Actual automotive news. Check this out!
 

http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...after-stumbles

Reading this website has given me a massive amount of information about these cars, profit margins for buying them, and also validates or invalidates people's fears about the brand.

Interesting read if no one has posted this before.

Be very very very careful what you believe in these. Like so many others they will take other site's speculation as fact and build on it until their articles are more fiction than fact. The one you linked isn't to bad but some of them can be totally outrageous.

subarus have several known faults, most dealing with the 2.5 ej engine. While that article sounds nice, we'll see when they fix things.

Looked legit for auto industry. Hm!

Overproduction will expose manufacturing related quality issues. Design flaws will be there regardless of quantity. That's why we get a warranty.

I hear range rovers are incredible. Just ask your local auto journalist. Probably find him at a soup kitchen.

Doesn't even touch on the twins anywhere in the article.
The twins are a minuscule part of the Fuji production schedule.
The 4wd and turbo cars are the ones with teething trouble.

I'm confused. OP's post carries the distinct odor of a Hormel cannery, but he has almost 50 posts. Either he really writes exactly like a paid shill, or he's the most patient spammer I've ever seen.

the twins are the only cars that are built in japan with 95% japanese parts. They do talk about USA production issues more in this article. Looking at a sticker in a showroom for a WRX, it is clear they have a lot of Mystery Meat on their menu as far as where parts are built or sourced from.

If you look at the discussions below articles, they have long conversations about real numbers of various car dealer hold outs, what invoice means currently on various models, things about truecar, etc. The commenting people are clearly in the business, no mere speculation. This here frs/brz forum is really nice, nice people, but it takes reading like 10-12 replies (sometimes 5-6 pages) to find one reply that has some hard data on anything.

There could be nothing "real" about the numbers. Or they could be 100% accurate. The problem is that much like the forum you can never know who has actual info and who is talking out of their ass.

No they are not!
How can you tell where the parts are made looking at a sticker?
All cars made everywhere are built with parts for other suppliers. That is the very industry I have been in for 30 years now.
At one employer we made HVAC and window motors for Ford, GM, BMW, Jag, Volkswagen and Volvo. You want to know what was different between each car make? You can probably guess.

95% assembled in Japan maybe. All the stuff that requires sewing stitching is probably done by some poor kid in China. That is, almost all of the interior of the car produced by China put into the car by Japan. All the metal is most likely outsourced from other nations where they have abundance and cheap labour to extract. Japan is not about to use their own valuable resources for production to mass produce for the world.

Bottom line, the cars that come out of Japan are intrinsically about as Japanese as a mixed race dude born America who went to school in Japan. This isn't isolate to Japanese automobiles; almost everything in the world built from parts comes from different parts of the world.

In new york, it has place of assembly, as well as what percentage of parts come from which country. The wrx's have less than 65% sourced Japan it says, the brz has 95%. Both are assembled in Japan though. I didn't check to see if same city.

Do your stickers show these things? I will take a photo when i get near one again this week. (Wrx)

Just get the car you want. One article or forum post is meaningless. Trust in the warranty. When things go wrong you fix them. It's only a car and in my experience Subies are pretty good when taken care of. Plenty of forum posts about issues, but who knows what these people have done to their car. All cars have issues, some more expensive then others. You gotta pay to play. All I know is I have not had a payment of my 04 WRX in 8 years and it's still going strong. Took an 02 Acura TL to 196k with virtually no issues at all. Sold it and that car is still going. Maintenance and some luck helps.

Nope ours do not have that much info on them. Sort of interesting to learn that yours say that.

You may enjoy this thread.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71898

What the Japanese consider a quality problem the Europeans would consider character and charge more for it. Lol

Sounds like things started slipping not long after Toyota bought them.


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Holding 16.5% of the shares does not really equal Toyota "buying" them.

I was kidding/trolling.


But that IS more than anyone else, by far.

Automotive News is a pretty legitimate source, as it's an actual publication directed toward industry insiders and not the general public. I work in the automotive aftermarket, and we (my colleagues and pretty much every counterpart at other companies I've met) are all subscribed to the publication and on their mailing list, and work with them routinely for press releases and product/business news.

That being said, as TCoat mentioned, there are a ton of bogus automotive news sites out there. Take everything with a big grain of salt until a manufacturer actually releases a statement.

My company is better than your company!!!!!


Ya, it wasn't the article that I was talking about in this case (I subscribe to the hardcopy as well) although they have got caught up in the rumour mill before. It was more the comments section. Anybody can make an account and comment and that is where you really need to be careful what you believe. Many of the older once reliable sites (i.e. Jalopnik) have gone down hill in credibility over the years since they are competing with so many clickbaits that they have to grab attention or die. It is also way to easy to look at some of the clickbaits and think they are OK.

Hey now, who bought whom? ;)

Completely agree on all points there.

The power of 2!

Stretching mfg capabilities in order to fill the pipeline will expose weaknesses. Happens to the best of em. My issues with my frs were more the result of me being an asshole, not flaws in the vehicle. Toyota stood by the product, despite knowing it was the victim of an asshole driver. Lol. Thank God it wasn't gm!