Scirocco (8v)
1996 VW Golf GTi
1992 Honda Accord Wagon
2008 Honda Civic Si
2014 Subaru BRZ NA
2014 Subaru BRX S/C'd

2.) What are your eventual goals?

That's a good question...but handling is number one. I lusted after the Lotus Elise for years and loved the 90's Subaru WRX. I would love to get a high end sports car, but some large wad of cash would have to drop in my lap for me to be able to afford that.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?

Now that I have a Delicious-tuned, Edelbrock Supercharged BRZ, it is hard to imagine where I go now without shelling out a lot of money. In agreement with my better half, I have to keep it for at least 8 years in exchange for the S/C...fair enough...total invested $32,500...great bang for the buck.

Going slightly off-topic...I separated them out as two cars, but it's the same car. The supercharged BRZ is not better than the NA BRZ...it's just different. Don't make the change expecting it to be better, just ensure it is what you want, though. I love the car in either form.

Long live car culture...:party0030:

Here is a picture of some of the sports cars I've had in the past. The top one is the Triumph Spitfire on a trip to San Francisco in 1975. The next one is my Fiat X1/9 in 1977 (with a very young me standing next to it). The bottom one is my wife and I on the Tail Of The Dragon with my Chrysler Crossfire in 2010.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
Bicycles- too many to enumerate.
Motorbike- 70 Yamaha DT360.
64 Pontiac LeMans. 4 years. $250. Factory 4speed 326 2bbl carb convertible. Low power high torque do everything college machine. Rust.
Motorbike- new 77 Yamaha XS400.
74 Alfa Romeo GTV2000. 7 years. The driving similarity to the twins is remarkable. Happy place for a long time. Strong clutch, leg gave up finally. Rust.
Motorbike- 83 Honda Nighthawk 650. 23 years.
84 Honda Civic S. 11 years. Excellent daily.
95 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3v6. 18 years. Took out the seats and went road tripping and bicycle hauling all over helenback to see the sights with my own apartment wherever I ended up.
Motorbike- 98 BMW K1200RS with hard luggage.
Motorbike- 03 Suzuki SV650 naked bike. Still have both of these.
13 Scion FRS.

2.) What are your eventual goals?
If you always liked the idea of having an Alfa, the twins are the closest you'll get to the classic Italian coupe in a modern car.
I'm back to my happy place. Likely for good. See progression of auto ownership duration.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
Center cross hairs.

Cool question actually
1.) What has been your sports car progression?
So my BRZ is my first true sports car I've owned. My first car was an '05 Toyota Corolla S so that definitely doesn't count and my '12 TC was "sporty" but no sports car. And an awful automatic.
2.) What are your eventual goals?
With the BRZ? OEM+ build until the warranty runs out/pay off car then probably dedicated weekend car and occasional track runs. Small turbo, cage, bucket seats, that kind of thing.
Overall though I'd like to have the BRZ or some FI RWD car (Porsche 964 Turbo/SW20 MR2 Turbo) as the weekend toy and probably a BMW 335i or WRX STi or something similar for the daily commute.
3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
Hopefully the first of many fun sports cars to come. But this is the one I plan to keep the longest.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
I wouldn't necessarily call it a progression. Let's just say headaches and smiles were roughly equal.

2.) What are your eventual goals?
Add a fun to drive sedan or SUV for family duties. Alfa and Jaguar are ticking both boxes right now with the Guilia QV, Stelvio QV, XE-R Sport, and F-Pace S. Will lease one of these and give it back after a beating. Keeping the FR-S for another 30 years.

3.) Where does the FR-S fit in this progression for you?
Learned that expensive cars eventually devalue into cheap old cars the same way cheap new cars do, but become more expensive to maintain. Running them hard costs way too much. Screw that. My FR-S is fun as hell, and will be cheap to mod and mash for the duration of my life. Unless there is some new, must have sports car experience in the future, the buck stops at 86.

240SX > Celica > few years without a coupe > FRS

..one day the LFA will be mine :p and I would love to think (or rather dream) that my FRS will be parked right next to it.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?

2014-2016: 1991 Toyota MR2 N/A
2016-Current: 2016 Subaru BRZ

2.) What are your eventual goals?

I eventually want to buy either a WRX or STI, but I hope to keep my BRZ for as long as possible. I have even played around with the thought of getting a second one or an S2000.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?

The BRZ is definitely an entry to an expensive yet fun hobby :lol:

1.) What has been your sports car progression?

This is my first sports car. Had a Scion xB previously. Never did any mods.

2.) What are your eventual goals?
In the future I plan to get a tune, headers, and wheels. Some body mods might be in store, but I'd rather go for performance first. Turbo/SC is kinda out of my budget, but I am enjoying the car how I have it currently. (Q300, drop in filter, and silicone intake tube.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?

Since it is my first sports car, I'm going to enjoy it as long as I can. I kinda like the idea of building a car rather than buying one that is already fast/good handling. Depending on what Subaru does with the BRZ in the future, I might get another one or look at what becomes of the WRX.



2017 WRB BRZ

First car of my own, ever. Never had a car to really drive, especially on my own. Except for a red golf cart for work a few years back or the occasional "drive the parents to some place".

Also going to learn stick on it.

Should be fun.

If I had to list every car I've owned that would take a while, but for street cars I consider "sports cars"' I have owned 5.

1. Progression
Lotus Elan
914
911s targa (still own)
993 coupe
Twin

2. Goals
Eat better, lose 15 lbs., retire in 3 years.

3. Fit
Fits in the garage between the water heater and the 911.:happyanim:

Well there are some very broad definitions of "sports" car here but I guess we are talking what led to the BRZ (or in my case FRS) so the very short list of what I owned that I considered vehicles as part of that progression (there were many others but they were NOT part of the love affair with cars but just transportation) to now would be:

1) 64 Chev Impala - 327 4 barrel, 160HP, 2 speed auto. Certainly a boat but once up to speed could bury the needle and was a blast to drive.

2) 66 VW Karmann Ghia - 1300ccs, 50HP (YES 50 not a typo!!!!) 4 speed stick. Not the fastest on the list by far but not "slow" either. Once upon a time these were considered to be one of the better sports cars around.

3) 66 Corvair Corsa coupe - 2.7 L flat six, 140Hp, 4 speed stick. Was my first car with a synchromesh tranny. Was a bitch the get all for carbs set just right but when you did the thing was a rocket. With the low COG the thing handled much like some of the top line sports cars of the era.

4) 64 Ford Econoline short box van - Had a 1970 351 Cleveland squeezed into the "dog house" between the seats, 220HP, 3 speed auto from a 70 Fairlane. Could lift the front end off the ground for 50 feet from a dead start. Used to eat Camaros and Mustangs for breakfast.

5) 7- Coronet R/T - 440 magnum with 4 barrel 280HP stock (remember gross vs net HP), built to about 400hp, 3 speed auto. The engine alone weighed 670 pounds! Could not drive it if roads wet at all as you would go into a spin as soon as the torque kicked in. One of the fastest cars I ever drove in a straight line but needed loads of room (and time) if you actually wanted to turn it.

6) 58 Ford Custom 300 2 door sedan - 223 six, 100HP, 3 on the tree. Fast on the take off but not a lot of top end. I understand they still use these engines (modded of course) for some sprint cars.

7) 84 Mustang GT - 5 liter 4 barrel, 180HP, 4 speed stick (might have been 5? wasn't my favorite). The Mustang boys will tell you the 5 liter was KING back then. It wasn't and I got rid of it FAST.

8) Eagle Talon TSI AWD - 2 liter turbo, 195HP, 5 speed stick. It was turned into a 650 HP drag car after I retired it. Last I heard it was still racing.

9) 03 Lancer Rally, 08 Lancer GTS, 12 Lancer GT. The 03 and 08 were great cars and I loved them. They have a bad rep that from my experience wasn't deserved. The 12 sucked balls!

What are my eventual goals? - Drive it until it falls apart or cost to much to fix. Sell it and buy something else.

Where does it fit in the progression? Sort of the end of the road for the inexpensive coupe road for me actually. If it lasts until I retire (2021) then it will be replaced with a far higher level car (Porsche, Jag, ? whatever is nice in 2021)

My 64 Impala SS had a 283, 2 barrel,2 speed. Don't know the HP, but still it went pretty good. Those are so fun to drive, like driving a recliner.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?

'Sports' and 'car' in it's most liberal interpretation here of course: '72 Impala Coupe, '76 Olympic Edition Chevelle, '79 Z28, '85 CRX, '88 Z24, '89 CRX Si, '92 Integra GSR, '98 Dakota Sport, '05 Ram, '08 Accord Coupe, '16 BRZ. Six MT's, 5 AT's.

2.) What are your eventual goals?

Cayman.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?

Under my butt for a long time.

It's my pretend Cayman. It looks amazing, winds out, sounds great, has wonderful balance, gets respectable vs rich prick attention, and makes me smile every time I drive it or even think of going out for a blast.

This car is as fun as fuck.

I don't have a planned progression. Once I decide I need to replace the BRZ, I'll see what is available in a light nimble, good handling car.

Does the BRZ really need to fit into a "progression?" I feel like it's a fine car for people of all kinds of skill levels. Basically anyone who likes driving fast or wants to learn to drive fast could be happy with a BRZ.

My BRZ came after a MkIV GTI (wanted to swap to something RWD) and before a 997 (always wanted a 911, and the 996/997 are the "underappreciated" 911s of the moment).

Someday I want a 997 GT3 :P

1) 1999 MkIV Jetta 5spd, 2008 Yaris AT, 2002 Celica GT 5spd, 2013 BRZ MT, 2016 Impreza CVT
2) AP1 S2000, and eventually Cayman (although my wife and I would both like another BRZ to be in the garage at some point)
3) This was the first car I bought for sports driving, the first car I actually modded and did my own work on, and the first car I tracked.
It taught me a lot about how fun driving can be, and how much fun it can be to modify the car to my own tastes. It also gave me a great look at what a balanced RWD car can feel like.

This is the newest car I've owned. I love it.

My first car was a 1966 Chrysler 300, then a 1986 Honda CRX SI, 2001 Honda crv, 2008 4 cylinder Mazda 6, and now my 2014 BRZ Limited.

Besides the CRX Si this is my first sports car. This car is amazing.

I've always wanted a porsche, but I think I'm just going to mod the hell out of this.

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This is my first real 'light weight' sports car.
1 main attraction for me is that it is a solid RWD (aka fun) car.
A second plus is it's the first car I've done some mods to, and there's plenty of future options here too.

For those reasons... replacing it is hard because if I stick with rwd as a criteria... others are damn pricey.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?

Lol, uhhhh... Supra 1, Supra 2, Supra 3, Supra 4, Supra 5, Supra 6, Supra 7, FRS, Supra 8, BRZ. The last 3 of which I currently still own.

2.) What are your eventual goals?

I want to get an LFA, but I'm not a baller. Yet. Just gonna go to @supra2nv's house

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?

I'm gonna end up being that guy with rare BRZ parts stored in his basement in 2045, constantly saying "I'll use these on BRZ #34". Then my grandkids will inherit it after I die and throw it all away, because they're all ungrateful pricks. Then a young budding car enthusiast will find the pile of parts in a space landfill and build a makeshift BRZ from the parts and become Space Tsuchiya.

What was the question again?

The BRZ will be my daily and this is my progression of cars

1989 Mazda B2200 (first vehicle when I got my drivers license)
1980 Mercedes 240D Daily from 1990 to 2000 though I still own it
1978 Porsche 911sc Targa row - Bought it as a play thing and still own it
2000 VW Jetta TDI - put plenty of mods to boost power and torque - replaced my 240 as my daily. Died in a head on collision with a F150
2010 VW Jetta TDI JSW - also modded for more power replaced my 2000 Jetta - Just sold it back to VW for dieselgate
2017 BRZ Limited - waiting for it to arrive. Being told March

All have been manual transmission and the BRZ will be as well

I think we are seeing a common theme here...Number three tells the story. There are so many of us who love cars and the BRZ is the first true sports car we have owned, modded and tracked... Awesome to hear!

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Very funny, I'm very close to your path of sports car progression and long-term goals with the ownership of the ZN6/ZC6. Some might think that I have been going downhill in regards to my sports car progression, however, I think it has been maturing one ownership after another.

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
2010 BMW E92 335i X-drive
2007 Subaru WRX STi
2016 Scion FR-S Release Series 2.0

2.) What are your eventual goals?
I will be keeping this car for as long as possible and enjoying it while doing so.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
Felt spoiled about owning cars with ample amount of power and AWD to sort it out, the FR-S would be a perfect car for me to own next. Had my eye on it for years now, just couldn't let go of my GDB STi. After 5 years of GDB ownership, I pulled trigger as it was the last year I can purchase a "zenki" model brand new. Honestly, I love every aspect of this car from the motives of the project all the way up to aesthetics of the design. I have no regrets.


Looking forward to continuing my journey with my ZN6 with more awesome experiences to come! :cheers:

P.S. Awesome thread topic, OP! :thumbsup:

1.) What has been your sports car progression?
1990s - DB7 Integra LS-Special (4-door Sports Sedan)
2000s - MkV Golf GTI (3-door Hot Hatch)
2010s - Zenki BRZ Limited (2-door Sports Coupe)

2.) What are your eventual goals?
Want a mint condition raw sports car designed during the golden era of the 1980s just to experience what they were like to drive such as E30 M3, NA1 NSX, BA5 Prelude, S13 240SX, AW11 MR2, 964 Carrera 2, etc.

3.) Where does the BRZ fit in this progression for you?
BRZ introduced me into the classic FR sports car layout after driving predominately FF cars thus far. Wish I could keep it forever but realistically if the car would last 10 years then I'm grateful. Driving a MR sports car sounds intriguing. Never really interested in 4WD/AWD or high output engines unless it's a Land Cruiser.