Engine Swap ...
 

Since this will happen by some tuner shop building a drift machine ..

What engine swap would like to see once this FT-86/FR-S what ever it will be call hits the public roads in the US ??


I personally would like to see the engine that holds such a special place in my heart.. Beams 3S-GE Black Top ...

a BEAMS would be awesome but if we are going to talk about swamps and toyota you know it has to be a 2jz

however if its gonna be built for drift then you know its gotta be a V8 under the hood

2jz-GTTE would be sick.. (if it could fit) ..

Which V8 are you thinking about ??

Everything in this quote just made my eye twitch.

I can't tell if he's joking or not.

@Mac: Its 2Z-GTE, not GTTE...this isn't a nissan motor. And, if he's being serious, probably the 3UZ.

I agree, the 3S seems to be a suitable candidate for a swap, but honestly, we can't tell anything until we can see the clearance under the hood. Its going to be running a Flat 4 and might not take nicely to swapping in an inline, though if I'm not mistaken, the 3S needs to be at slant angle anyways for oil flow. Can look kinda silly.

Trying to think of others engines that might be easier to swap (possibly straight bolt up to stock FT-S transmission, or simple bellhousing swap w/ no welding necessary). Course, don't know, don't have exact model info on the transmission...maybe the AR?

Sorry for the type... but it can be GTTE head if you add a custom twin turbo set up ... just as if you ass dual a supercharger it you can call it a GZE head.. (and yes I have seen a 2JZ-GE with a custom supercharger on it.. it was on an IS.. thing was pretty bad ass.

No.

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you can disagree with me.. driving for the last 15 years.. and working on cars since the age of 12.. I have seen and driving a lot of ..

You don't know the defintion of the T do you?

Toyota doesn't designate a Twin Turbo setup in their engine code with a double T. I know Nissan does, some other companies might as well for all I care.

2JZ-GTE is the engine code for the Twin Turbo Mk4, just as 1JZ-GTE is the engine code for the Twin Turbo Mk3. When you say 2JZ-GTE or 1JZ-GTE, its an automatic that its twin turbo...unless its been modified to a single turbo setup.

Thats all I was pointing out. The engine code is 2JZ-GTE, not GTTE. Just me being a toyota..err, grammar police I guess.

On topic: I forgot (somehow) about the 2ZZ...might also be a good candidate. Its fun to speculate for sure, but we'll just have to wait and see.

That's a lot of experience to not know that the 2JZGTE's only came with twin turbos. No custom setups involved.

So yes: I, and Toyota, disagree with you.

the ZZ-GE could be a swap .. That motor never got the love it should have...


and its cool about being the grammar police... but typos do happen and I just over looked it..


and I know the T stand to turbo charge ... GE stand for performance head, GZE stands for a supercharged performance head. GTE stand for a Turbo charged performance head. FE stands for fuel economy head.. and so on.. in then tuner world .. a lot of people your GTTE to let others know they are talking about a custom Twin turbo.. and not the stock version that came from factory ... but more people switch to a single turbo set up..

I sure haven't heard that before.

No they don't. The only unconventional term is NA-T referring to a 7MGE or 2JZGE that has been custom turbo'd. Common usage is simply 1JZ or 2JZ, automatic implication usually being that it is tubo'd. When specifying a setup you will hear '1JZ with stock twins', '2JZ with big single' never '2JZGTTE'.

2JZGTTE = Noob speak.

And referring to a 2JZGE/NA-T as a 2JZGTE is also a fail.

You are henceforth educated. :)

That is fine.. Where I am from that is the terms we use... you don't have to agree with it. like it or use. it.. doesn't change how we talk about cars...

I'm not disagreeing with you or saying you're wrong. Chill my friend. Prob good idea to explain before hand, so at least OldSkool & others understand.

There's also 5A-GE, aka upping displacement via increasing stoke using a kit, and the 7A-GE, mating a 4A head to a 7A block, which basically does the same thing...with less headache.

I'm chilled.. don't worry about that.. I'm a really laid back person.. an interweb forum will never get me upset.. lol ..

Yes, I'm just pissy over the Scion news. Nevermind me.

Back to the swap talk...

EJ series may end up being one of the first swaps, depending on how inter-changeable Subaru made the FB and EJ.

Don't forget you can do the same with a 5S-FE and 3S-GE .. ..

Yeah, thats the first obvious choice...trying to keep it Toyota though...as a Toyota fanboi, there's gotta be an engine they have to swap in so it can be 'proper'.:bellyroll:

This one could work 2AZ-FE .. this engine has been proven to handle boost every well.. it could make a nice swap for a time attack car..

Ya obviously the sti motor will be swapped first.
Also you can mount a 3sge vertically with a oil pan out of a 2s (i f I remember corrrectly)

And holy fuck, its the beggining of the end for this forum

Well the point on the 3S was that, such as the FT-86 is using a Flat 4 engine, instead of a taller inline, it might be an extremely hard swap trying to put an inline in there (all speculation as we can't examine the engine bay up close). A pro to the 3S being a suitable swap would be that you would have to install it at a slant, which would make it easier to clear the hoodline.

Well if the hood clearance is the last problem someone is left with. that would be the simplest one to fix.

but I have a feeling that swap will be done by some one..if this car ever sees production.

Subarus aren't too big on the extreme swaps. Usually just STI stuff going into non-STI cars, and the occasional H6 getting stuffed in where an H4 was originally.

Most owners don't do extreme swaps... I really see this more of some company building a demo car and dropping a toyota motor and doing some crazy AE86 vs FT86 build..

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Actually looks like an inline 4 could fit in there. Don't know how that would throw off the balance though...

Yeah, typically when swapping inline to inline and such it usually isn't. I've never done (or seen done) a Subaru flat swapped for a taller inline, especially in a subaru as small as the FT86 is going to be, so thats what I'm going off. It would seem since the chassis is designed around a relatively flat engine (in comparison to inline), it might pose more of an issue.:iono:

I think the main swap advantage here is that the transmission/motor are more rearward than the old AWD layouts. So in this case you probably won't have the whole inline 4 hanging out in front of the front axle. Which would be scary.

A V6 is narrower than an H4, not as long as an Inline 4, and possibly shorter than the L4 too, depending on intake manifold design... 2GRFSE?

My dad drove nothing fords and Subarus for a long time before he went to just driving Audi s .. in other countries strange swaps are done all the time.. So I did he talk about putting a rotory engine and trans in a subaru once just cause they had a ship load of extra parts laying around.




if that is going they layout of the chaise a lot can be down with it.. Rotory would look nice in there..

Hope you're not talking bout swapping EZ/EG engine. Cuz that's not an extreme swap.

lol I thought there already is an ENGINE SWAP THREAD no?

its a scion now havnt you heard none of "those" people have any sense to look for an existing thread or know that engine swaps and ZOMG SUB 10sec quarter mile times is not what this car is about

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That's a good one! Lets see what Gary thinks about it.... Gary?

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