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https://www.facebook.com/subaruofame...376689/?type=3

I'm sure your fellow Chicago residents appreciated your help with ploughing the roads after that storm.... :D

I did a pretty good job of that this past weekend...

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rBnP1JM4o"]Snow Plow Lip - YouTube[/ame]

let us see your face...otherwise you aint really famous

I have seen it now. Pretty scary actually.

What has been seen...

I love everyone talking shit about it being RWD. Like @Tcoat is fond of pointing out, 50+ years ago when their grandmother was learning to drive, that's all there was. It's not the inherent catastrophe some people believe it to be, but you'd never convince them of that.

I knew the comments would turn into a shitstorm. It's the main reason I was looking forward to them posting it, lol. I kinda figured all the "Subaru Purists" would get annoyed when Subaru posted their one RWD car in the snow, lol.

I had never heard of this horror show that driving RWD is supposed to be until I joined this forum. Much of it seems to be some weird elitist thought process much like driving MT (which your grandmothers also drove).


Holy crap I just went and read it. That is why I stay away from FB most of the time! How many guys are going to say "I owned one and it will not move in the snow"?

DailyDriver on youtube noted that there are two things that make a car safe in the snow:
1. ability to stop on snow and ice
2. ability to maneuver/change direction.

They noted that the SUV's were considerably less safe in the snow, by a long shot. The light weight and low center of gravity BRZ made their test run in the winter safer than SUVs. They were not trying to prove a point at all, just a fun test of the BRZ/FRS in a high altitude snow place. The awd and 4x4 drive was clearly great for getting out of snow banks and accelerating. One does not avoid a crash with either of those things. 0 hp/0 torque is best for handling/avoidance.

Steering in snow will always be better with free moving front wheels. Like a snow mobile, steers great if no torque in front.

BRZ has same ground clearance as most sedans too.

i thought they were ALL all wheel drive except for the fr-s because it's the poverty model

LOL Not all of them (or the FRS or 86)!

The 2018's will be. Subaru is looking to cut costs and share more parts with the Impreza line.

And the 86 will share a platform with Mazda! I read it just the other day.

I thought that was the upcoming combination Supra/RX9 chassis?

i heard they will finally be making the convertible now too

nah they will skip 9 and go straight to 10 and it will be free

No that is just a rebadged BMW.

Would have too to meet the Mazda demands.

the skyactiv turbo engine?

#thewankelives!

well, I guess you are correct. Camry's in a sportier suspension are 5.9-6.1

WRX is 4.9, an inch probably makes a big difference.

BRZ is 4.9.

Mini cooper s I drive is 4.9.

Mini cooper + WRX = winter capable.

BRZ at 4.9 is too low. Apparently, 4.9 inches on the BRZ is from a different plane of existence, some altered dimension where the WRX is snow capable but the BRZ is a plow. :iono::iono::iono::iono::iono::iono::iono::iono::i ono:

Subaru's been good about marketing AWD capabilities for a regular street car, so you can blame the brainwashed masses for that.

Those same people also want a turbo on this car.

-alex

Mine is a hair over 3 and I am on my 3rd winter without ever being stuck or unable to go anyplace. In the Snowbelt of Canada. Even when I bottom out in heavy snow all the skid plates underneath just slide me along.

Those comments gave me cancer

Yeah, my car in that photo is lowered on KW V3s coilovers. It's probably around 1 inch lower, if not more. Haven't gotten stuck yet (though I fear for the life of my lip) with all the ice chunks on the road lol.) The 1" less clearance definitely makes deeper snow less passable though. I won't pretend it doesn't.

t-coat is my hero:23:

Ya those ice chunks can do a number on your lip or bumper!


Chunk of wheel well ice frozen to the ground in a parking lot:

It's funny how my car gets autocrossed in the summer, and then COVERED in salt and thrashed in every major snow storm in the winter, and ice raced... and yet so far more than two years later, she still cleans up to look like new. I'm waiting for that to change though.

You see if you bought a wrx this wouldve never happened. :bonk:

Nope because I would probably be stuck with the rest of them trying to run all season tires!

Look at all that cocaine.

LOL And the California version of Ice

http://media.oregonlive.com/ent_impa...d566c60f8a.jpg

No me.
[ame]http://youtu.be/15MkvflUBNY[/ame]

I hate to ruin the joke but I don't know who that is. I'm guessing Ice something or other.
I guess the local equivalent would be this Guy.
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His hair looks like ice.;)...It does get frosty here but usually only snows in the mountains. Maybe it snows once every 7 years or so.

To get back on topic I actually tore a belly pan on a Mazda3 in Kentucky. It wasn't the 5-6 inches of snow so much as the layer of ice on top of it. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that anymore. Though a set of chains is required to cross the Trinity Alps this time of year. I haven't had to head east in the winter. The mountain passes here are bad enough when it's rainy though. I'm still on all-seasons because I'm a greedy bastard and haven't had to traverse highway 299 or 36 in the winter.

I couldn't resist leaving a few sarcastic comments about how "2WD should be banned in the snow"

Seriously, too much AWD Koolaid being imbibed there....

If you think you need awd to navigate snowy conditions, you're just a terrible driver.

The fun part is that most of those AWD drivers think they can run all season tires because those other two wheels make up for things.
In the last two weeks I have had to stop my RWD car 4 times to help push stuck AWD cars out of the way so I could precede. Not one of them had snow tires and 3 out of the 4 thought I was insane for saying they should get them (even though they were currently stuck on the same road I was driving down). Just the other day I snowplowed the road with my lowered RWD car so a WRX could get down the street.

Those fools talking about winter like we don't know what it is...

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