SBD400X turbocharger
 

So i have been looking into possibly buying this kit.. probably the one that costs $3800, because it includes the drift bar, the tune for OFT, and some other stuff that i will probably need. The last post i saw about this kit looked like it was at least a year old.. Does anyone have any experience with this kit? It looks good to me but i figured i would see what this forum has to say about it. Im sure there are better options but they all seem a lot more expensive.

Heres the URL:
https://spdbydesign.com/product/sbd-...undle-package/

They have a facebook group, you can join and talk to all the guys owning it.

Basically it's a knock off Greddy kit, and for the price it's pretty hard to beat. I also haven't seen anyone have problems with SBD turbo kits either. It has a Mitsubishi 20G turbo. I personally no longer really see anything wrong with it, it's a damn good deal for what you get. But seeing you live in CA, I don't know how you'd pass emissions over there.

I have my ways. Not too worried about that. Thanks for the input! It seems pretty good to me.. i am just trying to research as much as possible before i start trying to buy it.

JDL's kit has come down in price to match this kit, and you can get an actual gtx series along with for the same price point. Perhaps I'm biased because that's what I run, but JDL>SBD every day of the week.

The treadstone come with an EFR turbo and don't need moding the crash bar for a little more but totally justified.

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...+the+FRS%2FBRZ

The SBD400X kit is $2999.

We do offer a "complete" kit, which includes our 2.5" Catless Overpipe/Front Pipe, Drift Armor Bar, Pre-welded oil pan, etc for $3699.....but those are optional.

We have lots of customers who weld their factory oil pan, run their factory exhaust parts and modify or remove their factory bumper beam to save money.

But the base kit is $2999 and will make 275whp roughly through the factory exhaust parts.

Add our 2.5" OP/FP and the kit will make right at 300whp @ 10 psi on 91/93 octane.

All on a 100% factory fuel system and no need to change the factory fans.

These kits are also in-stock and we can ship most orders same day.

Still was my first choice for FI but at the end of the day i needed something that i could pass CARB with without being shady. If i ever buy a track only 86 i'm 100% throwing this kit on it.

What's the difference between your SBD400X FT86 Turbo Kit (Complete Bundle Package) and Openflashs' OFT 350 turbo system?

OFT350= SBD400X Turbo Kit for $2999

Our Complete Kit includes the Pre-welded Oil Pan, 2.5" Catless Overpipe & Front Pipe, and Drift Armor Bar for $3699.

Looks like they increased their prices. I thought I saw their base at 2999. Its now at 3599. :iono:

There base is still 2999

Where?

https://jdlautodesign.net/shop/ft86-...oll-turbo-kit/

It's increased now to 3600 starting off. They said something about after new years they're making changes to their kit. Not sure if that's what it is or not.

I have owned the SBD turbo kit for exactly 1 year next week and have 13k miles on it.
So happy with the results. With an invidia over pipe and catted down pipe into stock exhaust I made 300whp on Ptunings dyno. The car pulls a little harder then a stock SRT8 392 Challenger and a 5.0 Mustang.


Normal low rpm driving there is NO powerloss or lag - mid rpm dip is completely gone. My favorite thing is going down the highway at 3k rpms and giving it 1/4 gas and just taking off.


One of the tricks SBD did is on the full length header the pipe diameter is smaller. This allows more low end power 2-3k and allows quicker spool up. My datalogs show 7 psi of boost at just 4k rpms. 3500 to 4000rpm is the best part of the car now.


My gas mileage went from 29.4 avg to 28.5. Really nice blow off valve.


Cons: - the turbo jacket is a little cheap. They don't supply a tee and vacuum lines for the BOV - The exhaust wrap with the kit is horrible, you will need to buy better wrap.

I only have a few complaints about the SBD kit.

1. The exhaust fasteners are very low quality, but that's almost universal among aftermarket exhaust manufacturers, and is becoming more common with OEM's

2. It turns an otherwise 5-minute belt job into a 4+ hour ordeal with many non-reusable parts.

3. The piping is nice and thick/durable but some parts ship with weld distortion that makes them fail to line up when assembled. The downpipe flange to pipe joint geometry means some of the nuts won't turn (because they collide with the pipe) unless you lift the downpipe off of the turbo flange, start the threads at the same time, and alternate tightening them until they hit the flange. It's nit-picking, but it easily more than triples the assembly time.... And you have to take it apart to do the belt.

Otherwise, it's ok for the price and makes good power with a very nice boost curve. The MHI 20G is a respectable turbo.

For my money, JDL makes much better parts, their quality control is excellent, they make it here in the US, and they will absolutely make it right immediately if something fails to fit or leaks due to quality control/manufacturing issues. SBD did eventually make the manifold flex joint issue right, and revised the kit, but comparing the two quality control situations, JDL does a significantly better job.

Fair assessment.

There are higher quality turbo blankets on the market, 100%, but we were able to include this item starting in 2016 for FREE. There was ZERO upcharge in the kit, so keep that in mind.

The Vacuum Tee + 1/4" hose is about $5 worth of hardware, available at any auto parts store. I'll see what I can do about adding it moving forward, as a convenience item.

In regards to the exhaust wrap included, that's actually meant for the downpipe only...as it's closest to the factory fans. I don't feel wrapping the exhaust manifold is necessary, as I have never found the need to wrap my own car...(which is the first kit ever installed.) Therefore we don't include enough wrap to wrap the manifolds, but the customer is welcome to source on their own.

Obviously we're trying to keep the price point at $2999, and we're having to make some concessions to do so. Ultimately, you're out about another $5 for the universal vacuum tee + hose.

It still remains the Turbo Kit value leader in the FT86 market.

If JDL is back to $3700...$700 additional goes a long way in accessory upgrades & buys you our "complete kit"...which adds:

1.) SBD 2.5" Catless Overpipe + Front Pipe
2.) Pre-Welded Oil Pan
3.) Drift Armor Bar.

https://spdbydesign.com/product/sbd-...-brzscion-frs/

Right there

Haha!

I called JDL they gave me a kit for 2999. So same price as SBD but I have Tial wg and bov. Better quality hot parts, still a shitty precision 5431 though. I got the no cut option too for 200. So same as buying the DA bar. Good enough for me. :thumbup:

The no cut option was 200 dollars extra? Damn W2s need to hurry up LOL

Friend of mine has an SBD kit, my kit is heads and tails higher quality. They used to 4854s...that's what I have. The charge piping is so short though the response is still great. If you want to stay with HRI though, he told me he refuses to tune JDL.

I already talked to him he'll tune it. The MAF placement on the no cut version is better. Its the regular versions he doesn't like to tune.

4831 is the base turbo. I asked for a size up to the 5431 .63 a/r which is 500hp rated. Never heard of the 4854... The first number is compressor mm not sure what the second number means..

Gotcha. Yeah the longer charge piping version didn't exist when I made my purchase. To me the MAF placement is no different than Greddy/SBD/Full Race/MAPerformance :iono: No hard feelings harbored though, James is a really cool guy. I ended up going through Delicious and I'm very satisfied with my tune....although there is a certain peace of mind knowing that your car has been tuned in person. Once I jump to flex fuel I may go through Circuit Motorsports over by you in Orlando.

Precisions are numbered by Compressor wheel inducer and then Turbine Wheel Exducer sizes. It's very similar in size spec to a disco potato;

http://www.enjukuracing.com/products...54b-turbo.html

Cool yep thanks for the info. James almost never turns anyone down kinda surprised. Circuit is a good option be my 2nd if James wasn't around anyways those guys are experienced too. Tune fa20s pretty often as well. I guess to those that don't know of HRI. James told me he has already tuned a no cut version it was fine he said. The turbo looks small mines rated at 500 hp bc 54mm comp I guess.

How is your spool and boost threshold btw? I assume mine might be a little bit laggier but I'm I guess my turbine is smaller hope it doesnt creep...

We just surpassed 2000 members in our SBD FT86 Turbo Kit Owner's Group!

Anyone wanting to learn about the kit is welcome ;)

James @ HRI is a Tuner for the kit, so anyone that wants to use him is good to go.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SBDF...itOwnersGroup/ :burnrubber:

You should see our latest variant ;)

We continue to make changes and improve the kits with every production run.

The new 500X Ball-Bearing kits are HARD to beat @ $3499.

Cant argue that!

Btw how many cfm or lb/min does the 400x and 500x flow?

I have the SBD kit. Its ok but looking to uninstall it and perhaps get a different FI kit.

I have had too many issues with exhaust leaks and carbon monoxide leaking into the cabin. The quality of the kit is mediocre.... you get what you pay for.

If I had to do it over again, I'm not sure I would get the SBD kit again. The price was attractive but it has caused me too many headaches.

Did you have an earlier kit? Seems most of the issues are sorted now with maybe the exception of the Bov leaks. I personally went JDL :D

Yeah I have an earlier 7psi kit.

I am on mine for a month now. Had a 160 HP increase pro tuned off the 10lb internal waste gate. Clutch is now slipping in less than a month, fuel pump had to be upgraded, around 50-100$ in extras you will need to really complete it all Correctly.
Quality is beyond amazing for the price and the owner of SBD responds on facebook in less than a minute to any questions. Customer service of SBD is unmatchable. If you are mechanically inclined and dont mind doing research this kit is for you. The kit really is the best Garage install style kit i have ever seen.

I've had the SBD kit installed for around 20k miles now and I'm extremely happy with it. Over time I've upgraded the clamps to t-bolts and replaced the BOV with a Turbosmart unit that's more responsive. That's it though - no real issues whatsoever.

just curious if anyone uses the sti pcv valve? i planned on getting an oil catch can and deleting the pcv valve but a buddy of mine told me to keep my pcv valve. i heard that our stock pcv valve cant handle boost so im a bit tied up atm? just curious what you guys have to say about that, also a picture of that pcv valve would be much appreciated if necessary to use it so i know what im looking for exactly. thanks guys

just curious if we still need to buy the sti pcv valve and is a clutch kit necessary for the 400x series turbo kit? also who and how can i contact someone about getting a tune for this turbo kit? and whats the price of it?

I'm not sure who you are, but could you call me at 405-309-9723?

I'm happy to help & your comments are not reflective of the thousands of owners who run the kit.

If there's a product defect with a component on your kit, we will warranty it ;)

I 100% stand behind our products, period.

Chris

Did you buy new from us or used?

If you have a V1 kit, that kit would be from 2013 and we've made numerous improvements over the past 4 years.

Would you mind answering my questions as well? <3:wub:

Yes, I suggest the $13 Metal PCV valve to replace the factory plastic one....

Yes, I suggest a clutch, as the factory clutch will slip under boost....especially in the higher mileage cars.

For tuning, Shiv offers a custom tune for his OFT users for $245. Can be purchased here:

http://www.openflashtablet.com/shop/custom-e-tuning/

Ecutek has LOADS of tuners that offer tunes, but Visconti is the cheapest at $400 for Ecutek Programmer, License and tune. Currently the lowest price for a programmer + tune combo.

https://www.viscontituning.com/colle...t-tune-special

Do you happen to have the part number for the PCV valve?

Subaru 11810AA040 OEM Replacement PCV Valve

Subaru 11810AA040 OEM Replacement PCV Valve https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IGZRX1A..._tf5QybDC090VQ