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mbrooksatl 01-18-2017 10:19 PM

Subaru BRZ with $10k in mods or Ford Focus RS?
 
If I have $10k in cash, to either put down on a Focus RS, or get a new BRZ and mod it, what should I do? I know it may be a bit biased of a forum, but wanted to get some good takes.

Cole 01-18-2017 10:27 PM

Focus ST

gramicci101 01-18-2017 10:27 PM

If two doors fits your needs, buy the BRZ, throw $1K at it to mod it a little, and put the other $9K in a mutual fund or something.

Sapphireho 01-18-2017 10:35 PM

Keep saving until you can pay cash for one or the other.

D_Thissen 01-18-2017 11:09 PM

If you have to have a BRZ, buy a used one. These things depreciate really quickly.

Summerwolf 01-18-2017 11:36 PM

10k down? Buy something fast.

Darkone 01-18-2017 11:49 PM

The Focus RS is ugly as hell and overpriced at over 40k, however it has better performance than the FRS.. but not 20k worth more performance! Your are also stuck buying the Focus brand new while you have plenty of great used options for the FRS as low as 20k for a newer FRS with low miles. So you could buy 2 used FRS for the same price as one Focus RS! Plus the FRS looks way better than the focus and the general public will think the FRS cost more than the focus....
Buy the used FRS ...enjoy and do not modify it...this is a corner carver, who cares about drag car speed. Stamp the pedal and take those corners at full throttle...lol ... keep it for 1.5 years and save your money. Then purchase a used Focus RS for 28k in the future. Rinse lather repeat...

Then go buy something super fast modify the hell out of it, waste tons of money. Then realize you dont need 700 hp and sell it. Buy another fast car and sit around worrying about the engine because all high HP cars have mechanical issues that can cause the engines or transmissions to crap out and the cost to replace is around 20k. Worry about it all the time, make big payments, waste your money. Sell it and buy another high hp car and find out it also has potential mechanical issues and then after multiple multiple years of doing this and wasting tons of money ....then come full circle and repurchase a FRS and live happily ever after.

This is what I did and you cant learn from my mistakes you can only experience the same thing ....its a learning process that we all must partake in ...this is where I am now and happy to own a FRS. :cheers:

DuMa 01-18-2017 11:55 PM

BRZ every time.

fguadamuz 01-18-2017 11:59 PM

Buy used. I regret not waiting little more to get one used for 5k less. And only if you have live with 2 doors


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krayzie 01-19-2017 12:03 AM

Focus RS is just a fast car but it doesn't even feel like a sports car with its high driving position.

weederr33 01-19-2017 12:06 AM

HOW DARE YOU!

tCsonfrs 01-19-2017 12:12 AM

RS, unless you buy the BRZ and immediately build the engine and boost it

slow86 01-19-2017 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fguadamuz (Post 2834637)
Buy used. I regret not waiting little more to get one used for 5k less. And only if you have live with 2 doors


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More like 10-15k. I bought mines 31k out the door brand new. Now they're sitting in lots not moving for 15k with low miles :iono::iono:

fguadamuz 01-19-2017 12:24 AM

True now but I meant when I bought mine 3years ago. Should have waited a year at most to get a better deal


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humfrz 01-19-2017 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2834594)
Focus ST


Yaaaaaaaaaaa!......... @Cole is back ......... :party0030:



humfrz

humfrz 01-19-2017 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbrooksatl (Post 2834592)
If I have $10k in cash, to either put down on a Focus RS, or get a new BRZ and mod it, what should I do? I know it may be a bit biased of a forum, but wanted to get some good takes.

I'd recommend that you put your $10,000 down on a FR-S/BRZ.


humfrz

Calvin27 01-19-2017 12:47 AM

If you plan to track, BRZ.

$10k sounds like a lot but here's how it could go down:
- $1k for tyres
- $2k or wheels
- $3k for suspension (shocks, sways etc).
- $2k OFT + full exhaust
- $1k for oil cooler
- $1k for brakes

Prices may not be exact, but close enough.

If you are not tracking get the ford.

continuecrushing 01-19-2017 01:34 AM

My buddy has a focus RS, and its completely different from an FRS.

Also, the RS will be significantly more expensive...

What are your goals for a car?

FRSBRZGT86FAN 01-19-2017 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2834662)
Yaaaaaaaaaaa!......... @Cole is back ......... :party0030:



humfrz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2834594)
Focus ST


I'd like to say I've returned back from the dead as well :burnrubber:

Mr.ac 01-19-2017 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbrooksatl (Post 2834592)
If I have $10k in cash, to either put down on a Focus RS, or get a new BRZ and mod it, what should I do? I know it may be a bit biased of a forum, but wanted to get some good takes.

Knowing jack shit what you want out of it, I say neither. Get a used 4 door civic for $8k and spend the $2k on hookers and blow.

FYI the $8k 4 door civic will be just as fast as the brz and the rs. The rs is a fat pig by the way.

humfrz 01-19-2017 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2834717)
I'd like to say I've returned back from the dead as well :burnrubber:

Welcome back .........:slap: .....now, don't go away no more ...... :D


humfrz

guybo 01-19-2017 07:02 AM

If you get a Focus, you're going to have lots of trouble with it. Ford has a lot of problems with this car, specifically with the transmission. Don't get the AT.

If you're looking for reliability, the FRS (or for that matter, the Civic mentioned above) are much better options.

Yardjass 01-19-2017 08:00 AM

First off, you're assuming that you can get an RS for $40k, which isn't a safe assumption. Every one I've seen they have marked up to over $50k, which is laughable to say the least to buy a piece of crap like that. For the price these fools are asking for a new focus, I'd have a beater civic and a C6 Z06, both of which look better and are far better at their assigned tasks than the Ford.

DarkSunrise 01-19-2017 08:15 AM

If you want a Ford product for $40k, go with the 2018 Mustang GT PP with magnetic active dampers. I'd only consider the RS if you need the extra doors.

If you're going to track the car, the FR-S is great. Use the extra $10k (or more, if you buy used) for mods/maintenance.

Summerwolf 01-19-2017 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guybo (Post 2834781)
If you get a Focus, you're going to have lots of trouble with it. Ford has a lot of problems with this car, specifically with the transmission. Don't get the AT.

If you're looking for reliability, the FRS (or for that matter, the Civic mentioned above) are much better options.



What AT?

FujiwaraTofu86 01-19-2017 09:17 AM

your money, your car, you will live with it, test drive both buy the car that you like.


the end.

Tcoat 01-19-2017 09:18 AM

Buy a BRZ. New if warranty and peace of mind are important or used if extensively modding or able to work on yourself.
Drive the car for at least 6 months before performing any performance mods. Don't mod based upon what you have read or people tell you but mod because you found something you want to change for your own reasons. Purely cosmetic mods do as soon as you want though since they are already your own taste.
After driving the car a while and deciding what you may want to change THEN start your shopping for what you want. There is no way anybody can decide what they want to change before they even own the car.


Or


Buy the RS and enjoy it for what it is (something very very different than a BRZ)

Th3rdSun 01-19-2017 11:09 AM

The ONLY Ford that I would actually spend my money on is the GT 350 R.

That being said,get an STI and be done with it.

Yardjass 01-19-2017 11:14 AM

List of cars that check nearly all the same boxes that you should buy before even considering dropping the sort of coin that a Focus RS requires:


- Chevy SS
- Focus ST
- Fiesta ST
- Golf R or GTI
- Last gen WRX/STI hatch
- EVO X


The RS is a great car but they're being marked up a lot and they're grossly overpriced, even at MSRP. They also won't be worth jack squat in a few years. They're a great car but an absolutely horrible purchase unless you're literally so rich that you just don't care.

krayzie 01-19-2017 11:27 AM

This is probably the best beater Civic ever made and probably handles better out of the box without any trick electronics than all those modern lardarses on that list.

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Tcoat 01-19-2017 11:41 AM

LOL I wondered how long it would take for this to turn into the typical "I really like the XXXX regardless that it is an ancient relic" thread. Must say it took longer then I thought.


OP get one of these. It never let me down.


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LOLS2K 01-19-2017 11:46 AM

Miata
Is
Always
The
Answer

darthpnoy1984 01-19-2017 12:15 PM

Either one and leave them stock for heaven sakes doesn't need any more power.


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Braces 01-19-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Th3rdSun (Post 2834868)
The ONLY Ford that I would actually spend my money on is the GT 350 R.

That being said,get an STI and be done with it.


Yep. Wise words spoken here.

2JZ-GTE 01-19-2017 12:55 PM

Buy a FR-S! FRS MASTER RACE YO:lol:
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Tcoat 01-19-2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Th3rdSun (Post 2834868)
The ONLY Ford that I would actually spend my money on is the GT 350 R.

That being said,get an STI and be done with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braces (Post 2834918)
Yep. Wise words spoken here.

Have you driven a Ford lately? (Wasn't that a commercial at one point?) They have come a long LONG way in the last 10 years. I once would have agreed with you 100% but not anymore.

kakacarrotcake 01-19-2017 01:02 PM

If you look you can find an FR-S for 16-18k with about 30k on the odometer. Put 5k down and your payment will easily be under 300/month, then, spend the other 5 powerrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Braces 01-19-2017 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2834939)
Have you driven a Ford lately? (Wasn't that a commercial at one point?) They have come a long LONG way in the last 10 years. I once would have agreed with you 100% but not anymore.

I was referring mostly to their sports cars. The only Fords that I consider real sport cars are the GT350R and the Ford GT. The other offerings (Mustang GT, RS,etc) are the every day lesser cars. Even the Shelby with the SC was more of a light to light car. As others have opined ... the RS is powerful, but I question the hatch design and relative high center of gravity vs. a Twin.

As for other Ford products. I love their trucks. I used to own a F350 Superduty with the turbo diesel. Effortless towing. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned.

Looked great with big ole swamp tires, lift kit, gun rack and confederate flag. Got rid of it because I sold the boat and I was getting tired of the notes on my windshield commenting. "Big Truck .... Small Johnson". :D

Tcoat 01-19-2017 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braces (Post 2834981)
I was referring mostly to their sports cars. The only Fords that I consider real sport cars are the GT350R and the Ford GT. The other offerings (Mustang GT, RS,etc) are the every day lesser cars. Even the Shelby with the SC was more of a light to light car. As others have opined ... the RS is powerful, but I question the hatch design and relative high center of gravity vs. a Twin.

As for other Ford products. I love their trucks. I used to own a F350 Superduty with the turbo diesel. Effortless towing. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned.

Looked great with big ole swamp tires, lift kit, gun rack and confederate flag. Got rid of it because I sold the boat and I was getting tired of the notes on my windshield commenting. "Big Truck .... Small Johnson". :D

Why not have both?


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finch1750 01-19-2017 02:15 PM

Those cars are very different. Go drive both and buy the one you like. I would buy a used BRZ and then mod it though. Why take the depreciation hit and warranty doesn't matter if your just gonna throw parts at it anyway


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