Just took ownership of a new Camaro SS.....The BRZ will definitely be missed :/
 

After 3 years of ownership of my 2014 BRZ, it was time to say goodbye. The BRZ is definitely a special car, but after seeing good reviews on the new Camaro SS, I was very curious about it. From the 455 hp to the weight reduction, I just had to test drive one. In late November, I have taken ownership of a 2017 Hyper Blue Camaro 1ss with magnetic ride control:

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...pstmandh6w.jpg

In terms of power, the Camaro is a beast. The motor has tons of torque and the power is addicting. In terms of handling, it is not light and nimble as the BRZ, but the the Camaro feels more confident and stable in high speed corners. When throwing the Camaro into tight corners, you do feel the extra weight, but powering out of the corners is ridiculously fun. I would say it does handle the tight corners very well for a 3700 lb car, but the BRZ/FRS is more tossable because of its lighter weight. Steering feels just as precise as the BRZ (BRZ does have a bit more road feel) and steering feels nice and heavy once you put it in Track Mode. The BRZ/FRS steering is more on the lighter side. The main gripes that I have about the Camaro is poor visability and sitting up higher. I am going to miss the low COG the BRZ had.

Pic of the BRZ:
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/...psnxpw4gtu.jpg

My condolences LOL

The SS should be an exciting change coming from the BRZ.
You should be able to lose your drivers license with ease now!
I give you one month. Enjoy it while you can.

I don't know what it is about the Camaro but i've never been able to get behind the new modern styling.

Reminds of a concept drawing that just got more and more awkward as the mechanical and safety engineers got to work.

I will say though, the 17 has done a great job taking the bulkier early models and trimming them up a bit.

Congrats! It looks great in blue. Let's just hope you don't have regrets after the honeymoon phase like this guy did after he traded his twin for a Mustang GT :lol:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums//show....php?p=1772334

Congrats, it's a good car. The only down side the next years model will look way better. It's just like buying a PC, you know the next years products are going to be better and faster.

Pretty much, I was in your shoes a few months ago, but I was unsure and didn't pull the trigger.

do you notice the difference in how wide the Camaro is? I drove a buddies mustang and that thing was pretty wide to the point where I was having trouble judging where the edges of the car were. but then again, it probably was because I wasn't used to driving big cars (owned an MR2 and then the BRZ)

Sorry for your loss.

I have, though older, a Mustang GT. Never drive it anymore. Just not the fun that I get from my FRS.
Though my Mustang has lots of power, and a smooth as butter shifting Tremec trans, just does not handle curves like the 86 body.

Assume you are much younger than myself. I can understand wanting the muscle car experience. Have fun just going for it for now.

Congrats. I too was very much leaning the Camaro direction after losing my last BRZ to an accident. I test drove 3 different Camaros on 2 different days, and one time test drove a BRZ back to back with it. The Camaro has a lot of merits, and the engine is fantastic no doubt.

But, in the end the BRZ just fits me too well. My next one will be here soon and I will boost fairly quickly with an EB kit. Mind you this will be my 4th BRZ, so I know what i am getting into. But enjoy your Camaro, it is a great car. All the pros or cons are subjective on the driver, it just wasnt the dance partner for me.

Congrats, should be a fun car!

The Alpha Camaro SS is in a different league than the older Mustang GTs completely. The Mustang GT is a muscle car. The Camaro SS is a driver's car that also happens to be a muscle car.






Newer models don't always look better than the original. Look at the MY17 86 :barf:

Congrats, I love the color. Best of luck with it.

Congrats, have fun with this different beast.

It's like congratulating a dog owner with his new cat :)

That's a mustang so..... Probably not.




OP - That is one helluva an upgrade. Don't listen to anyone on this forum who says otherwise.

you fucked up man :D

I tested drove a 2SS a few weeks ago as well, but I decided Miata ND is a better car for me. I'm waiting for the RF.

Leaning that way myself based on test drives of SS, ND, and '17 BRZ/GT86. Not sure about the RF's look yet though, have to see it in person, and if it's OK then I'll want a test drive - it weighs 120 lbs more than the soft top which does not appeal. And well equipped here it's going to cost ten grand more than even a Series Yellow...

Yeah. Miata is a ripped off in Canada for sure. I'm a SCCA member, I can at least get it at invoice, but I'll haggle for more. RF maybe ~100lb heavier, but as long as rotational weight is reduced, the additional weight from hardtop doesn't matter.

Well the RF's extra weight being inboard may not hurt the polar moment of inertia but being up high it's going to do a nasty number on the COG height giving even more of that Miata body roll unless they stiffen the suspension (which has its own tradeoffs for street use). I'm leaning to the soft top Club with BBS/Brembo/Recaros for about $38k with negotiation (there will be no discounts on RFs for a while).

R.I.P brz

Unless you don't plan on keeping the car more than 5 years, it's good to just get base Club and go aftermarket. Koni+Flyin' Miata Spring, UL09 17x8, Willwood BBK cost about the same as BBS/Brembo package while offer much more perf per $.

Additional weight is actually distributed all over. Top only add 60-80lb. Extra Sound deadening, standard techs included in the RF.

/End of thread jacking

I'd love one of these but they are so expensive over here in the UK

Good luck. Let us know how much you are enjoying it...

The Miata RF is just ugly. Why not go with the original instead...

That my friend, is the example of "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

I think that the RF miata is possibly the best looking car out of Japan that is not over 60k dollars in DECADES.

that thing is beautiful.

There is a reason why I won't go test drive a 2017 Camaro 1SS.


I have not made car payments in 20 years and I do not want to start again now.

...

Buy what makes you happy.

The initial 'retro' Camaro iteration nailed it, even if Tranformorsishly cartoonish.

This newest gen smacks of change for the sake of change, and a confused, unrecognizably stylistic, spastic grasping that has no idea in which way it next wants to morph. It appears to have been penned by a gamer kid who's never driven a car, or has naught a sniff of Camaro dna.

When I see this car, my eye is immediately drawn to the awkwardly exaggerated horizontal crease above the door bottom, and thankfully not to the rather silly head/tail light exercises. Perhaps intentional.

The initial iteration had personality. This one appears confused.

Please understand, I mean no offence.

On the weight: From Miata's own specsheet PDFs:

manual ND soft top: 2332 lbs
RF manual: 2456 lbs
difference: 124 lbs - of which about 100 lbs is roof and roof mechanism

Re the Sport package for the ND - I agree bang for buck on brakes might be better - but the forged wheels are nice and light, and some people prefer the assurance of having a fully warranteed car and not dealing with the potential hassle of having the dealer claim (rightly or wrongly) that any problems are due to your mods. Plus the cost of getting those lovely Recaros in the aftermarket will be ridiculous (according to those Americans who have looked into it because they don't get them - see miata.net). Parts cost through Canadian dealer is several thousand a throne.

/thread jacking

Forgot you guys got Recaros... but they are just reskinned stock seats. Only thing it offers better than stock is hold-you-in-place Alcantara insert.

Checked Camaro SS 1LE, Recaro is definitely more bolstered than standard seat.

Congrats! Make sure you don't drive one of the new vettes. My Camaro turned into one after a test drive. The Camaro is actually faster than the vette though :)

I ended up with a Camaro instead of the brz. The price/power is where the Camaro will shine. The car doesn't look as good as the first redesign, but the latest Camaro is based off of a different platform (shared with the Cadillac) and is much improved, especially with the magnetic shocks. You also feel like you are in a bunker. The vette is really the car to own, but it's completely not practical.

FYI, the Camaro made me so crazy I sold it after two years and not even three thousand miles.