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ThornhillSubaruOwner 12-12-2016 04:29 PM

Paypal Payment for Shipped Goods Question
 
I received a text early this morning about someone in California (I'm in Canada) that wants to buy my Tomei header. He is willing to pay full price but he will be sending money through paypal. He will also ask a private courier of his to pick it up from my doorstep.

So my question is, is there any possible scams that could happen from this?

Im thinking that because it's a "private courier" it could just be his friend or even him, and then he will put a dispute up with paypal saying that he didn't receive the item. I don't think a "private courier" can provide a receipt?

Thoughts?

jasonojordan 12-12-2016 04:30 PM

Sounds scammy.`

Bobby@Forged 12-12-2016 04:54 PM

I wouldn't do it. "Private courier" always rings my scam alarm bells.

FX86 12-12-2016 04:55 PM

tell that bitch ass jigga you will ship it via UPS

wtf is a private courier anyway

IceFyre13th 12-12-2016 04:59 PM

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Sounds like @Tcoat has a hand in this

ThornhillSubaruOwner 12-12-2016 06:01 PM

I just assumed it was his friend or even himself lmfao.

I said to send me the money as a gift on paypal. That way you can't dispute it.

krayzie 12-12-2016 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813230)
I received a text early this morning about someone in California (I'm in Canada) that wants to buy my Tomei header. He is willing to pay full price but he will be sending money through paypal. He will also ask a private courier of his to pick it up from my doorstep.

So my question is, is there any possible scams that could happen from this?

Im thinking that because it's a "private courier" it could just be his friend or even him, and then he will put a dispute up with paypal saying that he didn't receive the item. I don't think a "private courier" can provide a receipt?

Thoughts?

You need to issue you a bill of sale thru Paypal for him to pay it in order to qualify for buyer/seller protection. You would then need to show Paypal proof of shipment with a trackable shipping method once shipped.

This private courier sounds like a scam to me.

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813320)
I just assumed it was his friend or even himself lmfao.

I said to send me the money as a gift on paypal. That way you can't dispute it.

Technically you can then reverse scam him? lmao

ThornhillSubaruOwner 12-12-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 2813321)
You need to issue you a bill of sale thru Paypal for him to pay it in order to qualify for buyer/seller protection. You would then need to show Paypal proof of shipment with a trackable shipping method once shipped.

This private courier sounds like a scam to me.



Technically you can then reverse scam him? lmao


Yeah, the private courier part threw me off. I'll probably ask for the money as a gift or send it through UPS or something.

Do you think E-transfer would be safe?

krayzie 12-12-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813335)
Yeah, the private courier part threw me off. I'll probably ask for the money as a gift or send it through UPS or something.

Do you think E-transfer would be safe?

I wouldn't go with a wire transfer as a stop payment can be done on it afterwards.

Actually I've heard from my friend more than a decade ago where a Paypal transfer got reversed by the cross border buyer trying to scam him. Good thing my friend cashed out with a withdrawl just in time as he shipped out the goods already. I don't know what happened after lol!

wbradley 12-12-2016 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813335)
Yeah, the private courier part threw me off. I'll probably ask for the money as a gift or send it through UPS or something.

Do you think E-transfer would be safe?

Etransfer.

Check the buyers post history and sell/buyer history on here. I am assuming this person is on here. If theyre not definitely looking even more shady.Also ask for specific info regards to this private courier thing. People in CA not likely to buy what youre selling from Ontario. Scammers comb these ads and more.

Seems unlikely a US buyer would want your headers unless you have underpriced them.

Impureclient 12-12-2016 07:14 PM

Yeah, no way somebody in CA is going to shop for parts in Canada. There is a unlimited supply of used parts for our cars in CA.
I think people in CA change headers and wheels like the rest of us change underwear. I give this transaction a big NOPE.

tennisfreak 12-12-2016 07:34 PM

Tell him no problem.

If paying through Paypal and wants to use a private courier do the following:

A. Have him "gift" the money which will keep him from being able to try and fraud you on a sale.
B. Give him an address that is not yours and meet the courier for pickup there. This mitigates some shady fucker knowing your address.

ThornhillSubaruOwner 12-12-2016 08:14 PM

If he were to use paypal, I was going to withdraw all the cash first lol

He's willing to pay full price $800 cad for my header. Thats what made it even more sketchy.

gramicci101 12-12-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813401)
He's willing to pay full price $800 cad for my header. Thats what made it even more sketchy.

Shipped? That's only $65 USD less than a brand new one from FT-86SF. Purely based on that and the hassle of getting a header from Canada to California, I would walk away from the transaction. It MAY be a genuine offer, but is it really worth the risk?

ThornhillSubaruOwner 12-12-2016 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2813403)
Shipped? That's only $65 USD less than a brand new one from FT-86SF. Purely based on that and the hassle of getting a header from Canada to California, I would walk away from the transaction. It MAY be a genuine offer, but is it really worth the risk?

Well he said he was sending a "private courier" to pick it up for him. All in all, it's probably a scam. He stopped responding after I insisted on either e-transfer or gifting.

He also found my header via Kijiji. Not sure what he's doing on Ontario kijiji all the way in California. Haha.

new2subaru 12-12-2016 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813428)
Not sure what he's doing on Ontario kijiji all the way in California. Haha.

There's a city called Ontario in CA. Maybe it was just a mistake?

Tcoat 12-12-2016 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru (Post 2813432)
There's a city called Ontario in CA. Maybe it was just a mistake?

I have had the reverse confusion happen when I was looking for a certain model kit and thought I found it local.
For some reason Ontario Ca and Ontario Ca seem to get confused.

I am assuming that through the course of the correspondence that this would have been cleared up.

I wouldn't touch this for any reason since there are just way to many odd things about it.

new2subaru 12-12-2016 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2813472)
I have had the reverse confusion happen when I was looking for a certain model kit and thought I found it local.
For some reason Ontario Ca and Ontario Ca seem to get confused.

I am assuming that through the course of the correspondence that this would have been cleared up.

I wouldn't touch this for any reason since there are just way to many odd things about it.

Yep, they do a lot.

ThornhillSubaruOwner 12-12-2016 10:07 PM

Hmm, I'm not too sure that's the problem actually.

He says he's overseas in the US on business. Basically implies he's also aware of the difference between Canada, Ontario and US, Ontario.

I'm gonna look for local buyers. Too much troubles involved.

Tcoat 12-13-2016 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813494)
Hmm, I'm not too sure that's the problem actually.

He says he's overseas in the US on business. Basically implies he's also aware of the difference between Canada, Ontario and US, Ontario.

I'm gonna look for local buyers. Too much troubles involved.

Yet another questionable statement really. Are they on here? Are they a "member" but have never posted? Not asking who just if they are.

ThornhillSubaruOwner 12-13-2016 08:44 AM

It's been confirmed. He's a scammer.

I will post the fake Paypal email he sent me tonight.

He "Paypaled" me $1,400. $800 for the header, $600 for shipping. The fake paypal email then said I had to go to a Western Union and wire transfer the $600 to the shipping company first before the other $800 will go into my account. LOL

Tcoat 12-13-2016 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ThornhillSubaruOwner (Post 2813675)
It's been confirmed. He's a scammer.

I will post the fake Paypal email he sent me tonight.

He "Paypaled" me $1,400. $800 for the header, $600 for shipping. The fake paypal email then said I had to go to a Western Union and wire transfer the $600 to the shipping company first before the other $800 will go into my account. LOL

Thank you for the update. It is important that the message get's passed on so nobody falls for this sort of scam.

finch1750 12-13-2016 12:09 PM

Yeah, the private courier is always a scam. And just FYI Paypal has given protection to some people who sent as "gift" in some instances so just throwing that out there as it won't "protect" the seller necessarily

krayzie 12-13-2016 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru (Post 2813432)
There's a city called Ontario in CA. Maybe it was just a mistake?

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